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Hi everyone,
Great words of advice 8-2much!.
I am down another 1kg this morning which makes 2.5kgs in 2 days. I love the fact that in the beginning this diet is so fast and so encouraging which always helps to get me over the first few weeks. I am hoping I will be back into the 80s by the end of this week and then there is no way I am going to saboutage myself again. I intend to keep going down and down.
I usually say at this stage that I know it is only fluid I am losing, but I was thinking about that the other day, and if I was gaining weight this quickly (which I often have in the past) I wouldn't be saying "it's ok, it's only fluid". No I would be telling myself it was fat, so I'm going to tell myself that from now on I'm losing FAT, and every little bit that comes off is another bit of fat leaving my body for ever more.
Sorry to ramble. Have a great day everyone. Talk to you all soon.
 
Jools 13KG!!!! WOWeee! thats fantastic!

Living it hang in there chick! you will get to a set of scales that work, and your jaw will drop!
I have always carried my weight well, and people are usually shocked when they find out what my weight is (they usually guess about 10kg lighter).

People are really starting to notice my loss (i think it's cause iv'e reached the 10kg mark).
I work with alot of guys and they have all come up to me and commented on my weight loss. they are great, follow me on my journey..... "have you reached 10kg loss yet??" and support me and my will power. (Yes there are gentlemen in the Motor Industry!)
My best friend came and visited me this morning before work and she was amazed.."Look at you, your pants are falling off!". (the only reason they are falling off is cause i don't have a tummy to attach them to any more!) My legs and hips haven't really changed in size much but i know they will so i'm not stressing.
Every one has problem areas, for some women it's their Bellies, and for others its Bottoms, and others it's Hips & Thighs. I'm a Bum, Hips & Thighs kinda girl, so when i started to get a belly i freaked out (iv'e ridden horses all my life and no matter what weight iv'e been i've always had a pancake flat tummy) and knew it really was time to do something about my weight.

Have a wonderful day every one, and fingers crossed we get lots of rain in brisbane!
 
Brieziel you must have a similar body shape to me. It's good in one way, because as you said, for the most part the belly stays flat, and because of that, I find too that people underestimate what I weigh, and its true, if I have a tummy or back fat of any description, it definetely means I've gone too far. But, it also lulls me into a false sense of security. So I'm definitely a thighs hips and bum girl. Do you find it hard to get clothes to fit, because they are too loose in the waist, and too small around the legs etc? (kind of like the pants you were talking about?) Usually I'm a size smaller on the top than the bottom. At least by the end of this we will be much better proportioned.
rjm glad its working for you. You're on the way to goal no. 1.
 
Hi everyone,
Brieziel & L-Jay, you guys are so lucky. I have never had a flat stomach Even when I was anorexic and weighed 6 stone (not sure what that is in kilos as we weighed in stone back then) my stomach was still pudgy (maybe that was in my mind though, and could possibly be the reason I ended up anorexic). Anyway, I would kill for a flat stomach.
People also underestimate what I used to weigh. I think because I put on weight very evenly over my whole body and must have carried it quite well, but it does loll you into a false sense of " I'm not really that fat", or "I don't look that bad". It took a photo to snap me out of that and realise that yes, I did look that bad.
dreamer, I'm also using my old program as I can't afford a new program at the moment, but I hope to get a new program at some stage. I have my previous refeed and have done this twice. I did it when I originally "finished", and again 3 months ago. The first time I did it, I was 15kg off my goal weight (had lost 35kg) and it stabilised my weight loss and for the next 3 months I kept the weight off without any problems, then I decided to do the program again to lose the last 15 kgs. I stuck to it for 1 week, changed my mind and decided it was too hard so I went off it and then I started to regain weight. Within about 2 and a half months I had regained 14kgs, so I went back on the program again for 6 weeks, lost 10.5 kgs, completed refeed again but then started to regain weight again, and in 3 months I have gained back another 15.5kgs. When I started this again (2 days ago) I weighed 19kgs more than when I finished the first time. This is why I think that the program is not working properly for me any more. I am losing weight even better than the first time I completed the program, but I don't seem to have the same ability to keep it off at the end. I am going to stick to this one until I can afford the new program and then switch over to that. I have enquired and they do have a payment plan, so I just have to come up with the deposit and I'll be back in business.
Anyway, to answer your questions, No the new paradise lights are not allowed someone previously posted this:
NEW CRISBREADS
Yes that’s right Dr Cohen has just finished testing some crispbreads and soft drink so you can have a little more variety. Please note that Paradise Lites have bought out a new range of crispbreads in replace of the ones you currently use and they are not allowed on the program. We have found that clients have been having trouble getting them in supermarkets, so if your supermarket still has stock of the old ones and you like them stock up on them.
Here are the new ones allowed…………..
Nabisco Premium 98% Fat free
Nabisco Premium Crispbread
Arnott’s Salada Light 97% Fat free
Arnott's Salada Original
PLEASE NOTE AT THIS STAGE THE WHOLEMEAL AND FIBRE IN THE ABOVE RANGE ARE NOT ALLOWED AND ALSO THAT 1 SANDWHICH SIZE CRISPBREAD = 2 CRISPBREADS
NEW SOFT DRINK
Yep new soft drink as well how exciting LOL, only people on the program will understand the excitement of new allowed food LOL LOL
P & N: Diet Pub Squash (max 350ml/daily)
Fanta Zero (max 350ml/daily)
Solo The Sub (max 350ml/daily)
Schweppes: Diet Dry Ginger Ale (max 350ml/daily)
The only Cola/Pepsi/Coke without Caffeine is Diet Coke – Caffeine free.Coles (Farmland) Diet Cola, Coke Zero, Pepsi Max and Pepsi Light all contains caffeine.
Dr Cohen has also said that if you don’t drink coffee then you can have diet coke with caffeine however you need to be very aware that too much caffeine will make you hungry and can also slow your weight loss
and this came through last week, but I forgot to post it
SWEETNERS & CONDIMENTS
I just wanted to let you know that Dr Cohen has now given us a limit of only 5sweetener tablets per day and no more than 1 teaspoon in total of Garlic, Chilli and ginger fresh or powered. If you go over this amount it will cause a deviation, plus could cause hunger.


