Journey, Not A Destination
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He was a brilliant man. Not many could have sat down with Freud and knocked his socks off.
Synchronicity is an interesting theory. I never put serious thought into it though. I am more interested in psychology that leads to positive change, directly.
Britta Bear
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Synchronicity is pretty cool. I started reading There Are No Accidents by Robert Hopcke. It's funny how we started talking about Jung because I am about to go pick up some books on Jungian psychology(a little synchronicity maybe? hmm....Just kidding lol).
I was also pretty interested in his idea that spirituality is a cure for
alchoholism, he actually had alot of influence on the 12-step program...which i know nothing about other than that lots of addicts use it.
Learning about The Shadow was very interesting too. I am so aware of suppressed parts of my conscious now,and I have been able to apply the theory to a few things in my life, especially with the weight gain and eating disorder.
I was also pretty interested in his idea that spirituality is a cure for
alchoholism, he actually had alot of influence on the 12-step program...which i know nothing about other than that lots of addicts use it.
Learning about The Shadow was very interesting too. I am so aware of suppressed parts of my conscious now,and I have been able to apply the theory to a few things in my life, especially with the weight gain and eating disorder.
Venice girl
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Hi Steve! I hope your day is going great!
I see you're talking about Jung...he has some very interesting theories...although I'm usually more interested in philosophy than psychology.
I see you're talking about Jung...he has some very interesting theories...although I'm usually more interested in philosophy than psychology.
TomO
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Steve,
Thanks for the GREAT response. Sometimes I think money spent on personal trainers is a complete waste - they can really mislead you. My trainer's concentration is on bulking up (he has trouble even keeping on any weight), so he obviously didn't understand what to do with someone like me, who's got a LOT of weight to lose.
I've steadily been losing slightly over 3 lbs. a month since last July. Not nearly as aggressive as a lot of people would like, but I've done the quick-loss routine many times before, and as far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of time. I think my caloric intake is pretty well down now -- I'm generally managing a 400 to 600 calorie deficit, except on my rest days, when I'm close to maintenance.
I do end up with a couple of cheat days every month, but working out 6 days a week creates a good buffer for that.
No, actually I do HIIT on day1, weights on day 2, SS cardio on day 3, rest/light exercise day 4, then repeat. The big question here is whether it's better to do HIIT followed by weights the next day, or weights followed by HIIT the next day. My instincts are to go with the 1st option (HIIT, then weights), simply because my legs get much more sore from squats than from HIIT.
I really don't want to give up the HIIT, simply because I really dislike SS cardio and actually enjoy HIIT.
I like your two sessions -- I think I'll change my routine a bit to do that. No biceps/triceps? Wow, that surprises me. And it looks like the shrugs are useless for me at this stage.
OK, one last question -- I was doing decreasing sets, reducing by 10-20 lbs on each set, the theory being that that would keep me at my max for each set. Do you think it's better to keep the same weight on all the sets?
Thanks again for all your help!
Thanks for the GREAT response. Sometimes I think money spent on personal trainers is a complete waste - they can really mislead you. My trainer's concentration is on bulking up (he has trouble even keeping on any weight), so he obviously didn't understand what to do with someone like me, who's got a LOT of weight to lose.
I've steadily been losing slightly over 3 lbs. a month since last July. Not nearly as aggressive as a lot of people would like, but I've done the quick-loss routine many times before, and as far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of time. I think my caloric intake is pretty well down now -- I'm generally managing a 400 to 600 calorie deficit, except on my rest days, when I'm close to maintenance.
I do end up with a couple of cheat days every month, but working out 6 days a week creates a good buffer for that.
No, actually I do HIIT on day1, weights on day 2, SS cardio on day 3, rest/light exercise day 4, then repeat. The big question here is whether it's better to do HIIT followed by weights the next day, or weights followed by HIIT the next day. My instincts are to go with the 1st option (HIIT, then weights), simply because my legs get much more sore from squats than from HIIT.
I really don't want to give up the HIIT, simply because I really dislike SS cardio and actually enjoy HIIT.
I like your two sessions -- I think I'll change my routine a bit to do that. No biceps/triceps? Wow, that surprises me. And it looks like the shrugs are useless for me at this stage.
OK, one last question -- I was doing decreasing sets, reducing by 10-20 lbs on each set, the theory being that that would keep me at my max for each set. Do you think it's better to keep the same weight on all the sets?
Thanks again for all your help!
Philosophy is fun too.
I am great today, thanks. I hope you are well. Thanks for stopping in.
Venice girl
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I think I'll have to pm you one of these days...you're such a reliable source of information and I'm so confused, because everybody seem to tell me something different about exercise, calories and such things...
You are welcome.
With your few questions, I can honestly say that you are splitting hairs. If you want to do HIIT first, than so be it. In my original post, I wanted you to know that you could probably get away with doing one session of HIIT per week and one to two sessions of LISS. But if this is working for you, stick with it.
I love that you are bouncing calories from deficit to maintenance on non-training days. Smart man.
And slow and steady does win the race in this game, which it seems you have figured out through your own trials and tribulations.
There are so many ways you can periodize sets. I have done pyramiding down as you speak of here with success. However, for your given situation, I would rather see you stick with 5x5 of the same weight each set.
And no, no bis and tris right now. The idea while in a deficit is to train efficiently. Performing an exercise that isolates a muscle group is not efficient.
Anytime.
Don't forget, you can hear a million different people, but thankfully for us, we have the ability to choose who we listen to.
Not saying my way is always right..... but there are a lot of bogus people out there.
You can PM me, email me, come here.... whatever.
Venice girl
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Thank you Steve! *hugs Steve* It's great to have you here, you're my benchmark ! *hopes that the word benchmark is right*
wishes
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I am well, thought took me 4 pages to go back and find that comment lol. Man what a busy journal! :OHola Wishes! Very nice to see you in here.
I am well, and I hope you are too.
Im only here for the naked torso photos of course you realize, but the advice im sure is good as well
I am well, thought took me 4 pages to go back and find that comment lol. Man what a busy journal! :O
Im only here for the naked torso photos of course you realize, but the advice im sure is good as well
Busy as of late as I have come out of my shell and started posting in others journals. I am telling you, I could be a full time job.
There will be more photos to come.
Curvie Girlie
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Wow you're a superstar here, Steve!
TomO
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Again, I appreciate your advice, which I'm going to take.
I'll use this program for the next 2 - 3 months, and let you know how it goes.
I tried to give you some more rep points for your great responses, but it's telling me I have to spread it around some more before I do. So thanks are all I can give you at this point!
I'll use this program for the next 2 - 3 months, and let you know how it goes.
I tried to give you some more rep points for your great responses, but it's telling me I have to spread it around some more before I do. So thanks are all I can give you at this point!
Tom, something I rarely get into in this forum... but should more often is the idea of managing fatigue.
Even when you are primed for anabolism and hypertrophy through ample calories..... managing fatigue is extremely important. It importance multiplies as you begin to diet.
This said, you can't expect to hit the weights, full intensity, week in and week out. I would jump into the routine I outlayed slowly. Weekly, ramp up the weights in a gradual basis until weeks 5 or 6 you are really pushing everything you got. Once you hit this peak week, try to improve strength each week. As soon as you go 2 weeks with no progression in strength, I would drop the prescribes reps down to 3 in the program.
After you ride that out, take a week to recoup, then come back with the 5x5, starting a little heavier than you did the first time.
Follow me?
TomO
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Yep, I think I do. I probably started out too heavy -- fighting a major case of the DOMS today. I'm going to redesign my program with this in mind. Thanks!