Breast Implants

i've defined it at least two times in this thread!!! i'm not gonna do it again.

and, it seems as though you all believe that your own personal choice in the way you live your life and the way you feel about yourselves should also dictate the way that others "should" live their lives.

no one here has any right to say that they are more secure than the woman that i defined just because she has chosen to have a surgery. in fact, from your extreme responses against implants, it makes me question whether you are less secure.

if you were actually secure, you wouldn't care if a mature, and "secure" adult made the conscious choice to have surgery. it's unreal that some of you actually think that a woman who is forced to buy customized bras and can't shop for clothes at normal stores because she was born with huge breasts should just suck it up and "be happy" with herself. a woman who feels ostrasized from society should just say "f@ck it, i'm me and that's that." well, folks, that's not the way the world works. you can strive to be happy and as part of that, you can make smart, educated and conscious decisions that you think will improve your life. that's security - self awareness and the ability to make that choice from that standpoint. being in love with yourself to the point of perfection is not security -- that's actually a false sense of self.
 
we never said anything about being in love with yourself to the point of perfection.

more like being content with what you have and not giving mind to the "imperfections"

seems like you misinterpret also :]

that's security - self awareness and the ability to make that choice from that standpoint
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how is one not aware of oneself?
i am aware of myself and i can make a descision from a standpoint
how does that make me secure?
 
proteinboy, you asked:

"how is one not aware of oneself?"

i explained that already, you know, when i defined security for you...an insecure person is bla bla...(i know i write to damn much, but could you read it? :)) it's the ability to understand that why you are doing what you are doing and to make an informed decision based on that. not everyone can do this. for example, the woman who wants a breast reduction because she'd like to buy bras from normal, common stores instead of having to always custom order her bras and pay three times the money. the woman who can't fit into clothes from target or the gap or anywhere because her breasts are so big that she ends up wearing big baggy sweatshirts all the time because otherwise, her breasts are just too big and obvious to her and everyone else. how can you say that she should suck it up and learn to live with it? it's not your life. if she is aware of the reasons that she is having the reduction and not deluding herself, then who the heck is anyone else to judge?

then you asked:

"i am aware of myself and i can make a descision from a standpoint
how does that make me secure?"

same as above. many people aren't making decisions from a healthy standpoint when they have surgery and many are. some are doing it to get male attention, some to get external validation from others, some because they were abused as a child and have somehow always felt inadequate and think that implants will make them happier when really, that person may be dealing with a set of emotions that are related to the abuse they experienced and they think that external praise will make them happy when that's not actually the cause etc., etc....

none of these are even close the example that i laid out.

if you think that the woman i described isn't entitled to have a breast reduction, free of judgment from you or society, then i do think that you are expecting for people to be in love with themselves to the point of perfection.

again, it all comes down to who and why anyone has the right to judge. you have your set of values. what in the heck does that have to with the person that i described?
 
Yikes! I never said anything against breast reduction. I said "Normal, Healthy" bodies shouldn't be messed around with. If huge breasts are getting in the way then by all means, cut them off. I myself cannot ever imagine having anything larger than a C. A B would be too big for me.

Is there something wrong with being happy having small breasts? Maybe it makes the women who spent all that money on boob jobs insecure to see someone like me who hopes not to have big ones. Ever thought about that?

I am in no way trying to get anyone to change their moral values. I'm just trying to present my opinion in an understandable manner. Just because I see breast implants as something that only women with deformed or removed breasts should get, it doesn't make me insecure with myself. Not by any means. If I had to get my breasts removed due to cancer, I probably would get reconstructive surgery. But there's nothing wrong with me now. I just have small breasts. It doesn't make me less of a person or less of a woman.
 
