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Hello,

From september 13 to october 13 I have to fast for that amount of time. It consists of waking up at 5 a.m. and having a good meal and then around 7 P.M i will eat again and break my fast. THen I am allowed to eat whatever I want until the next morning and cycle continues.

I dont know If I will be able to Lift during that 1 months, But I would love too. Should I cut during this time so I can lost like 5 lbs?
Also I beleive I would lose all my muscle that i gained?
What should I do?

Please let me know
Thanks
 
SG: I imagine you'll be celebrating Ramadan? The long and short of is that you won't be fueling your body during its peak metabolic phases, rather you'll be feeding it at the ebb of the metabolic phases (Right before bed). Is there any way you can reverse your schedule, IE: sleeping during the day and waking at night?

A month is a long enough that you'll likely see loss in size and strength.

My concern for you lifting/cardio training during this time is your body's lack of fuel which could lead to some exercise related problems. (IE: Dizziness, light headedness, nausea, lack of energy) This would be because you have nothing in your stomach.
 
if you are only having 2 meals a day and they are 14 hours apart, you should not lift weights.

you wont have any pwo meal so it will pretty much be futile and catobolic.

and yes, you are likely to lose a lot of your muscle because your diet is off and training is cut out.

what should you do? just be happy and relax :D we are both so young, there is so much time we have to progress and learn.
be constructive and get another hobby. because i havent been able to lift for around 3 months, i started to train my balance. i learned a lot too.
plus, after the month, you'l be reallllly eager to get back to lifting and have tons of ideas if our anything like me. :D
 
Ya I probably wont be able to lift much. But its not liek im hungry during the day, my stomach feels full but i cant drink water as well so i might pass out.

Do you guys think i should CUT? or eat regular foods with my family? or Eat healthy foods with lots of protein in my 2 meals?
 
its for the religious month of Ramadan. I dont have to do it, but im old enough that I should and I will so ya. Also i mean if im dying i can have water but if notthink is happening to me then, no water.

As for diet what should I do?
Also I was thinking of doing Bodyweight excercises? Would that help keep some muscle?
 
soccergod said:
its for the religious month of Ramadan. I dont have to do it, but im old enough that I should and I will so ya. Also i mean if im dying i can have water but if notthink is happening to me then, no water.

As for diet what should I do?
Also I was thinking of doing Bodyweight excercises? Would that help keep some muscle?
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I understand you and this religious need is a personal decision not subject to outside opinion--and dont allow it, if this is your spiritual pursuit.

In this sense follow the rules as outlined in your religion, try to get as much water as you can (most important), and eat when you can and when its allowed. Try to bunch the three (complex carbs, good fats, and protein) in one meal if you can. But the most important thing since food is gonna be scarce, is water. What are the rules of engagement in this situation, soccorgod?

Yes, energy is going to be low. I suggest a HIGHER rep scheme rather than a low rep scheme. Its less taxing on the central nervous system, and rest spaced out accordingly. Higher I mean 8 to 12.
 
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Hey chillen, thats for the heads up!

I am not allowed to have any water if im not in the state of pain, or death. In other if it isnt serious I am not going to break my fast. ANd my past times I have done this I never had to break a fast.

About water, ya I know thats going to be a problem. But I go to school throught out the day from 7 to 3:10. So I dont fell anything during those times because im busy and im not thirst either.

I usually workout after school so from 3:30 on, and if my workout will take longer because ill probably give myselft like 3 min breaks so I dont lose alot of energy, my workout should take like 1 hr 30 min.

I have to break my fast according to my mom around 7:30. Which isnt that bad , and I think I can do it.

I was thinking of doing liek:
Squats
bench press
LAt pull downs
bent over rows

Among those excercise the only excercise that makes me breath hard is Squats, and if I calm down the volume then I cna get through it easy. The rest dont make me breath hard or anything so I can do those.

How does that sound? Please more input
Thanks
 
soccergod said:
Hey chillen, thats for the heads up!

I am not allowed to have any water if im not in the state of pain, or death. In other if it isnt serious I am not going to break my fast. ANd my past times I have done this I never had to break a fast.

About water, ya I know thats going to be a problem. But I go to school throught out the day from 7 to 3:10. So I dont fell anything during those times because im busy and im not thirst either.

I usually workout after school so from 3:30 on, and if my workout will take longer because ill probably give myselft like 3 min breaks so I dont lose alot of energy, my workout should take like 1 hr 30 min.

I have to break my fast according to my mom around 7:30. Which isnt that bad , and I think I can do it.

I was thinking of doing liek:
Squats
bench press
LAt pull downs
bent over rows

Among those excercise the only excercise that makes me breath hard is Squats, and if I calm down the volume then I cna get through it easy. The rest dont make me breath hard or anything so I can do those.

How does that sound? Please more input
Thanks
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The diet in this situation is of course the limiting factor. I believe due to this, you want to provide just enough circumference of taxation on the muscles, but not over do it due to the severe depletion of nutrients and calories. If its a month long process, this IS enough time to cause canabolism, and if you train, this will cause a even more deficit at the same time; however, it provides a small--offset--in the sense that it is telling the body to keep the muscles it has, though you will only minimize the effect.

