I know the real statistics. What is happening here is anecdotal. In the real world most people do not lose weight and keep it off. You seem to think that you have it figured out but you are still 60 pounds over weight and you as far as I know you have no way of knowing if you will lose all you need to lose and if you will keep it off. Odds are you won't. That is the grim reality of weight loss. Most people put it back on and then some. Why are you any different?
Struggling? I can help.
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I know the real statistics. What is happening here is anecdotal. In the real world most people do not lose weight and keep it off. You seem to think that you have it figured out but you are still 60 pounds over weight and you as far as I know you have no way of knowing if you will lose all you need to lose and if you will keep it off. Odds are you won't. That is the grim reality of weight loss. Most people put it back on and then some. Why are you any different?
Where do you think you need help?
Dude, what is this.... a philosophy discussion.
WTF are you waiting for? You just admitted that Mal has more weight to lose. You are also God-like when it comes to weight loss.
She answered your questions from the get go, looking for help.
HELP HER OR SHUT UP.
You keep spouting off about how great you are....
Well?
WTF are you waiting for? You just admitted that Mal has more weight to lose. You are also God-like when it comes to weight loss.
She answered your questions from the get go, looking for help.
HELP HER OR SHUT UP.
You keep spouting off about how great you are....
Well?
I haven't figured it all out yet and it's a long process to lose a significant amount of weight - it doesn't happen overnight... 192 lbs came off in about 17 months -I expect the next 50- 60 to take about 10 months or so -I'm not in a rush - I am always willing to learn something new. Do I think I've gone about my weight loss the right way, for the most part, yes, it hasn't been calorie deprivation, pills, surgery, over exercising or under exercising, that doesn't mean that I can't change my approach or make it more effective.
maybe -maybe not -but during this entire process, I've never once thought I was on a diet, not once said I was on a diet, and not once considered this to be a temporary change to my habits -it is a lifestyle change and I have built new habits - the n ew habits - I have no reason to not believe they won't stay with me for the rest of my life.
I don't know where you are getting that from.
You can only help people that really want to be helped. If she is losing weight and if she figures she can keep it off then she does not need my help.
If she needs my help and she wants it I will help her.
BTW Steve have you ever heard of the Dale Carnegie course? You may want to look into it. Are you always this nice to people? I bet if we were toe to toe you would behave a bit differently.
You are taking the right approach. If you get stuck or go off course in your journey drop me a line and I would be glad to help you.
I think you will probably be succesful.
Could you share with me what things brought about this change for you. A lot of people talk the talk but few ever walk the walk. Why do you feel you have and why do you think others have not? I really would like your insight on this. It ois success like yours that needs to be shared.
I am not the one debating. I offered help and I asked a few important questions that no one wants to answer.
Mal has asked for help but she seems to be doing fine so I will not tamper with her success. She seems to have figured it out. Most people are not successful and they struggle. Mal is breezing through this. She has probably employed methods similar to mine.
I explained what has to be done so that people will understand it. Go back to my first post.
I will give you a hint. I cannot give anyone the answer. They need to find it for themselves. I just help them do it. SO the answer is a bit different for everyone. Mal arrived at her success in her way. She proabaly worked long and hard at it before everything "clicked" for her. I can help people get to where people like Mal is now but I can help them get their sooner.
Mal is still on a journey and she may have to look back when it is over to see exactly how she got where she got. I can help provide a map that is unique for each person.
The only way to know if this will work is to try. What do you have to lose?
OK, please do advise us on how you can help us all.
aww gee thanks...
I've written about this elsewhere but it was about being ready to make the change.. before I started the expedition, I didn't eat unhealthily -just too many calories -I spent a lot of time researching and learning what constituted a healthy diet and found that 1200 calories wasn't it...
Knowledge andconsistency and takig it one day at time is what's led to whatever success I've had so far -and the quest for knowledge i everending.
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I already said I haven't figured it out completely -it's a daily challenge learn new things and to keep going forwards -I'm definitely not breezing thru "this"... It's a day to day adventure...
What methods do you employ?
How would you do that?
What exactly is this map?
I've asked multiple times for assistance and each time you tell me no - what are your methods -how can you get me closer to where I want to be sooner?
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ok ill be a guinea pig
im 300lbs
i have been obese for many years of life now
i am fat becuase i like to eat lots of food
i dont like excercise
i eat around 4000 calories a day
can you possibly enlighten me, ive tried all the fad diets ive tried excercise but i get tired, ive tried so many things but to no avail. i want to no the answers
im 300lbs
i have been obese for many years of life now
i am fat becuase i like to eat lots of food
i dont like excercise
i eat around 4000 calories a day
can you possibly enlighten me, ive tried all the fad diets ive tried excercise but i get tired, ive tried so many things but to no avail. i want to no the answers
I highly doubt it. If I'm irritated, I'll let you know....
