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Hey Kim its Dieters slim tea regular strength its the nutrileaf brand available at healthfood stores for about $11 or $12 its to eliminate any toxins and help if you have constipation, Joysey put us on to it and it works a treat, but I can say until you get used to it be careful cos it can be a pain in the bum he he, you may get a bit of cramping and have to run to the loo real fast and you know the saying "shower of shit" well thats all i can say:eek: :eek: :eek:

If Cryss or Mel or Moni or Myshy can add anything jump in.

Chez - I don't know about Cryss, Moni or Mel .....but I am too busy laughing to even type this post.:D
That's got to be the best laugh I've had in weeks. You absolutely crack me up!

Ladies, the tea does work a treat, just don't venture too far from home.

Last day of my refeed today. Will post more once I know how much I've lost on the program.

Treated myself to a new hairdo last week. Went from long & blonde to short & brown. HATE IT. Love shopping for clothes though.

Myshy
 
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Diet Shmiet!!

hi all...

so far i been through so much like a lot of us here, from low-calorie to south beach, to atkins, its just a b**ch cuz everytime u go on a diet everything seems all of a sudden to look more delicious and irresistible while before you couldnt care less! (life is unfair)
i gotta be dead honest...you will lose weight with every single diet but the weight will come back to haunt you if u let your gaurd down, no matter what diet you go for. Even in my research i find that to be tru. I been starving myself on many occasions but guess what....persistence did pay me a nice reward....
im currently on athat i had to try as my last ditch option...it worked like a charm and I want u all out there to try it too
its not like a miracle pill, no such thing exists, will take a some time for body to adjust to it but the fat loss is perminant....and combined with excercise is quick fat loss.
I recently went to QLD for holiday (no gym in the island!), closest thing i came to do cardio wise was strolling in the beaches and still managed to maintain my weigh and the sacle hasnt betrayed me!
some of u may be curious what the "secret" supplement i use so here is the link:


I wish u guys all the success
Lets destroy blubber together...one pound at a time ;)
 
take your crap elsewhere

netprince said:
some of u may be curious what the "secret" supplement i use so here is the link:


I wish u guys all the success
Lets destroy blubber together...one pound at a time ;)
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Take your supplement peddeling to some other forum.

We are not buying your rubbish so move along, nothing to see here!
 
dizzy one moment, light headed the next!

jude said:
Hi,
Recently I have been getting really tired behind the eyes, light headed and whoosey at times and l have periods of low energy.

I have increased my salt and started taking chrominium with my vitamins. Has anyone else experienced this or can you offer any other solutions.

Jude
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Hey Jude (sorry couldn't help myself), Welcome and congratulations on your weight loss, I can't wait until I'm over the halfway point in my weight loss journey.

Now about dizziness, to be honest, for me it comes and goes, I'll have a good couple of weeks, then one week it's all topsey turvey.

Now I don't want anyone yelling at me cos I go off the diet, but during these dizzy periods, I actually have a bit more protein in my meals, I add an extra egg white to my brekkie omlette and maybe 20grms of meat to my meals. I can't say I know what happens, but I do know I feel better and it has never impacted my loss. I'm not reccomending anyone 'cheat' so before you start typing hate mail, STOP. I'm just telling you what I have done to combat the dizziness. Another thing you can do is drink more water and ensure you are taking all your vitamins, which it appears most of you do.

The tea is leathal, only drink it if you are constipated. You will pay greatly if you are drinking it and you are feeling normal in the plumming department!

Anyway, I'm off to put me feet up and watch a DVD while the boy is interstate, love being single every now and again!

Wee story, he had a packet of caramel Tim Tams in the fridge, normally I wouldn't give a rats ass, but for some reason, oh my I looked at them EVERYTIME I opened the fridge. Anyway before he left, I told him "either take em or eat em but don't leave em" he's like, "well if I open them you might have one, but I didn't think if I opened them you would" I'm like, "the way I'm feeling today, I'd eat em and buy a replacement packet by the time you got back, so TAKE EM!" Which he did, good boy! very good boy!

see ya Shrinkin Chicks!
 
