Fit by 60! - TomO's Pledge

bethann1156 said:
Oh yeah, I hear ya...we stay away from those buffet deals... Just stick to the fresh fruit, salads and lean meat or shrimp! How great though that you will see so much of your family and your daughter is here! I think we are bbqing at our house. Get the kids and family over....will be a nice day!
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Yeah, I think I'll be eating salad all morning. I'm not sure, but I think we're going to a place that only has "breakfast food" -- eggs, sausage, pancakes, etc. I just hope there's something for me to eat there.

Happychubette said:
Tom, how is it eating 10 calories per pound? Do you go hungry???
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Most days, I don't. But there are days here and there when the hunger pangs really get to me. I just have to keep telling myself they'll go away after 5 minutes or so, and they usually do.
 
I drink quite a bit now. That doesn't really help. I'm going to eat a lot more broccoli & cauliflower today though. That often does the trick.
 
TomO said:
Yeah, I think I'll be eating salad all morning. I'm not sure, but I think we're going to a place that only has "breakfast food" -- eggs, sausage, pancakes, etc. I just hope there's something for me to eat there.
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Oh gosh....that is a bit harder! I bet they will have fruits though and maybe some cereal.
 
TomO, I've seen quite a few of your (and Steve's) postings around here lately, but haven't felt I could add anything to the discussion without reading more of your posts first.

I will say on the buffet you have coming up, do you have one of those, "Once I've blown it, I'm just going to completely blow it" mentalities? I think most of us do. Lately, asside from avoiding all buffets possible, if in that situation I've managed to put very small portions of my favorite items on the plate (and of course any good fruits and veggies they offer) - and don't go back for more. Might not be my healthiest meal of the week, but it's not a complete blow out either. Well, that's one of my secrets anyway.

Good luck.
 
TomO said:
I was really hungry most of the day yesterday, even though I was nibbling on stuff a lot. Some days are a lot harder than others, that's for sure. Most days, I don't have a lot of hunger, but the last couple of days have been real bears to get through.

Newsweek had a not very encouraging article about obesity in this issue, basically saying that if you're genetically disposed to obesity, the odds of your not being obese are pretty bad. Apparently the biggest problem with the genetically obese is hunger pangs.

Having dealt with those over the past 2 days, that really struck an unpleasant chord with me. Obviously, I think I can finally lick this thing, or else I wouldn't be here. But it just confirms it won't be easy to keep the weight off, once I get to my goal.
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Just think, if you didn't have to attain a 500 calorie or greater calorie deficit, then you probably wouldn't be hungry if you ate at maintenance. I'm hungry all the time too so its been hard for me to lose this weight because of that deficit. But if I was eating at maintenance I probably wouldn't get those hunger pangs.

Keep in mind also that set-point theory. I found that really worked for me in the past and I'm thinking it may have something to do with my plateau. The body just gets comfortable at a certain weight and wants desperately to stay there. But once you move your weight down, your body likes that NEW LOWER set point and wants desperately to stay there too. :jump:
 
Hey Tom: very envious of your restraint at a Mexican restaurant...I can't set foot in one because of the melted cheese that sits on the table through out,,,something about me and cheese:confused: On the other hand I eat of buffets at least twice a week -- cause they always have a huge fruit selection and I'm so cheap I always go for the expensive ones like kiwi that I won't pay money for in a grocery store.

About the set point theory though, my understanding (which I freely admit could be off) is that, if a true set point exists it is initially established around the amount of bodyfat we have in late adolescence and from there can only be adjusted upwards, not downwards. Which makes sense if you think about the fact that we never lose our excess fat cells themselves (other than through surgery), just the fat inside them.
 
Whoa Tom, it just hit me when I was out for my run just now (first one in a month) that YOU ARE STRONG! Did I read that you full squatted 200 pounds?
 
Patty said:
I will say on the buffet you have coming up, do you have one of those, "Once I've blown it, I'm just going to completely blow it" mentalities? I think most of us do. Lately, asside from avoiding all buffets possible, if in that situation I've managed to put very small portions of my favorite items on the plate (and of course any good fruits and veggies they offer) - and don't go back for more. Might not be my healthiest meal of the week, but it's not a complete blow out either. Well, that's one of my secrets anyway.

Good luck.
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Thanks, Patty. The answer is yes and no. In the past, that definitely would have been my attitude. Now I'm able to exert more discipline over myself, but it's still rough. I'm going to do what you say -- load up on the veggies and fruits, and let that fill me up.

Miss Ladybug said:
Hi Tom, just stopping by to wish you a good day!
Kim
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Thanks, Kim. You too!

Blancita said:
Just think, if you didn't have to attain a 500 calorie or greater calorie deficit, then you probably wouldn't be hungry if you ate at maintenance. I'm hungry all the time too so its been hard for me to lose this weight because of that deficit. But if I was eating at maintenance I probably wouldn't get those hunger pangs.

