Struggling? I can help.
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Short question: have you ever heard of leptin, insulin and adreneline among other pertinent hormones that regulate metabolism? This is a YES or NO, and if YES, what is your understanding of how these interact with metabolism?
You never answered how I could be perfect at counting calories and calorie deficits for an entire year but all of a suddent the last 5 months I am unable to do this right and now I'm lying to myself. Please clarify this.
Yes, I know all about that scam. I have a complete uderstanding about metabolism and the effect of hormones.
You are lying to yourself. I am not here to teach you biology. Find one sigle source that shows that there is anything in the body that can effect metabolic rate more than 2%. You are in denial. The most your metabolism can be off is by + or - 2%. I know you would like to believe otherwise.
You are trying to send me off on a wild goose chase so that you can debate metabolism. I shut you down be pointing out the 2% factor and challenging you to show credilble evidence form a credible source that metabolic rates among individula od identical heights, weights and genders can vary more than 2%.
Your problem is NOT metabolic. Slow metabolism is a myth. It happens but only by 2%. There is no proof anywhere that shows we are in an obesity epidemic due to slow metabolic rates. It is a lie perpetrated by the weightloss industry. It is a conveient excuse for you and other fat people.
Just seems like everybody could be spending their time more productively.
Just sayin'.
Can you guys at least point out to me who is who in this picture of Steve's?
Thanks.
Oh... you've got me there.
Good one.
I'm sorry that we aren't following Corn's Rules To Live By On The Internet. If you could please post them so we know how to conduct ourselves in a manner that is representative to how you want, that would be greatly appreciated.
In the meantime, since I'm assuming you're what, 7 or 8 years old now.... here are some blocks you can play with little guy.
Oh, I'm sorry, that came out wrong. I don't mean to offend.
Here's something a bit more your pace. Have at it!!!
Hahaha, exactly....
God forbid we have some entertainment around here. If this isn't entertaining to you, don't participate.
But I'm pretty sure coming in here and saying, you guys are being stupid for bickering isn't any better.
You care. You prove that by the fact that you respond.
As to TomO, fat men have different methods of denial but they are as effect as the female variety. When men get really really fat they use the female form of denial. I thinkit hase to do with estrogen and gynomastia.
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ChuckRoast:
I see you have nothing to say about my previous critique about your supposed methods of analyzing people. Could it be that you have nothing to say because you know that I am right? I notice you only respond to things you "think" you have the answer for, afraid of being proved wrong? Were you hoping to forget it and move on with your ridiculous "help"? And just so you know I can, if need be, back up what I have said in that post with academic peer reviewed journal articles and research. Before you continue this course of "seeing into people and claiming to know about them" I suggest you stop using techniques that help no one and sometimes does a lot more hard than you can imagine.
I see you have nothing to say about my previous critique about your supposed methods of analyzing people. Could it be that you have nothing to say because you know that I am right? I notice you only respond to things you "think" you have the answer for, afraid of being proved wrong? Were you hoping to forget it and move on with your ridiculous "help"? And just so you know I can, if need be, back up what I have said in that post with academic peer reviewed journal articles and research. Before you continue this course of "seeing into people and claiming to know about them" I suggest you stop using techniques that help no one and sometimes does a lot more hard than you can imagine.
If it's that entertaining to you, more power to you. It just looked like some other people were getting insulted, angry, and frustrated more than getting the help that was promised... yet they kept coming back, apparently for non-entertainment reasons. Just seemed kinda odd.
That picture of the Chinese girl is awesome though, gotta love it.
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I missed your post. What page is it on?
My method is for helping figure out why fat people will not stop pigging out.
It's pretty simple really. I just ask them way they won't stop pigging out. Then I trap them in their lies.
Here is a good example. I will ask.
How important is losing weight to you on a scale of one to ten? The I proceed form there. They will say 8 or 10.
The I ask what is it intheir lives that is stringer than an 8 or a 10 that is stopping them. At that point the bullshit starts. Then I shoot down all their bullshit using logic and show them how to stop the bull shit.
As to the diet gurus and the charlatans/doctors they have FAILED! I have not failed. I am right and they are wrong. I have a 70% success rate. They have a 2% - 5% sucess rate. They charge money. I do it for free.
Oh, I agree. It's tough to tell real emotion over the net... but if you're getting upset with things like this.... just take a step away.
Me.... I'm just having fun.
I hate it, it's a good one.
Prove it... show us examples of how you've got a 70 percent success rate..
I pulled out the moderator card on that one -it doesnt benefit the board to have it there - and I opted to censor
One thread of this is really enough - if you dont mind I will make one more observation though. Many of Chuck's posts remind me of the way I used to be, which is pretty funny in itself.
A little over a year ago I was asked to help with a weight loss class at church. I jumped in with both feet trying to help people, and it ended up being all middle aged women. It didn't take long for me to realize that most people there didn't have a clue, had no idea about even the most basic subjects. Well, I busted my ass for those people. I even started working directly with the nutritional director at a local hospital, and when things got complicated due to medical issues or whatever, I was a free proxy between the director and the class, and basically helping them get HIGHLY customized programs and diets at no cost at all.