Stupid Hermesetes!!!!

Thanks Pink Virgo for finding out that info about hermesetes - thank god you did!!! :eek:
I'm about to smash the stupid bloody jar - of which I've used 3/4 of since I first started on the program - just noticed the stupid fructofibres label on the front as I was making my cup of green tea!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! :mad:
What a pain in the arse hey!!!!! So what other sweetners are we allowed to use??? In my program it only lists either hermesetes or sugarine......

Frustrated from doing it 100% only to find out that I've been held back through no fault of my own...........:mad:

Take care girls!
Will post again after my dreaded 4 week weigh in on Friday morning.
 
I know the frustration!

Not much time but ... Morning everyone - especially welcome Jude.
Tash* and Pink Virgo: Yea I know the frustration. I was using the wrong sugar substitute for a while without knowing, and then I found out and changed to stevia which I thought was OK and it wasn't, then changed again to sugarine and hermesetes - the tablet which is OK. I was so frustrated when I found out because I had been 100% too.
the bottom line is it doesn't necessarily affect the weight loss. Nothing changed when I changed what I took.
Where this program is different is that it isn't just about the weight loss. It is about what is happening to our body and it's chemistry. The wrong sugar substitute or anything else we get wrong will not necessarily make the scales any different, but it will show up on the blood test. And if it shows up there then it is affecting our system and therefore the refeed and rebalancing for our future after. So when we break, either accidentally or intentionally, that is the greatest potential of harm to us - not just the scales.
Having said that, I have been assured that at that small level it will be Ok, and you still get a good result. I just want the absolute bestest result!! So I was pretty frustrated. In the end, it will be OK though so don't panic, just make the change. And go to it. It is still early in your program and all should be fine.
Welcome back rjm! I'm in your corner!
Good on you about the tim tams Cryss.
myshy: so so fantastic. You are an inspiration!! Enjoy normality!!!
I got to go.
Lizzi
 
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Hi everyone. Yes I'm back, and I made it through the first day back on Cohens YAYYYY, and was rewarded with a huge 1.5kg drop on the scales. I know this is just fluid, but I don't care. It is just so encouraging. I am feeling great. Not at all hungry or craving anything, and I know I will get to the finish line this time.
With the sweeteners, I was told you could only use the hermesetes tablets, not the powder. Does anyone know if these are still ok. Good to know that sugarine is the other one that is ok. Thanks Lizzi.
Cryss- you did so well to dispose of those tim tams. Don't you just love it when the other half goes away for a little while and you get a bit of you time. Mine very rarely goes away, but my girls and I just love it when he does. We usually do something drastic like paint a room or something when he is gone.
Jude- Welcome. What a terrific effort losing 45 kg. Well done. Sorry I haven't experienced any dizziness, so can't be of any help there.
Have a great day everyone. Talk to you soon.
Beck
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Hey Cryss, thanks for the giggle and the advice. I hadn't thought of extra protein, but I have had an extra piece of fruit when I was desperate. It must be a blood sugar thing.
Have you thought about chrominium? I was reading your tim tam tale - don't you feel GOOOOOD!!! I must say that as a chocolateholic, even though I like the thought, I am not even interested in putting it near my mouth. Different from before when it consumed my every action. I think the chominium helps get rid of all these cravings.

Lizzi - you're right this is a learning curve. I found out that having one cherry tomatoe in my lunch every day for a week sent me bonkers. Made me go back and read the book again.

When thinking of the "could have beens" I also take into account the weight I would have put on if I had not benn doing this - imagine!!!!

Kaseysmum - thanks.

Myshy - Congratulations on the refeed. How exciting. Does it feel like you are entering a whole new world? Is this the end of your Cohen's visits?