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my example for the past three pages have been about a woman having a breast reduction. not implants.

small breasts? of course there's nothing wrong with it. there's nothing wrong with big or small breasts in my opinion (another thing that i previously stated). on the same token, why judge someone with implants just because they have implants?

and, i appreciate that you are happy with yourself. i'm not sure if you realize this, but you say that in almost every one of your posts and i've acknowledged it on numerous occasions. okay, you have small breasts. that's fine but this thread isn't about you. the only reason that i said what i said in my previous post is that you haven't really explained why you feel the way you do other than to say that "you have small breasts and that you are happy" and that everyone came out the way they did "for a reason" and that this is just your opinion.

that's really not addressing any issues and that's what i'm probing for. what is the reason that you think people came out the way they did and why is this valuable? why is it an issue to change our genetics? why do you think that breast implants are something that only women with deformed or removed breasts should get? what is the reason? why is it okay for someone with large breasts to have surgery?

throughout this entire thread i haven't even said my own opinion about breast implants. i've just been trying to understand what you all are saying and it's hard to get a picture with blanket statements and without any real explanations/analysis.
 
Well. I've been a "lucky to be an A cup" most of my life. After three kids I'm half of that. I am going to see a plastic surgeon next year for breast implants and I can't wait.

Do I feel bad about my body? Besides the breasts, I love the fact that I am where I am at after all the stresses my body has gone through. I look better than most of my friends that haven't had kids. My problem is with the fact that I can't even fill a bra that is the smallest size out there.

Do I care what others will think? Not one bit. This is my body and I will be proud as a peacock when I actually get to wear something other than a training bra.... :11doh:
 
spicypumpkin said:
Is there something wrong with being happy having small breasts? Maybe it makes the women who spent all that money on boob jobs insecure to see someone like me who hopes not to have big ones. Ever thought about that?
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Hi Spicy, you appear to be missing the point, I don't think anyone here has said that there's anything wrong with small breasts. It's just that there's also nothing wrong with wanting them bigger or fuller either. It's simply your choice.

And why do you assume that breast enlargements have to have anything to do with insecurity? I think you might just be reflecting a bit of yourself into your opinions of these women.

And finally; to save this being batted about for the next week why not try and agree on something? I suggest we just say that it's every persons right to have surgery if they wish, however, cosmetic surgery ads should carry a helpline number for people who have issues relating to self esteem?
 
Proteinboy said:
believe it, God created man in his image and molded each of us perfectly in his inspection.
He is our potter!
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I can't argue against someones religeous beliefs, basically as a Christian you can't have cosmetic surgery, simple as that. Although you also can't have tattoo's either

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD" (Leviticus 19:28 KJV).
 
CCR said:
1) Yes you have buddy, they just haven't told you :). Maybe they're afraid that you'll get all judgemental on them.
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It's certainly possible, but would be an assumption.

CCR said:
3) It may well be natural but I bet you wouldn't be too happy if your ***** 'naturally' got 50% smaller. Until you've experienced what these women have then you shouldn't judge
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Assuming the woman does already have a family (husband + kids), what kind of an advantage would she have, getting the implants, over herself if she wouldn't?

Nicolasd said:
Do you say the same thing to people with acne, shortsightedness or reproductive problems? People who drive cars instead of walking? How do you distinguish which natural things we fight with our technology, and which we should just accept as “natural”?
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acne - partially genetic + can be influenced by habbits
shortsightedness = mostly generic
repoductive problems = could be genetic or as a result of other health problems

So you can't really compare them to breast implants, because they are actual health problems, influenced in at least some way by genetics, whereas this...is a completely different thing, it isn't a health problem and as for genes, well if they have a family, that's clearly not going to be a problem either. If they don't then the process of natural section is a harsh mistress.

deschain said:
If every time your wife gave birth, you lost an inch of your hoohoo - and they had a cosmetic surgery to give you those inches back -it would probably be the most common surgery on the planet. I highly doubt men would say, "oh well, that's nature".
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Lol, that really is the oddest analogy, using an example which isn't true, so it's not really possibly to comprehend what would happen.
 
