Cannon 2006
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Damn I can't believe I followed that link. That song is even lamer after the fifth time...OMG!! I can't stop playing it. Arrggghh!! Help!!!!
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T2 Trucker
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lol Cannon got Rickrolled !!
felici
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I did have a great day thank you!!Good morning!! I hope you have a wonderful day!
At least I didn't 'Tayroll' ya
Funny how something can be so predictable and yet remain totally unexpected! It was good of you to share my pain!
lol Cannon got Rickrolled !!
felici
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Thursday
Breakfast 7:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam . Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk.
Snack 10:30 Pear. Coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 12:15 Toasted sandwich: 2 slices wholemeal bread, low fat cheese, tomato. 1 orange. Coffee and hilo milk.
Dinner: 4:30 1 C spaghetti. Tomato, tinned salmon, green olives, parsley sauce. Chopped fresh pear with low fat yoghurt. Coffee with hilo milk.
Whisky and dry, bourbon and coke, cappucino.
We went to the final concert for my girl. I was much more relaxed this time. I planned to have a brandy and dry, but the bar was very limited so I ended up buying a premixed bottle of whisky and dry when we arrived and then sharing a bourbon and coke mix at half time. Not my best effort. The drink I'd planned would have been maybe 150 ml maximum of sugary drink but the bottles were at least twice that. I would have felt cheated without a planned drink, but probably could have avoided that by just having half a bottle. Not really a biggie, as this isn't an ongoing issue, though perhaps it's something to bear in mind for food.
I think I'm fine when it comes to eating what I'm used to, but taking extra care over portions when I'm having something that's not routine may be an area for a mental flag. Now that it's possible to see our trip away as happening “next month”, the issues that come with it probably should get a bit of thought. I know I can't control my food the way I do here, while I'm travelling. I don't even want to! However, I also figure that on a holiday of more than 3 weeks I could do some real damage and there's no way I want that. Things have changed a lot for me since we went on a one week break at the same time last year. I left home that time thinking (once again), that I had my eating under control and didn't even want to eat badly. However I didn't even last the first day. By the time I got back, I had to hunt down a trigger to get started all over again, and it took me until I joined here at the tail end of November to find it. I learned from that, and I've learned a lot else since. Also, I don't think the sense of control I had back then after a couple or three weeks of eating well can reasonably be compared to what I've gained after what will be 10 months. So I don't expect to fall in a hole, but eating differently and still doing ok will be a challenge. I'm ok with not losing weight but I don't want to lose control, is what it boils down to I guess.
No exercise. It couldn't be fitted in before the concert and I didn't feel energetic afterwards.
Hopefully though, I will stay busy for the next four months but am past the worst of my time issues now.
Breakfast 7:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam . Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk.
Snack 10:30 Pear. Coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 12:15 Toasted sandwich: 2 slices wholemeal bread, low fat cheese, tomato. 1 orange. Coffee and hilo milk.
Dinner: 4:30 1 C spaghetti. Tomato, tinned salmon, green olives, parsley sauce. Chopped fresh pear with low fat yoghurt. Coffee with hilo milk.
Whisky and dry, bourbon and coke, cappucino.
We went to the final concert for my girl. I was much more relaxed this time. I planned to have a brandy and dry, but the bar was very limited so I ended up buying a premixed bottle of whisky and dry when we arrived and then sharing a bourbon and coke mix at half time. Not my best effort. The drink I'd planned would have been maybe 150 ml maximum of sugary drink but the bottles were at least twice that. I would have felt cheated without a planned drink, but probably could have avoided that by just having half a bottle. Not really a biggie, as this isn't an ongoing issue, though perhaps it's something to bear in mind for food.