Keep in mind also that set-point theory. I found that really worked for me in the past and I'm thinking it may have something to do with my plateau. The body just gets comfortable at a certain weight and wants desperately to stay there. But once you move your weight down, your body likes that NEW LOWER set point and wants desperately to stay there too.
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I'm sure hoping that's the case. I'd hate to think that when I get to maintenance, I'll still have to be eating what I eat now and working out an hour a day.

I think the whole set point thing makes some sense to me. It certainly has been my experience.

cym said:
Hey Tom: very envious of your restraint at a Mexican restaurant...I can't set foot in one because of the melted cheese that sits on the table through out,,,something about me and cheese On the other hand I eat of buffets at least twice a week -- cause they always have a huge fruit selection and I'm so cheap I always go for the expensive ones like kiwi that I won't pay money for in a grocery store.

About the set point theory though, my understanding (which I freely admit could be off) is that, if a true set point exists it is initially established around the amount of bodyfat we have in late adolescence and from there can only be adjusted upwards, not downwards. Which makes sense if you think about the fact that we never lose our excess fat cells themselves (other than through surgery), just the fat inside them.
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I like buffets like Soup Plantation, where you can get lots of healthy stuff. But ones like this one I dread, because they view the veggies purely as a "side dish" and don't pay much attention to their quality.

I'm not sure what you say about set point, though. My adolescent years, from 12 to 18 actually, were the ONLY times that I have been really non-fat. I weighed 165 lbs. during that time. I think part of my problem is that I have actually added new fat cells over the years, making it that much harder to lose weight.

Happychubette said:
Whoa Tom, it just hit me when I was out for my run just now (first one in a month) that YOU ARE STRONG! Did I read that you full squatted 200 pounds?
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LOL, you read right, but while it's strong for me, I'm not so sure how strong it is in general. However, like Steve pointed out, I don't think I've seen a single almost-60-year-old squatting or deadlifting at all, much less 200 lbs.
 
TomO said:
LOL, you read right, but while it's strong for me, I'm not so sure how strong it is in general. However, like Steve pointed out, I don't think I've seen a single almost-60-year-old squatting or deadlifting at all, much less 200 lbs.
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Me neither!! Whoa deja vu! I remember saying something like this, but in regards to myself...then an angry rant ensued....it was a bummer :drooling: Guess you're off the hook cause you're a guy! Cool deal!!

~HUGS~
 
I always looked at it like this

When i was 319lb, if i stood up, i was squatting 319lb ... why be so surprised that fat people must be amoung the most strongest around ?
Even pushing yourself off a chair or getting up stairs etc ... mega muscle!

My personal aim is to keep the muscle and burn the fat so i can still squat 319lb, but i dont HAVE too because im fat :)

Good on ya Tom! great work,... as always!
 
Curvie Girlie said:
Me neither!! Whoa deja vu! I remember saying something like this, but in regards to myself...then an angry rant ensued....it was a bummer :drooling: Guess you're off the hook cause you're a guy! Cool deal!!

~HUGS~
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Thanks, Valerie. IMO, that was undeserved. You ought to be bragging about lifting the weight you do -- I've only seen two women in the last 5 months do that much.

wishes said:
I always looked at it like this

When i was 319lb, if i stood up, i was squatting 319lb ... why be so surprised that fat people must be amoung the most strongest around ?
Even pushing yourself off a chair or getting up stairs etc ... mega muscle!

My personal aim is to keep the muscle and burn the fat so i can still squat 319lb, but i dont HAVE too because im fat :)

Good on ya Tom! great work,... as always!
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Thanks, Wishes. LOL, I wish it worked that way -- I'd be squatting 300 270 lbs. with no problem! I think the real difference is that when it's your body, the weight is more or less distributed all over the place, whereas in an exercise, it's all concentrated in one place. That especially affects me in the deadlift, because the tendon in one of my fingers has slipped out of the groove, so I don't have much strength there.
 
Exercise Log - 5/10/2007

SS Cardio - Elliptical, 20 min.; Step Mill 48 min.
1,070 Calories
Max. HR - 151 (89% of max)
Avg. HR - 132 (78% of max)

I don't look forward to SS Cardio, but yesterday was a heavy day on the weights, and I wanted to give my legs time to recover.
 
Okay Tom, I really want to know, "Do you ever take a day off"??? I mean oh my word, I read your diary every day and I feel exhausted afterwards, your remarkable. I mean you have the discipline like no other. Keep up the good work.
Kim
 
Miss Ladybug said:
Okay Tom, I really want to know, "Do you ever take a day off"??? I mean oh my word, I read your diary every day and I feel exhausted afterwards, your remarkable. I mean you have the discipline like no other. Keep up the good work.
Kim
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LOL, Yes, actually I take a day off at least once a week, and sometimes every four days. I'm planning to take this Saturday off, so that I can go on a long hike with my daughter. :)
 
It all depends what she's up for. If we have the time, we'll go down Torrey Pines Beach to the Glider Port in La Jolla, climp up the cliffs, and walk back - about 9 or 10 miles. If she doesn't, we'll probably just go down the beach a mile or so, go up to the top of Torrey Pines, and then back down to the beach, about 4 miles or so.
 
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