Also, you are allowed hermesates (?), but not the hermesates gold, only the normal ones

Sorry for such a long post. Have a great day everyone.
 
TA DA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(this is me dancing in my SIZE 14 black jeans)

Seriously, it happened overnight! I don't know if anyone remembers but when I started I had 'The pants goal' instead of weighing everyday I would determine success by fitting into my old pants, first sze 16, then 14, then 12, then the Sass and Bides (size 11), well I stopped that because I was sick of jumping up and down trying to pull the size 14s on over my gut (I even broke a lamp in the process one day) everyday. Anywya, today I wake up, I'm so sick of wearing the same pants (the 16s) everday to uni so I thought I was going to torture myself again, just for fun (because I'm not stressed enough already) and OH MY GOD!! I just couldn't beleive it! I still have a bit of a mushroom over the top, but it was only a week and a half ago the button at the top wouldn't even come 10 or so cms to the button hole!

anyway exciting stuff! I have SO MUCH work due in the next couple weeks, I haven't even been able to go to markets and have my weekly cooking day which I'm lost without because I am ssssoooo over tuna and salad! I had it for luch and I'm at work so I'm having it for dinner, ah well short term pain long term gain! anyway I seriously miss you guys, haven't had time to do anything cos of the dredded end of semester, I have to go to uni tonight after work a 11pm to edit my movie, so chances are I will get no sleep tonight- I know its bad but its better than a cream bun. Also I have found myself becoming addicted to black tea. When I started the program I swore off caffine forever (I only drank tea tho, I hate coffee) but I'm finding it wakes me up and releives stress greatly! I will come off it when uni is over

Anyway I am babbling again, especially about myself!- us uni students are usually self involved! (just jokes!) na, I think its all the caffine today, not used to it. I hope all you lovely people are well, and a BIG WELCOME to the newbies

Also, Jewls I hope ur feeling better, you are so awsome having lost 30+ kgs I know you can do it, as Chelsea once told me focus on whats behind you rather than whats in front of you. You have everyone here's love and support, my thoughts are with you

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Mermaid Sister

I just thought id take this time ive finally found to scratch myself to say WELL DONE!!!!!! Im so proud of you!!!! The feeling is amazing isnt it?..:D

I remember i was only in my Size 16's for approx 2 weeks, then onto the 14's now im in the 12's and its amazing!!!

I have been really really bad lately, as ive said in previous posts.. but im getting back on track which is a good thing, and havent put on any weight :)

Ill talk to you soon darl, have fun, take care :) Mwwwah x
 
Raided the storage boxes!!