I think I'm fine when it comes to eating what I'm used to, but taking extra care over portions when I'm having something that's not routine may be an area for a mental flag. Now that it's possible to see our trip away as happening “next month”, the issues that come with it probably should get a bit of thought. I know I can't control my food the way I do here, while I'm travelling. I don't even want to! However, I also figure that on a holiday of more than 3 weeks I could do some real damage and there's no way I want that. Things have changed a lot for me since we went on a one week break at the same time last year. I left home that time thinking (once again), that I had my eating under control and didn't even want to eat badly. However I didn't even last the first day. By the time I got back, I had to hunt down a trigger to get started all over again, and it took me until I joined here at the tail end of November to find it. I learned from that, and I've learned a lot else since. Also, I don't think the sense of control I had back then after a couple or three weeks of eating well can reasonably be compared to what I've gained after what will be 10 months. So I don't expect to fall in a hole, but eating differently and still doing ok will be a challenge. I'm ok with not losing weight but I don't want to lose control, is what it boils down to I guess.
No exercise. It couldn't be fitted in before the concert and I didn't feel energetic afterwards.
Hopefully though, I will stay busy for the next four months but am past the worst of my time issues now.
Cannon 2006
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Yeah, that's a flag issue for me too. Good luck on the trip. 3 weeks sounds wonderful, but you're right if you don't plan for it, it could be trouble. I know you'll do great.
T2 Trucker
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Post-dinner was interesting. Me likes
Britta Bear
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Hey Felici! I just wanted to pop in and say hello! It's been a while I hope everything is going smoothly for you
I hope everything is going smoothly for you
felici
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I'm confident the trip will work out fine, but partly cos I will plan for it, partly because I have the experience of meeting changes along the weight loss journey. The image of jumping waves sprang to mind.
Today I realized I could get out to the bathroom, not naked, using the old expedient of wrapping a towel all the way around with no gaps!! and I just thought, no way, no way am I ever ever going back to all that crap!!
Now and again, that sensation of warmth running down my arms is rather appealing.Post-dinner was interesting. Me likes
Hello!!Hey Felici! I just wanted to pop in and say hello! It's been a while
I posted in your diary. We've both had away patches lately but I loved catching up.
felici
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I have got to leave to have time for a walk I can properly enjoy as it deserves, but I so wanted to post this afternoon while it's still light. Well, I wanted to do everything this afternoon. I just slept for about 15 hours last night. And today was just the most perfect day of crispy winter air and spring promises sunshine. My garden is full of new green leaves and clumps of "snowdrops" are blooming outside my window.
cinderelly
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Well a cpl pain in the ass doc visits are better than the alternative...and it could have been a lot worse
I have got to leave to have time for a walk I can properly enjoy as it deserves, but I so wanted to post this afternoon while it's still light. Well, I wanted to do everything this afternoon. I just slept for about 15 hours last night. And today was just the most perfect day of crispy winter air and spring promises sunshine. My garden is full of new green leaves and clumps of "snowdrops" are blooming outside my window.
ha ha ha - sounds like me I try to fit in everything and stress myself out...usually exercise wins over comp and then comp wins over everything else...LOL
I love your description of things it is as if I am there and a part of it and see it!!!
felici
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Thanks Cerella.
If you can start your exercise before you go on line that probably explains why yours is always happening, and mine ... not always!
Friday
Breakfast 7:30 2 weetbix with diced peaches and 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice toasted wholemeal bread with plum and cinnamon jam. 1 boiled egg. 1 coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 2:30 2 slices of toasted wholemeal bread, one with vegemite, one with jam. 3 slices shaved double smoked ham. Handful of snow peas. Coffee with milk.
Dinner: 8:00 pm 1 squid's worth of fried squid with lime juice. Grilled rump steak. 2 slices wholemeal Vienna loaf. Salad of finely chopped baby cos, amorato tomatoes, mixed marinated olives, and a little onion (which I removed before eating), and a dressing of EVO oil and balsimic vinegar.
Exercise: No.