Rjm - just think you never have to go back to where you were two days ago let alone 112k. Just get there and tell me what I have to look forward too.
 
Hi Everyone,
Just a quick post for me today. I have the ultimate in torture today.......a Cadbury promotion. Little teensy weensy bars begging for me to eat them. I honestly don't thik I will be able to do these promotions again - they are way too tempting.

Re: dizziness. I would either have my fruit, crackers or a diet coke during this time. I have quite low blood pressure normally and this diet lowers it even more.

Cryss...........champion!!. I'd probably have eaten the packet and replaced it.

Jude - Welcome & congratulations on such a big loss!

Today I am 'officially' on my own diet wise. I get my 'after' plan Friday.

I will weigh in tommorow and let you know what I have lost altogether.

Nat - Thanks for the coffee yesterday, I hope I haven't jinxed you. BTW...you are better looking than Jessica Rowe with your new hair colour. It looks FANTASTIC!

Thats it........keep up the good work ladies,

Myshy
 
Hello ladies and welcome Jude.

I tried the magic tea last night, that everyone raves about and guess what - this morning I was down another 2kg! I am super impressed and will make it a nightly ritual from now on.

Myshy Good luck out there in the post-Cohen's world. I can't wait to join you, but at the same time, I know I'll be scared when I get there!

RJM Congrats on jumping back on to the wagon. This time you'll get across that finishing line, for sure.

Chryss Your sense of humor and self control are amazing - good on you.

I saw a cooking show last night (I know - I'm a masochist!) and the chef did something really interesting: dressed mango and strawberries in balsamic vinegar. Now I know we can't have strawberries but mango is definitely on the list so I'm going to try it. He only used a little bit and said it really brings out the natural flavour of the mango... I'll try it out and let you all know if it is any good or not.

Am taking off tomorrow on an extended long weekend but pre-packing all my meals tonight so I'll be good and not make any slips along the way. Hope you all have a great long weekend and remember to stay strong and focussed!
 
Good morning all! Hope everyone is having a great day!
First up - Big CONGRATS to Myshy! You must be absolutely stoked! Good for you!
Moneypenny you are just firing along! Your loss is huge in such a short time! Well done!
Diamonds how did your long weekend down south go?

Well, it's Day 1 of Week 3 for me, and I'm 6.2kg down, so pretty happy with that! Every day is a day closer to goal!
Yesterday I had a clinic appointment, and my consultant suggested not having cheese for lunch if i had already had yoghurt for breakfast, i didn't think at the time to ask why (i'm a bit of a loosehead at times!) but at least i know now - every bit helps!

Hope you all have a great 100% on the wagon day!

Lou
 
Hey hey

Hi everyone,

Glad I was able to bring the sugar thing to the attention of those people who were using it. I understand what LIZZI said about it not necessarily affected the scales, more so our blood tests. My 4-week blood test came back as 'boarderline deviate' so the sugar is most likely the culprit.TASH - I bought NutriSweet, which is used in most diet soft drinks so I'm pretty sure this one is ok to use ( besides it's only made outta the chemicals and no sugar/fruit substance is used ).

CRYSS - Well done on avoiding those tim tams! I must say, yesterday at work all I could think about was food... I kept having bizzaro cravings! For pizza, hot cross buns but mainly for chocolate! It was strange because I usually don't get real cravings ( by real I mean other than emotional 'I want just cos' cravings )... but then I realised I'd forgotten to take my multi-vit and chromium in the morning. So I proved to myself that the tabs really do work!

PRINCESSLOU - What a fantastic loss in 3 weeks!! You must be so proud of yourself. :) You're getting closer to that goal each day. Well done.

CHRYSTELLE -You asked how much I had lost in 6 weeks. I lost 8.1kg. A little less than what I'd hoped for but still great nonetheless ( especially since I'd been having sugar I shouldn't have been, stupidly using pre-cooked meat now and then, and perhaps eating cheese too many times a week :mad: ).