We are building a house at the moment so most of my clothes are in storage...well it got to the point this morning when I looked in the mirror that I looked terrible....in my fat clothes! So off I went to where our boxes are stored in a mad hunt for long lost skinnyish clothes...it was quite fun...a bit like shopping but spending no $. Came home with a bundle of undies (never worn), a belt...to hold up inbetween size pants, some shirts for work, a pair of levis in a 33 that I've never fitted into (put them on when I got home and I reckon only 2 more kg and they'll fit...awesome!) and a pair of sexy black bootleg cords size 12 (nearly fit....great incentive!) I couldn't find what I was really looking for ...a whole box of size 12 stuff...will have to wait til jan/feb when we move into new house....don't know what's more exciting, the fact that I'll be approx 61-62kg or our new house!!

Love reading all of your posts...gives me so much incentive and motivation...
We can do it!​
 
WAY TO GO MERMAID SISTER.. fantastic effort and I can only imagine how amzing you must feel.

I'm a little peeved at Cohens today cause the more people I talk to the more I realise our programs are all identical and so what are we paying for when we pay for our personalised programs!

Is it normal to not be able to sleep when you first start Cohen's? The last two nights I'm still wide awake about 5 hours past my normal bed time.


oh and edited to ask what's the longest anyones been on Cohens without deviation at all? with the loss I have to go I'm probably looking at 25 weeks give or take.
 
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cheating~ :p

juz changed my ticker goal weight to 58 (refeeding weight) instead of the goal weight 56.... hope i can reach the BIG RF soon~ :p
 
I'm a little peeved at Cohens today cause the more people I talk to the more I realise our programs are all identical and so what are we paying for when we pay for our personalised programs!

What do you mean?

I've looked at about 5 programmes so far, and they're ALL different. TOTALLY different quantities of foods.

Yes, they're all the same FOOD LIST, but we knew that at the start. It's the quantities that differ.

I guarantee mine is different from yours.

asy :D
 
how many people have 175g of yogurt ? for there allowance i know 3 people on this and they all have the same amount the only difference between our programs is 5 or 10 g in weights
and we all have 5 crackers:D
but it works thats all i care just have to stop deviating
 
Programs are definetely different. Even my new program in comparison to my old one is different, where weights and even some foods are concerned. So my body chemistry has obviously changed. Anyway, even if they were all the same - who cares . I certainly havent found a cheaper or more effective way to lose weight, that really works. This way pays big returns for your money. If there were an easier cheaper way, we would all have found it and done it by now.
The longest I went without deviation was the 1st time around - 5months. I aim to that again this time, and so far so good.
I think its really important to see Cohens in a positive way. Sometimes, if we are finding things to criticize, it can give us license to give up. Its better not to go there. Stay positive. It works thats all we need to know. (and that it makes us healthy)
I cant believe how much my hips and waist have reduced in 3 weeks. A friend gave me a bunch of hipsters which I couldnt do up 3 weeks ago. Now they are all too loose around the hips, and a bit too snug in the legs, so I dare say, by the time they fit in the legs, they'll be too big up top to wear. That usually happens. Shame, coz they were really nice.

 
Personal & Unique Programs

I'm a little peeved at Cohens today cause the more people I talk to the more I realise our programs are all identical and so what are we paying for when we pay for our personalised programs!

I don't think that any of our programs are identical (well, having said that, odds are - considering the number of people on this program - that there is someone out there who has the same makeup as you and therefore the same program). The food list is the same in most cases, but sometimes even this differs. I know that some people can have Philly Cheese (I couldn't :( ) and I was allowed to have a variety of vinegars, including white wine, red wine, apple cider and balsamic, whereas others are not. So there are subtle differences in what some of us can and can't have. Also, as mentioned, the quanties of food differ, as do the 'meal options'. Some people have a choice of 3 options in meal 1 (egg + veggie, cheese + veggies or yohgurt), while others might also have a fish or chicken option. This goes for all the meal options...also, some have 2 different chicken or fish options, while others only have 1...
Also the number of fruit varies. I was allowed 2, but another lady who has just finished her program was allowed 4 and yet another cohenette was allowed 3! The number of crackers also varies, but I haven't seen anyone be allowed any more than 6 in a day.
The most important thing to remember is that your program is for you and it will work. L-jay is spot-on - stay positive and believe!


what's the longest anyones been on Cohens without deviation at all? with the loss I have to go I'm probably looking at 25 weeks give or take.

I am pround to say I went for 6 months (24 weeks) without ANY deviations...I then allowed myself to deviate just once (with a slice of my Dad's 60th birthday cake) as a reward...:D

Have a great day eveyone!
 