And then at 8:15 I got a phone call. A friendly call, but just getting it, reminded me that I was supposed to help contribute to a cake stall in the morning. Aaaaagh. So no evening to myself!! It did occur to me that there might be something wrong with baking this food I wouldn't want to eat anyway.... Also that maybe the fact that I could find no suitable sugar or margarine to bake with in my kitchen was a good reflection on my shopping ... before I drove to the all night service station to buy some. So I did stay up very very late. I am not good at baking cake anyway or maybe it's my oven that's not good at it, or maybe both of us. At any rate I baked a lot and threw out the things that burnt. I tasted a few things, and swallowed. Therefore:
Middle of the night:
1 small apple and cinnamon muffin - that had turned out fine!
1/3 X 4 chocolate cupcakes - that were burnt!
And I licked the chocolate cake bowl!
Saturday
Breakfast 7:30 1C low fat soy milk. 2small slices toasted wholemeal Vienna loaf with plum and cinnamon jam.
8:30am Cappucino.
Lunch: 2:30 2 weetbix with diced peaches, 1 C lowfat soya milk. 1 boiled egg. 1 C coffee with milk.
I definitely had to catch up that missed out breakfast I couldn't fit in!
Dinner: 6:30 pm Probably the equivalent of 3 skinless chicken thighs, cooked in a shikuti sauce, which I let drain off. A very little basmati rice. 1 naan. Cucumber in low fat yoghurt. Apple with curry powder. Capsicum, tomato & and onion salad (from which I removed the onion before I eating.)
Exercise: No. Yet again.
I was so tired I fell asleep at the table after eating. The upside of course, is that I did then sleep and sleep and sleep!!
Sunday
Breakfast 10:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam 12. Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk x 3-4.
Snack 12:00 1 1/2 macadamia nuts.
Lunch: 2:30 2 slices wholemeal toast. One with vegemite, one with ~25 gm brie. 1 baby red capsicum. Coffee and milk.
That brie was leftover from 2 weekends ago, which I mention to say that I did not eat it for 2 weeks. Good for me. Before mentioning that I weighed it. And found out what a small piece of brie you get for 25 gms. When I was kind of hoping it would be actually only 12 gms or so ... to make up for the fact that it was definitely NOT low fat. Probably it was a double brie in fact....
Dinner: 7:30 pm ~ 140 gm grilled lean lamb. Microwaved potato (about 80 gm), broccoli, carrot. Gravy. Tub of diet apricot yoghurt. 8 fresh dates. Green tea.
Exercise: 5:10 pm 1hr 40 mins. Walk around Carine wetlands and back. I took the shortest route I could, while still actually going there. That was probably just as well as it was still pretty late by the time I got home.
Good side of this walk: I loved it!! From finally getting out the door and jogging around for a while because I was just glad to be moving, to seeing the swamp full of water and listening to an evening chorus of frogs chirping and croaking and glooping, to thinking I recognized a kookaburra as it flew by and having that confirmed as it settled and started an authentic laugh, or marvelling that the whole blue sky was cloudless to it's glowing gold and pink rim, that the water in the lake was pink, that the sky had turned to purple overhead and through the black leaves above me, to remembering that I'd had few walks lately that barely jogged me back up to normal, and rejoicing that tonight a long walk was tipping me far far past.
Downside: Well, my ankle hurt little enough to ignore most of the time. But enough to notice, some of the time. Whereas I could hardly stop myself jogging away from the house, I was sure it would be bad news to jog home.
I don't know if I hurt it jogging on the trampoline or from wearing low heeled shoes instead of flats two evenings this past week.
If you can start your exercise before you go on line that probably explains why yours is always happening, and mine ... not always!
Friday
Breakfast 7:30 2 weetbix with diced peaches and 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice toasted wholemeal bread with plum and cinnamon jam. 1 boiled egg. 1 coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 2:30 2 slices of toasted wholemeal bread, one with vegemite, one with jam. 3 slices shaved double smoked ham. Handful of snow peas. Coffee with milk.