Since it appears after 7:30 is when you can eat (or am I having brain spasms), the most important thing to give yourself in this situation is complex carbs, along with as much protein you can obtain. Is whey protein powder and water considered water intake. I know this sounds like a silly question, but it is food.

Yes, do squats in this phase. You need its biological responses. BUt go just a tad higher in reps, to lower the burden slightly (higher than I normally recommend--in a nornal situation, but this isnt a normal situation in the average sense, since were talking a religious set of requirements)
 
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id do:
A:
squat
bench
row

B
deadlift
pullup
military press

thats 3 compounds each workout, basic, no bull**** workout.
 
How much are you allowed to eat at 7:30 is this limited in any way. Like meats, and other items. Or amount of calories?
 
Chille, yes after 7:30 I can have anythign I want.
In the morning before I start my fasting, I usually eat RICE, and MEAT, and glass of milk. I am thinking of adding like 2 SCOOPs of Protein in this milk.

Is that ok for morning meal?

Also I was thinking for my 7:30 meal, I eat 2 cups of oatmeal, tuna, 1 proten shake, and some nuts. Then like 30 min later have another meal?

I know that during this month, I will loose weight because of no nutrients, I dont care if I lose weight but I want it to be as low of muscle as possible. I would love to lose some fat lol.


Karky:
That looks like a good workout but I dont think I will do DEADLIFTS, they are really taxing. I was thinking:

A:
Squats
Bent over row
Bench press

B:
Lunges
db bench
LAt pull downs

C:
bulg squats
incline BB bench
cable rows

How that sound? Its kind of like wat im doing now except for CLEANs and DL
 
Long grain brown rice, and Whole wheat pita breads are good too. The oatmeal is good (make it two servings each serving is 1/2 a cup or about 300c total)

Make it a mixture of good complex carbs, good amount of protein, and good fats (flax seed oil, or fish oil, or Natural PB if you like PB). Drink water at this time as well, if this is allowed. Since you cant get it during the day, have it be a major side item when you eat--with whey if necessary and replace the milk, if you want)
 
ok well im 17 going to he a senior in High School. So school comes first for me and I need my sleep or I really wont be able to do anything. THe only times I have to eat anything are in the morning, and from 7:30 to 10:00 would be best.
I need about 2500 cals to maintain i beleive. I m 168 lbs right now.

About working out in the morning I am not a morning person, and I dont have acces to a gym in the morning. The only time I can lift is right after school.
Also the chicken breast and stuff is not ok in the morning becasue they are dry foods, I eat my moms cooking of chicken and beef because its not dry and wont kill me the whole day. Its not very bad in nutrients but she does make it out of vegetable oil. Some things I cant change so its ok.

I understand you 24 hr cycle but I cant eat at 4 a.m lol. That would suck. In my understadning::

Morning:
rice, and meat - 400-500 cals
Milk w/ 2 sccops protein - 300
almonds 1 oz - 130
1 banana - 100 cals

Its around 900-1000 calories which I can do easily no wories.

Afternoon:
2 cups of Oatmeal (1/3 cup = 100 cals) -- 600 cals
1 can of tuna - 250 cals
1 banana - 100 cals
som dates and almonds - 150

Another 1000 calories.

Then getting the rest of the 500 calories would be easy, I probably will have a small dinner and the 500 will be easy.

So I can work it out like that.

Hows that look?
 
The 7:30pm to 7:30pm cycle is an example, this can be easily swiched to 7:30a to 7:30a (do you see what I am saying?, view your days as 24 hour cycles, and try to surround your training--as close as--feasibly possible--after digestion---this is best, but if you cant arrange a different time close kin)

What this is doing is allowing you to view your days in hours, between your first and last meal in a 24 hour set, and then you can work in a WO to compliment this eating pattern. For example, you eat at 7:30p, then at 10P you go to bed, and then wake up, and eat again in the afternoon, so you ate twice in less than 24 hours, and then you work in a WO sometime in the afternoon, and then you eat again at 7:30p, and this cycle repeats itself. If you eat in the afternoon and then again in the evening is it possible to arrange and MAINTAIN a WO inbetween? In between afternoon and 7:30---this way you get a pre-workout meal and a post workout meal? (see what viewing at a 24 hour cycle allows, its real obvious)

IT can give you an eyeball view of your 24 hour pattern in the attempt to work with what you have available, and schedule your workout as BEST AS POSSIBLE. BUt your situation isnt that bad, though.

You DO have an opportunity to eat what you need. Plan each meal in the according to what your caloric needs are, and with the appropriate blend of complex carbs, protein, and good fats). PLAN AHEAD in advance as much as possible,,,,,,,and you will provide enough energy that you need.

Your mom allowing you to eat what your want and how much you want...........changes things completely on the diet side and energy side....though not optimal, its not starving yourself by any means.
 
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ok im really confused right now. CAn you give a example, that would be great.

I gues i didnt understand the 24 hr cycle.
Is there something wrong of my diet cycle?
Lol help me out
 
LOL nice chillen. I think you chilling a little to much.

Ya i can as much as i want after and before the designated times. Also about the time I can workout out it has to be after 3:10 because I like todo it then. So ur syaing I should have no problems with energy and such?
 
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