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L Jay My pants are usually peel on around the bum & Thighs and i can hide a UDL or a Glass in the waist band! (really handy at times) However i am relatively well balanced as i take the same size on top as i do on the bottom
 
Brieziel Yeah that would be a handy spot to stash things. I thought you may be a bit better proportioned than me, because your goal is lower than mine. So I figure you are a little shorter. My goal has been set at 67-70. I would have liked to be 62, which is the magic number ( and very elusive) I was when I was married, but I know that may be a little unrealistic and too hard to maintain. So I'm aiming 1st for 70, but will probably settle for between 65 and 67. We still want to look healthy after all.
Less Of Me on my original plan I was allowed philly cheese, but am not now ( only had it once because it was too tempting). I wonder if its been dropped from the list since my original program?

rjm noticing your ticker is down, not far to your first goal.:)
 
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Hi all,
Yes L-Jay, 3kgs in 3 days. Don't you just love this diet. I know I say that in every post, but it is true!! I also totally agree with you on staying positive. As soon as those little negative niggles settle in, it's usually not too long before I break. Lucky that this program increases your serotonin levels which makes it easier to feel better and more positive. If you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? I wish I had been set 70kgs as my goal weight. I haven't been 60kg for about 20 years.
IchooseLife, every program I have seen is also different. I think Lizzie (from the old thread) was on the program for ages, and got down to her goal weight. Maybe you could look her up on the old thread and PM her. I'm sure she wouldn't mind.

Just checked, Lizzi lost 55kgs in 15 months
 
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Hey guys,
I know my program is different from others just by reading everyones posts. Who really cares if they are the same. I have spent sooooooooooo much money on NEW diets that will WORK!! and pills and all that other crap. Believe me I have tried them all........I am just glad to find something that works and works quickly to maintain the enthusiasum. My biggest problem was exercising as I have arthritis through my feet and knees and find it really hard to exercise, hence no weight loss. But this is great. I love it!!

keep going - it's like the ad - because youre worth it!!

rjm - I wish my goal was around 70kg too. I dont think I have ever been 60kg
 
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wow LESSofME that's an awesome effort and inspires me.. cause that's about how long I'll probably be on the initial program for.


I CARE :p
 
Hey all

I'm a dirty deviator. I broke last night and then again today (because I was bad last night) and because I have something on tomorrow night, I tell myself I'll just start for real on Sunday. :confused:

Hi Dreamer,
If you stop your plan everytime you deviate, you will never get started. Its particularly important that you don't deviate because you deviated!! Otherwise its a dangerous spiral back to the weight you used to be.

I deviate regularly because of business functions. I try to stick to the general principles, but if I stuff up badly, which I do occassionally, I do a few things.

Firstly, I reduce the amount of crispbread and fruit that I eat that day, and possibly the day after....

I increase the amount of water that I drink, to flush as much fat out of my system as possible.

I switch to fish and seafood based meals for a few days to try to catch up on the weight loss

I analyse why I stuffed up! So, if I go out for a meal and I stick to reasonable amounts of protein and vegetables, I don't consider that I stuffed up. But if I panic eat, eat way too much of the right thing, or eat completely wrong foods, then I try to work out why that happened and how I can avoid it in future. Sometimes, that means better planning, sometimes its because I've been in too many high risk situations too close together and I just can't keep resisting etc. So, I try to learn from the situation so I don't do it again.

So, don't wait for Sunday to start. Learn from your mistakes and be back on the wagon straight away.

In terms of your party, maybe find out what types of foods will be available. If there is nothing there suitable for you, then take a plate of food to share that you can eat as well. Stay well away from any buffet table. If its a restaurant, order steak/ seafood and salad. Take sparkling water, so you feel like you are drinking something nice.

I don't think Cohen's has to equal social deprivation. It is possible to eat out and not totally stuff up.

Good Luck!
 
I don't think Cohen's has to equal social deprivation. It is possible to eat out and not totally stuff up.

Absolutely true.

Especially if you're having dinner at a friend's house. There's nothing to stop you taking your pre-weighed dinner with you and slipping into the kitchen and putting it onto a plate, to be served at the same time as those eating the other food. If the host/ess is a true friend they will help you, not hinder you. Drinking can be accomplished with bubbly water, or allowance soft drinks.

It's really a question of how much you really want this.

To reply to someone's question previously about how long people have gone without deviating, I started on July 1, and will finish hopefully end of March next year. I will not have deviated.

asy :D
 
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