Dinner: 8:00 pm 1 squid's worth of fried squid with lime juice. Grilled rump steak. 2 slices wholemeal Vienna loaf. Salad of finely chopped baby cos, amorato tomatoes, mixed marinated olives, and a little onion (which I removed before eating), and a dressing of EVO oil and balsimic vinegar.
Exercise: No.
And then at 8:15 I got a phone call. A friendly call, but just getting it, reminded me that I was supposed to help contribute to a cake stall in the morning. Aaaaagh. So no evening to myself!! It did occur to me that there might be something wrong with baking this food I wouldn't want to eat anyway.... Also that maybe the fact that I could find no suitable sugar or margarine to bake with in my kitchen was a good reflection on my shopping ... before I drove to the all night service station to buy some. So I did stay up very very late. I am not good at baking cake anyway or maybe it's my oven that's not good at it, or maybe both of us. At any rate I baked a lot and threw out the things that burnt. I tasted a few things, and swallowed. Therefore:
Middle of the night:
1 small apple and cinnamon muffin - that had turned out fine!
1/3 X 4 chocolate cupcakes - that were burnt!
And I licked the chocolate cake bowl!
Saturday
Breakfast 7:30 1C low fat soy milk. 2small slices toasted wholemeal Vienna loaf with plum and cinnamon jam.
8:30am Cappucino.
Lunch: 2:30 2 weetbix with diced peaches, 1 C lowfat soya milk. 1 boiled egg. 1 C coffee with milk.
I definitely had to catch up that missed out breakfast I couldn't fit in!
Dinner: 6:30 pm Probably the equivalent of 3 skinless chicken thighs, cooked in a shikuti sauce, which I let drain off. A very little basmati rice. 1 naan. Cucumber in low fat yoghurt. Apple with curry powder. Capsicum, tomato & and onion salad (from which I removed the onion before I eating.)
Exercise: No. Yet again.
I was so tired I fell asleep at the table after eating. The upside of course, is that I did then sleep and sleep and sleep!!
Sunday
Breakfast 10:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam 12. Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk x 3-4
.Snack 12:00 1 1/2 macadamia nuts.
Lunch: 2:30 2 slices wholemeal toast. One with vegemite, one with ~25 gm brie. 1 baby red capsicum. Coffee and milk.
That brie was leftover from 2 weekends ago, which I mention to say that I did not eat it for 2 weeks.
Good for me. Before mentioning that I weighed it. And found out what a small piece of brie you get for 25 gms. When I was kind of hoping it would be actually only 12 gms or so ... to make up for the fact that it was definitely NOT low fat. Probably it was a double brie in fact....Dinner: 7:30 pm ~ 140 gm grilled lean lamb. Microwaved potato (about 80 gm), broccoli, carrot. Gravy. Tub of diet apricot yoghurt. 8 fresh dates. Green tea.
Exercise: 5:10 pm 1hr 40 mins. Walk around Carine wetlands and back. I took the shortest route I could, while still actually going there. That was probably just as well as it was still pretty late by the time I got home.
Good side of this walk: I loved it!! From finally getting out the door and jogging around for a while because I was just glad to be moving, to seeing the swamp full of water and listening to an evening chorus of frogs chirping and croaking and glooping, to thinking I recognized a kookaburra as it flew by and having that confirmed as it settled and started an authentic laugh, or marvelling that the whole blue sky was cloudless to it's glowing gold and pink rim, that the water in the lake was pink, that the sky had turned to purple overhead and through the black leaves above me, to remembering that I'd had few walks lately that barely jogged me back up to normal, and rejoicing that tonight a long walk was tipping me far far past.
Downside: Well, my ankle hurt little enough to ignore most of the time. But enough to notice, some of the time. Whereas I could hardly stop myself jogging away from the house, I was sure it would be bad news to jog home.