On here or in person.
And you are extremely irritating. Take if for what it's worth, which isn't very much since you don't know me at all, nor do I know you..... but if we were toe to toe I'd tell you to shut your mouth.
Ya know; put up or shut up.
Why do you need someone to help in order to tell us what your weight loss strategy/philosophy is? If you truly cared, you'd converse like a normal person and tell us what you think you know.
It's becoming quite evident though that you aren't capable of this, so what do you expect this forum to think?
I am not here to give advice.
If you are 139 and not losing it is because you are not burning more calories than you are taking in. That is not advice that is a fact.
Asking for advice to something for which you already know the answer is a bit silly. You know what to do. Why are you not doing it?
If I were to advise you I would tell you to drop your cals to your BMR and bust your ass on an airdyne or an elliptical. If you would object to that and not comply I would ask you how important your weight loss goal is.
You could drop 9 pounds in 3 weeks if you are serious. How serious are you?
To think that I can just advise people without any back ground info on them shows the flawed logic of most weight loss gurus.
I can make some suggestion for your last 10 pounds but I won't because you should know what to do. I am more interested in why you have stopped your weight loss. Why do you think you have?
Normally I only work with obese and super obese people but what I just did with you is a small sample of what I do with the obese who are struggling.
I can't do it for them. All I can do is help them develop a mind set. Mal did this on her own. Most people are not that clever.
Steve, are you using deca? You seem really edgy.
Steve if we were toe to toe you'd be a real pussy.....cat.
Steve, this is not a strategy or a philosophy. It is a well investigated method. There is s difference but unless you chill out you won't get it.
If you want to see this work encourage some of the members here who are struggling to participate. Judging by your behavior so far you seem threatened and a bit paranoid. Switch to Sustanon.
That is interesting. You mention being ready. Was there one thing or a series of things than got you ready?
What do you think kept you from being ready to do it?
ok ill be a guinea pig
im 300lbs
i have been obese for many years of life now
i am fat becuase i like to eat lots of food
i dont like excercise
i eat around 4000 calories a day
can you possibly enlighten me, ive tried all the fad diets ive tried excercise but i get tired, ive tried so many things but to no avail. i want to no the answers
Why do you think you eat 4000 calories a day?
You say you eat lots of food. It is true that you ingest a lot of calories but in sheer volume are you eating a lot of food?
What foods are you eating?
Why do you suppose over eating is so important to you? This is a tough one so spend some time thinking about it. There is not right or wrong answer. The answer may be that you do not know. If that is the case then we need to figure out why you put over eating above your health and personal responsibilities.
We are going to get to the bottom of this.
Steve, are you using deca? You seem really edgy.
Steve if we were toe to toe you'd be a real pussy.....cat.
Steve, this is not a strategy or a philosophy. It is a well investigated method. There is s difference but unless you chill out you won't get it.
If you want to see this work encourage some of the members here who are struggling to participate. Judging by your behavior so far you seem threatened and a bit paranoid. Switch to Sustanon.
This says all I need to hear about you.....
Best of luck on this forum.
I cannot get you closer. That is totally up to you. I cannot tell you where you should be. That is up to you. As I understand it you have 60 pounds to lose. Your plan sounds solid. You seem to have the resolve. What is that is troubling you. As to my methods, listening and trying to understand is a big part of it. If you have a problem I don't see it. You have done really well. If there is something that is troubling you let me know. If it is of a very personal nature PM me. As far as I can tell so far you are doing as well as can be expected. Your plan is sound and your progress seems to be sustainable.
If you are worried about "blowing it" we can discuss that.
Thank you Steve. I am glad you are being a man about it.
Sustanon with some progesterone cream will keep you mellower and it will reduce the DHT and it will block the estrogen. Lots of guys think Deca is the bomb but it's not.
Your response was really dumb actually. You clearly do not have a deeper understanding of the body and the metabolism and how it all works together. Why is it that I was able to count the exact calories in my food and exercise, along with my RMR, and come out with the deficit being EXACTLY EQUAL to my weight loss for 8 months. But then I kept doing the same things (which dont involve starving and did involve a modest calorie deficit) and I stopped losing. Clearly the body does NOT work completely according to cals in v. out and the metabolism has a way of regulating itself that is not accounted for in your simplistic view. I've had my RMR tested and I know exactly what I burn in a day. I was curious if you knew anything I dont, but I can see you're very rude and VERY full of yourself (and lots of hot air). I really dont have time for reading hot air so thanks for nothing (though you DID TALK a very good game, you're really quite full of it).
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