There's really nothing to say to people who think the ECA stack is harmful in proper doses to healthy hearted individuals. Obviously if this isn't for you, don't do it. Fact is it's a well known supplement that, in double blind studies, DOES work exceptionally well with minimal side effects. If you're afraid of pills then perhaps you shouldn't take them. It's improper use that got ephedra the rap it has.
Agreed. It's the people who don't know how to follow instructions who F'ed it all up for everyone else.
Used appropriately, it's a very viable supplement.