I don't know if I hurt it jogging on the trampoline or from wearing low heeled shoes instead of flats two evenings this past week.
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cinderelly
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I need it - ya know - like daily for at least 1.5 to 2 hrs...it must be first before anything else...
felici
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Well that's a great thing to need, Cerella!!
Monday
Breakfast 7:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam . Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk.
Snack 10:30 Coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 12:15 2 slices wholemeal bread, 2 giant field mushrooms and 2 slices double smoked ham fried in about ½ tbspn EVO oil and ½ tbspn low fat margarine. 8 dates. Coffee and milk.
Snack: 3:30 5 dates. Tin of baked beans. Coffee with milk.
Dinner: 7:30 Baby red capsicum. Snow peas. Cannelloni: pasta, tomato, garlic, ricotta, lowfat cheddar, egg white. Microwaved broccoli and carrots. 3 macadamia nuts.
A big slice of Black Forest Torte. My son's birthday cake. It would be worth making myself slow down a bit at times when I decide to indulge like that because I was overful afterwards. And yet though I was overly full I would have gone on to actually eat a little actual chocolate if my family hadn't already removed every trace from the house. And then I had a nice strong coffee and felt the flavours were great and I was totally satisfied and not at all likely to hunt down any rubbish. In fact there was still left over stuff in the fridge from the cake stall and it's no more appealing than usual. Which is not much. So I'm pleased about all that. I guess because I still have an ongoing concern about maintaining control being the bottom line for me.
Exercise: No. The ankle was aching and puffy this morning and I want it to be getting better, not worse, before I do much with it again.
Monday
Breakfast 7:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam . Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk.
Snack 10:30 Coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 12:15 2 slices wholemeal bread, 2 giant field mushrooms and 2 slices double smoked ham fried in about ½ tbspn EVO oil and ½ tbspn low fat margarine. 8 dates. Coffee and milk.
Snack: 3:30 5 dates. Tin of baked beans. Coffee with milk.
Dinner: 7:30 Baby red capsicum. Snow peas. Cannelloni: pasta, tomato, garlic, ricotta, lowfat cheddar, egg white. Microwaved broccoli and carrots. 3 macadamia nuts.
A big slice of Black Forest Torte. My son's birthday cake. It would be worth making myself slow down a bit at times when I decide to indulge like that because I was overful afterwards. And yet though I was overly full I would have gone on to actually eat a little actual chocolate if my family hadn't already removed every trace from the house. And then I had a nice strong coffee and felt the flavours were great and I was totally satisfied and not at all likely to hunt down any rubbish. In fact there was still left over stuff in the fridge from the cake stall and it's no more appealing than usual. Which is not much. So I'm pleased about all that. I guess because I still have an ongoing concern about maintaining control being the bottom line for me.
Exercise: No. The ankle was aching and puffy this morning and I want it to be getting better, not worse, before I do much with it again.
Cannon 2006
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Hey Felici, you know I believe in indulgence within moderation. Too many people are all or nothing and eventually they get tired of nothing. You're doing great .
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saturdaysaint
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Hey..finally stopped in here! Hey, you've even told me about the actual importance of indulging occasionally. If you do it in moderation, you are decreasing your chances of splurging and going over board. I think its good for your mood as well. I read this article today about how weight loss isn't all about the physicality of it all, that it's emotional AND simply a lifestyle change. Getting over the idea of "I can't wait to get back to *normal* eating after I lose my weight". That's when you gain it all back and more. So kudos to you! You're doing GREAT!!!
p.s. no baby yet
felici
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[Introspective rant] coming up.
Here is the summary: I think eating high calorie, high sugar, high fat foods is a very dodgy business requiring great care!
I bought my favourite sweet treat from that cake stall on Saturday. (I won't even mention the name here, seeing as I didn't eat it or feel obliged to record it, and it is so evocative!) However I didn't eat any. If I made exceptions for cake stalls, and mums bringing in cake for kid's birthdays at schools, and lucked in on the day the teachers bring morning tea into the staff room, and somebody baked a cake and it's really healthy, and I visited my mum and she put out afternoon tea for us all.... Well. I've already been there done that and it's part of what I'm not going back to.