After, I don't know, maybe 3 months, I realized something: they weren't really losing anything. Maybe a few pounds of water weight at first, but then that stopped quickly. But, the shocking part was that they were still doing the stupid stuff that they knew to not do. One amazingly fat chick admitted that she was still eating ice cream and having a coke... FOR BREAKFAST. Another few weeks passed, and I got angrier, and angrier. I was wasting my time. With the state of mind they had, they were simply not going to change.
Well, here's where the mistake came in: I took my anger out on them. On middle aged women, at church. I became rather abusive, and insulting. I thought this would put a fire in their hearts to be willing to take some of the suffering they thought they were going to have to endure. I was treating them as if they were physically capable male friends of mine who were my age, which would have worked and might be appropriate for a group like that who just wasted 3-4 months of my time. Middle aged church ladies though... not so much. It showed too. They didn't even really want to try anymore. It totally turned them off and the class turned into a gossip session.
I finally just gave up. The lesson I learned was that weight loss is very simple... yet the psychology of a woman trying to lose weight is incredibly complex... and scores different than a capable man's. I don't even want to attempt to learn how to deal with it, somebody else can do that.
So if anything is funny to me, it's that somebody is coming in here, making the same mistakes that I did, basically telling a group of people who are mostly middle aged women to "man-up" in a verbally abusive kind of way, then considering themselves an expert... which is obviously far from the truth.
As for the people who are getting bent out of shape... all I can say is that you probably ought to do exactly what he said and just ignore him, he'll actually understand why you did one of these days.
A little over a year ago I was asked to help with a weight loss class at church. I jumped in with both feet trying to help people, and it ended up being all middle aged women. It didn't take long for me to realize that most people there didn't have a clue, had no idea about even the most basic subjects. Well, I busted my ass for those people. I even started working directly with the nutritional director at a local hospital, and when things got complicated due to medical issues or whatever, I was a free proxy between the director and the class, and basically helping them get HIGHLY customized programs and diets at no cost at all.
After, I don't know, maybe 3 months, I realized something: they weren't really losing anything. Maybe a few pounds of water weight at first, but then that stopped quickly. But, the shocking part was that they were still doing the stupid stuff that they knew to not do. One amazingly fat chick admitted that she was still eating ice cream and having a coke... FOR BREAKFAST. Another few weeks passed, and I got angrier, and angrier. I was wasting my time. With the state of mind they had, they were simply not going to change.
Well, here's where the mistake came in: I took my anger out on them. On middle aged women, at church. I became rather abusive, and insulting. I thought this would put a fire in their hearts to be willing to take some of the suffering they thought they were going to have to endure. I was treating them as if they were physically capable male friends of mine who were my age, which would have worked and might be appropriate for a group like that who just wasted 3-4 months of my time. Middle aged church ladies though... not so much. It showed too. They didn't even really want to try anymore. It totally turned them off and the class turned into a gossip session.
I finally just gave up. The lesson I learned was that weight loss is very simple... yet the psychology of a woman trying to lose weight is incredibly complex... and scores different than a capable man's. I don't even want to attempt to learn how to deal with it, somebody else can do that.
So if anything is funny to me, it's that somebody is coming in here, making the same mistakes that I did, basically telling a group of people who are mostly middle aged women to "man-up" in a verbally abusive kind of way, then considering themselves an expert... which is obviously far from the truth.
As for the people who are getting bent out of shape... all I can say is that you probably ought to do exactly what he said and just ignore him, he'll actually understand why you did one of these days.
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I didn't want to leave this without a response for those who are reading this, NOT AT ALL FOR YOUR BENEFIT. You are very wrong with your theory. Are you a scientist? Are you conducting studies? You dont know squat about it, as is patently obvious with your overly simplistic view of the workings of the human body and the hormones that regulate appetite and fat burning. Do some homework before you respond. This is it for me. Peeps, dont listen to his bull shit as he obviously knows very little. Go back to your hole, troll!
I have not formally tracked it but that is the rate of the people I counsel. I did it at the local Y where I was a fitness instructor. I have the files but they are confidential. Let is suffice to say. As I got better at cutting through their bullshit the resualt improved. It was equal among men and women. I had mostly women in the program. I ended up being more of a therapist than a guy who stood next to them and counted reps.
I educated them so that they would not have to rely on me for anything. A few got pissed and left but some of them came back. It is tough for a person to admit they are doing bad things to their health and to their kid's health.
I can motivate almost anyone to lose weight but that is the easy part. Life style change is the tough part and that requires making them get real. That is not always easy or pleasant.
How convenient.
last time balldez came back - the alter ego detector trapped it - sure it's easy to mask ip addresses - an 10 year old could do it... and there's no real way to know... but his email address - while incredibly juvenille - is not one that's being used by the other accounts...
the writing style is the same, as is the pomposity, and the boy crush he's got on steve (steve is really hot, i'll admit to a little crush on him myself
so your method of motivation is to bully them...
How did you come by your position at the Y and did they support your methods? were they aware of how you operate? are you still doing it?
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