JUDE - Welcome to the forum. What an amazing loss you've accomplished! Yet another inspiring story to add to all of the others on here! ;)

So about this TEA... Oh... my.... God! Well, it certainly works and I think I needed it to work ( if you know what I mean ;) ) ... but was I supposed to feel so awful?! I woke up the morning after taking the tea with the worst cramps... in my drowsiness I thought I'd gotten my period... then realised it was the tea. I honestly had bad cramps, nausea and felt week for two hours... in between running to the loo several times. Am I just one of the really unlucky ones who the tea affects badly? Or is this a normal thing? Having said though, that I was at death's door for a whole two hours, once my body had finally rid itself of the last of the waste, I was immediately feeling better. It was strange. I went from wanting someone to bop me over the head cos I felt so horrible, to feeling 100% again in a matter of moments. WERID people, WEIRD! :confused:

Does anyone here know someone on SureSlim? There's a girl at work on it and we've been comparing notes... it's so strange how similar yet different the programs are. One thing they can have once a day instead of a couple of crispbreads is stuff called "Mountain Bread". Apprently it's somewhat like kebab bread only paper thin.. and SureSlim recommend having that over crispbreads because it's less processed. It looks so yummy when she has her salad and chesse wrapped up in a piece! I'm going to look into the nutritional value and ingredients of the mountain bread vs. the crispbreads we can eat. I'm interested to know the difference.

Keep up the great work guys ( sorry I dribble on so much! ) :D

Take Care xox
 
Hi PinkVirgo,
I read on a forum we used to use that Sure Slim was started by someone who had previously completed Cohens. Don't know if this is true, but could explain why they are similar. Why don't you call your clinic and ask them about the mountain bread. Might be a nice change.
Talk to you soon.
Beck
 
moneypenny said:
I saw a cooking show last night (I know - I'm a masochist!) and the chef did something really interesting: dressed mango and strawberries in balsamic vinegar. Now I know we can't have strawberries but mango is definitely on the list so I'm going to try it. He only used a little bit and said it really brings out the natural flavour of the mango... I'll try it out and let you all know if it is any good or not.
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hey this is really interesting, in my pre Cohen days, my absolute FAVORITE dessrt was fresh strawberries, brown sugar, balsamic and King Island Cream!! STUNNING .. needless to say, it was the KIC that assisted in getting me to the size I was, so maybe it wasn't that stunning!
 
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PinkVirgo said:
So about this Tea ... Oh... my.... God! Well, it certainly works and I think I needed it to work ( if you know what I mean ;) ) ... but was I supposed to feel so awful?! I woke up the morning after taking the tea with the worst cramps... in my drowsiness I thought I'd gotten my period... then realised it was the tea. I honestly had bad cramps, nausea and felt week for two hours... in between running to the loo several times. Am I just one of the really unlucky ones who the tea affects badly? Or is this a normal thing? Having said though, that I was at death's door for a whole two hours, once my body had finally rid itself of the last of the waste, I was immediately feeling better. It was strange. I went from wanting someone to bop me over the head cos I felt so horrible, to feeling 100% again in a matter of moments. WERID people, WEIRD! :confused:
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That, my dear was normal:eek: , it's exactly what we who have used it find really hard to explain.

Horrid sensation, but successful outcome!
 
Hi Everyone,

Everyone is going so well. Very encouraging!

Pink Virgo - Very interesting about the mountain bread, I used to make pizza on it (very yummy).
Please keep us all posted.

I think I will have to buy the dieters tea tomorrow, and make sure I don't have any plans for Saturday morning : )

I must say it is getting difficult seeing all the hot cross buns & Easter eggs in shops!

Those of us who have a long weekend enjoy.

K
 
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Hi Gals and welcome to our newbies!

I felt it necessary to give you some extra information on the tea.
Firstly, I am not saying not to use it. I know things "move" rather slowly on this diet and it seems the tea is just the thing to get things moving again.