I find it's easier to deal with those things in the way I dealt with stopping smoking. It was so long ago that in those days people would constantly offer cigarettes. But that issue was not an issue once you were not a smoker. Just "No thanks I don't smoke". Easy peasy! In the bad years of my eating I used to constantly think about that and wish there was a way to make that happen with my food. It took a long time for me to find out that I could do the same thing - just do it for particular kinds of foods and that has made my life a lot simpler!! Things like exceptions are the area I'm still exploring, to work out how to make sure that they are the exception that helped me feel I am able to enjoy the whole of my life and not be deprived and NOT the exception that started the beginning of yet another backsliding, yo-yoing descent into fat prison.
Did I say that!!?
I guess I think that there are times when we need to be 100% strict. I absolutely needed that when I started on here. If I slipped up badly, I would still go back to that position even now. However I do also think that an ongoing sense of deprivation was sometimes a problem for me in the past, and would be a problem if I had it now. Which I don't. I feel like I now get a kick out of special event sweet indulgences that I couldn't get when they were an everyday occurrence for me. Also that I have a mindset now that allows me to say no to things other people are saying yes to, without feeling like I am missing out on anything that's worth having.
The thing that I am thoroughly and all the time convinced of, is that for me, eating regularly and in a well balanced way stops me feeling cravings and stops me feeling as though it is normal to have a lot of indulgences. I like to eat a lot and not be hungry for long or feel deprived. I also believe that it's worth my while to discipline and channel my thinking so that it's easy for to feel that healthy eating is normal eating. Indulging used to feel normal for me. I look around me and see that it is normal for many people. Also that it is normal for many people to normally be fat!! I soooo do not want that!
Also I am a person with so many failed changes behind me, that I do still want to be very aware every time I make an exception. I want to be very conscious of what it was and how it went and what the implications are... I need to know every time that it was an exception with an end, not the beginning of a slide. I guess there could come a time when the way I manage exceptions might also seem routine to me, not requiring much thought, but maybe never or maybe not for years, because I do tend to forget things if they are not happening all the time and by definition that's what an exception is!!
Ha ha. End [/introspective rant!]
Thank you to my listeners.
SS - worth waiting for!!
Here is the summary: I think eating high calorie, high sugar, high fat foods is a very dodgy business requiring great care!
Thanks, Cannon. I'm still happy with what I'm doing. I guess re the cake, overall I'm happy that I have no sense either of being deprived, or of acting in a way that will stop me losing weight. That is, I'm pleased that these days it seems I can handle both sides of the issue. On the one hand the fact that I don't usually eat that food, and on the other, that I can have it rarely when it seems there is an established reason. I make an exception for family birthday cakes.Hey Felici, you know I believe in indulgence within moderation. Too many people are all or nothing and eventually they get tired of nothing. You're doing great
I bought my favourite sweet treat from that cake stall on Saturday. (I won't even mention the name here, seeing as I didn't eat it or feel obliged to record it, and it is so evocative!) However I didn't eat any. If I made exceptions for cake stalls, and mums bringing in cake for kid's birthdays at schools, and lucked in on the day the teachers bring morning tea into the staff room, and somebody baked a cake and it's really healthy, and I visited my mum and she put out afternoon tea for us all.... Well. I've already been there done that and it's part of what I'm not going back to. I find it's easier to deal with those things in the way I dealt with stopping smoking. It was so long ago that in those days people would constantly offer cigarettes. But that issue was not an issue once you were not a smoker. Just "No thanks I don't smoke". Easy peasy!
