true true i just thought it was on the living channel and i was watching lol and i tried some of it and it really hurt my knees so thanks wishes i know it's a crock of !@#% i wont bother lol I went for my walk today and i feel so good after it. hopefully i will keep it up i am going to go swimming also this week go and brave the togs lol i brought them 5kgs ago so hopefully they will fit nicer i havent put them on again i only brought them cause they were on sale and i thought i might like swimming last time it was good but i swallowed too much water :O