What you need to know is that the tea is basically a laxative. Laxatives whether in tea form, liquid or tablet are ok to use occaisionally but they are not recommended for regular use. Using laxatives regularly can make your bowel lazy. Which then means you need to use more or stronger laxatives- its a vicious cycle. You can become dependent on them.

On saying that, I understand the need for something like this during the program and took laxatives a few times myself to ah... get the ball rolling. :p It helps to keep in mind that we are not eating much bulk forming food, and in fact not large volumes of food so it follows that we may not "go" as often.
All I am saying is, those of you using the tea please think twice about taking it every night. Consider just taking it when you need it. ;)

Nat x
 
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Hi ladies,

RJM - My consultant told me that one of the founders of SureSlim completed the Cohen's program, so you're absolutely right in saying that's why they'd be similar. It's almost identical in that they have to leave 5 hrs in between meals and not eat after 9pm. They have three meal 'catergories' and three meal 'options' within each catergory - works the same as our three meals, they can only have one option from each of their 'catergories'. However some get more variety of foods eg. carrotts. They can have any cheese they like too, and two eggs in any one serving. They also have to have this combination of seeds (linsead meal, pepitas, sesame seeds etc) each day to get things 'moving' in the bowel area. Apart from that it's much of a muchness really.

NAT - I wasn't even yet a regular user of the tea... but you're spot on with the 'use in moderation' theory. That's exactly what I planned to do from now on. I'm only going to use it if I feel that I need the help, and only when I have a day off the next day!! :p

Everyone else - keep up the great work!!

I'm going to post a little about the Mountain Bread I mentioned earlier after this post (I don't think it will all fit on one post!)

Take care xoxo
 
Ok... here's the Mountain Bread stuff

Ok, so about this Mountain Bread. Please don't think that I'm trying to push it onto any of you, or that I'm 'recommending' you to use it. It's just that I bought some today and found the comparisons interesting. So I have decided that I'm going to replace some crispbreads with it and see how I go (scale wise that is). I just thought I'd share what I've learnt with you. Any feedback, good or bad, is welcome :) For any of you who are interested, below is a comparison table, of sorts.

Paradise Lights ( White crispbread ) - average serving 27g (approx 4 c/breads)​

Ingredients: Wheat Flour, Wheat Fibre, Malt Extract (from Barley), Maize Starch, Butter (Milk, Salt), Salt, Yeast, Glucose Syrup, Raising Agents (500, 450, 503)

Per serve
ENERGY - 423kj
PROTEIN - 3.0g
FAT - Total 0.7g
CARBS - Total 19.7g (Sugars 0.6g)
DIETRY FIBRE - 1.6g
CHOLESTEROL - <1.0mg
SODIUM - 165mg

Mountain Bread ( Wholewheat ) - average serving 25g (1 sheet of bread)​

Ingredients: Wholewheat Flour, Filtered Water, Salt. Contains Wheat (Yeast free, No Sour Dough, No Fat added, No Oil added, No Sugar added, No Milk Product, No Eggs)

Per Serve
ENERGY - 300kj
PROTEIN - 2.8g
FAT - Total 0.4g
CARBS - Total 13g (Sugars 0.5g)
DIETRY FIBRE - 1.1g
CHOLESTEROL - Nil
SODIUM - 66mg

I've bolded the ingredients which occur in both products. From the nutritional panel it seems to me that the Mountain Bread is better than the Crispbreads, plus it doesn't appear to have so many additives. I also realise that the average serve for both items have to be halved (as we can only have two Crispbreads at any one time, therefore we could only have a half a slice of Mountain Bread at any one time).

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this. Perhaps a few of us could take the idea to our respective consultants and see what they say? (Considering that they all seem to have differing opinions on some subjects - for instance my consultant told me there is NO WAY I could ever order a re-feed early - yet some people have been able to).

I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Cheers :cool:
 
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