In the bad years of my eating I used to constantly think about that and wish there was a way to make that happen with my food. It took a long time for me to find out that I could do the same thing - just do it for particular kinds of foods and that has made my life a lot simpler!! Things like exceptions are the area I'm still exploring, to work out how to make sure that they are the exception that helped me feel I am able to enjoy the whole of my life and not be deprived and NOT the exception that started the beginning of yet another backsliding, yo-yoing descent into fat prison.Hey..finally stopped in here! Hey, you've even told me about the actual importance of indulging occasionally. If you do it in moderation, you are decreasing your chances of splurging and going over board. I think its good for your mood as well. I read this article today about how weight loss isn't all about the physicality of it all, that it's emotional AND simply a lifestyle change. Getting over the idea of "I can't wait to get back to *normal* eating after I lose my weight". That's when you gain it all back and more. So kudos to you! You're doing GREAT!!!
p.s. no baby yet
Did I say that!!?
I guess I think that there are times when we need to be 100% strict. I absolutely needed that when I started on here. If I slipped up badly, I would still go back to that position even now. However I do also think that an ongoing sense of deprivation was sometimes a problem for me in the past, and would be a problem if I had it now. Which I don't. I feel like I now get a kick out of special event sweet indulgences that I couldn't get when they were an everyday occurrence for me. Also that I have a mindset now that allows me to say no to things other people are saying yes to, without feeling like I am missing out on anything that's worth having.
The thing that I am thoroughly and all the time convinced of, is that for me, eating regularly and in a well balanced way stops me feeling cravings and stops me feeling as though it is normal to have a lot of indulgences. I like to eat a lot and not be hungry for long or feel deprived. I also believe that it's worth my while to discipline and channel my thinking so that it's easy for to feel that healthy eating is normal eating. Indulging used to feel normal for me. I look around me and see that it is normal for many people. Also that it is normal for many people to normally be fat!! I soooo do not want that!
Also I am a person with so many failed changes behind me, that I do still want to be very aware every time I make an exception. I want to be very conscious of what it was and how it went and what the implications are... I need to know every time that it was an exception with an end, not the beginning of a slide. I guess there could come a time when the way I manage exceptions might also seem routine to me, not requiring much thought, but maybe never or maybe not for years, because I do tend to forget things if they are not happening all the time and by definition that's what an exception is!!
Ha ha. End [/introspective rant!]
Thank you to my listeners.
SS - worth waiting for!!
felici
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OMG. I feel like I have turned into a nurse. Both kids sick and over vomiting but still constantly talking about being sick and measuring their temperatures and coughing and blowing their noses, and asking for medicine, and that is when their father is not asking me about whether I should be contacting the hospital...
and then the girl, who is 11 years old, came in and asked me if the new little bottle I'd bought today was my own drink, because she was going to have it, but then thought maybe I'd specially bought it for myself ...
and when I looked incredulous and said "No, it's not a drink, it's poison," she looked incredulous and said "Then why is it apple flavoured...?"
I wonder if fiddling with the child proof cap would have been enough to make her read the bit about apple perfumed triple strength disinfectant concentrate.
Does this mean that it is good enough to just bring your daughter up to be polite about what she chooses to drink? and that it doesn't matter that I have obviously skipped something fairly basic in the safety area?
and then the girl, who is 11 years old, came in and asked me if the new little bottle I'd bought today was my own drink, because she was going to have it, but then thought maybe I'd specially bought it for myself ...
and when I looked incredulous and said "No, it's not a drink, it's poison," she looked incredulous and said "Then why is it apple flavoured...?"
I wonder if fiddling with the child proof cap would have been enough to make her read the bit about apple perfumed triple strength disinfectant concentrate.
Does this mean that it is good enough to just bring your daughter up to be polite about what she chooses to drink? and that it doesn't matter that I have obviously skipped something fairly basic in the safety area?
it's a good thing she was considerate enough to ask first... good job on raising her with manners
how scarey though...