Starcraftmazter said:
Lol, that really is the oddest analogy, using an example which isn't true, so it's not really possibly to comprehend what would happen.
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It's just the same analogy I used as well, the purpose is to;

1) Get people away from the idea that breast enlargements are always performed to 'improve' and are more commonly used to 'restore' a previous shape

2) Get the men here to relate to how a women may feel if her breasts shrink or sag. It's too easy to make judgements on issues that will never affect you so your 'mini me' :) is the closest thing we have to compare
 
spicypumpkin said:
Interesting analogy, but a man's, you know, serves a functional purpose. It can only be so small before it is no longer, well, functional. Small breasts produce just as much milk as big ones. Having implants won't make the breasts work better. You can't compare apples to oranges.
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Yep, compare Apples and Oranges is what an analogy is, that's the point, if you were to compare apples to apples then what would be the point?

The idea of an analogy is to add a different perspective to an arguement or to increase your depth of perception within the original situation by looking at an entirely different senario.

a·nal·o·gy (ə-nāl'ə-jē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. a·nal·o·gies

1)Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2)A comparison based on such similarity. See Synonyms at likeness.
 
philsaigon said:
:confused: What does this mean? :confused:
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I'll see if I can rephrase it.

Under the assumption, that that primary use of a female's breasts is to:
1. Attract a male
2. Breastfeed her children

Providing she has successfully done both of them, what is the point of getting breast implants? What advantage would a woman have in getting them, over herself if she didn't get them?

I hope that makes more sense, I really do.

CCR said:
1) Get people away from the idea that breast enlargements are always performed to 'improve' and are more commonly used to 'restore' a previous shape
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Yes but....everything going with age - everything, hair, bones, muscles, efficiency of the brain, sight - actually all senses, skin, etc.

This is just another one of those which 'goes' with age, and there's nothing wrong with it, nor should there be a need to 'restore' it. Ageing is going to happen regardless, and if you have lived your life well, and have accomplished everything there is to accomplish, then really - what is the point?

CCR said:
2) Get the men here to relate to how a women may feel if her breasts shrink or sag. It's too easy to make judgements on issues that will never affect you so your 'mini me' :) is the closest thing we have to compare
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And yet, it still feels very foreign, because it's not an occurrence in our world.
 
Starcraftmazter said:
I'll see if I can rephrase it.

Under the assumption, that that primary use of a female's breasts is to:
1. Attract a male
2. Breastfeed her children

Providing she has successfully done both of them, what is the point of getting breast implants? What advantage would a woman have in getting them, over herself if she didn't get them?
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I'm not married and I'm not a woman, but I would think that she might want it for herself and her husband might be a 'breast man' so to speak, so she might do it for him as well, no?
 
philsaigon said:
I'm not married and I'm not a woman, but I would think that she might want it for herself and her husband might be a 'breast man' so to speak, so she might do it for him as well, no?
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Well, I actually think it's pretty bad to get them done for your husband's sake
 
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I disagree. I mean I'm not saying ding it 100% for the husband, but if the husband is turned-on by 'bigger' breasts and she's into the idea as well, then it's win-win.
 
stupid, why? he said nothing about why the girl wanted it. If the girl wants it and the husband gets turned on by bigger breasts, then why not? aslong as the girl isen't just doing it for the sake of her husband..
 
I am a woman. I am married. I have had 2 children, both of which I breastfed for 1 year each - and plan on having another baby, and breastfeeding that one as well.

My husband is not a breast man - he's a butt man, he'd prefer thongs to bras anyday. Hell, even online, he occasionally looks at the "thong of the day" pics - not front shots of big-boobs, which would be somewhat of a subtle indication that he's really more attracted to big boobies then he lets on to me. (no, I don't have a big problem with him looking at pics)

That being said, I fully plan on having my breasts 'repaired' when I am done having children. Whether that be in the form of a lift, implants, or both - depends on the amount and extent of the damage done by then.

I also may end up having excess skin removed from my abdomen, also depending on extent of the damage done.

Neither of these will occur until I have finished losing all the weight from the last baby, and I get in as good of shape as I can as I'm not going to have a surgery to do something that I can do myself.
 
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