Seems llike that is one of those things that you just don't think about until it could possibly happen... I'm not sure when common sense appears in a person, it might take a few years...
how scarey though...
Seems llike that is one of those things that you just don't think about until it could possibly happen... I'm not sure when common sense appears in a person, it might take a few years...
felici
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I swear my parents gave me repeated lectures about don't drink ... well I don't know what I wasn't supposed to drink really ... blue kerosene ... I don't know what else but I was warned! I don't know when my common sense is coming! View attachment 4277
I have told her about drugs, and cigarettes and alcohol and boys...
(edit: and giving out information on the internet and strangers and cars and sunburn cream ...)
Tuesday
Breakfast 8:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam . Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk.
Snack 3 x Coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 1:30 2 slices wholemeal bread, 1 grilled with ~30 gm low fat cheese, 2 slices double smoked ham, tomato, and black olives (all the best bits out of a pizza ),and another toasted - 1/2 with vegemite and ½ with plum and cinnamon jam. 8 dates. Low fat apricot yoghurt. Coffee and milk.
Dinner: 7:30 ~130 gm grilled rump steak. 1 slice fresh wholemeal bread. Lots of fresh veges: squash, carrot, celery, lettuce, tomato, snow peas, mushrooms – very colourful! 8 dates. Low fat apricot yoghurt. Green tea.
Exercise: 30 minutes Just cos the dog needed walking. My ankle would have been better without it.
I have told her about drugs, and cigarettes and alcohol and boys...
(edit: and giving out information on the internet and strangers and cars and sunburn cream ...)
Tuesday
Breakfast 8:30 2 weetbix, 1/3 C diced peaches , 1C low fat soy milk. 1 slice wholemeal toast with plum and cinnamon jam . Boiled egg . Coffee with 40 ml Hilo milk.
Snack 3 x Coffee with hilo milk.
Lunch: 1:30 2 slices wholemeal bread, 1 grilled with ~30 gm low fat cheese, 2 slices double smoked ham, tomato, and black olives (all the best bits out of a pizza
),and another toasted - 1/2 with vegemite and ½ with plum and cinnamon jam. 8 dates. Low fat apricot yoghurt. Coffee and milk.Dinner: 7:30 ~130 gm grilled rump steak. 1 slice fresh wholemeal bread. Lots of fresh veges: squash, carrot, celery, lettuce, tomato, snow peas, mushrooms – very colourful! 8 dates. Low fat apricot yoghurt. Green tea.
Exercise: 30 minutes Just cos the dog needed walking. My ankle would have been better without it.
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Britta Bear
New member
Hey Felici- Thank you so much for stopping by my journal
And on the eating sweets- In my opinion, it's perfectly fine, if you want it, and can control how often, without over indulging
There's a technique that is called Intuitive Eating and basically, it says HAVE those things, in moderation, if you are REALLY craving them. But also listen to your body, and see what else it needs. Often our bodies will tell us if they need veggies or fruit, and many times we are just so stuck on what our 'diet' is that we aren't paying attention to our natural diet.
But anyways, the point is a healthy diet does include those sweets, but in moderation. If we deprive ourselves from them, we not only feel MORE guilty when we give in and eat them, but we aren't ENJOYING our meals, and we aren't awknowledging the fact that we are HUMAN, not robots.
And on the eating sweets- In my opinion, it's perfectly fine, if you want it, and can control how often, without over indulging
There's a technique that is called Intuitive Eating and basically, it says HAVE those things, in moderation, if you are REALLY craving them. But also listen to your body, and see what else it needs. Often our bodies will tell us if they need veggies or fruit, and many times we are just so stuck on what our 'diet' is that we aren't paying attention to our natural diet.
But anyways, the point is a healthy diet does include those sweets, but in moderation. If we deprive ourselves from them, we not only feel MORE guilty when we give in and eat them, but we aren't ENJOYING our meals, and we aren't awknowledging the fact that we are HUMAN, not robots.