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- Thread starter soccergod
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Since I have a more grasp of your situation now, LOL. I retract the statements on higher rep range and your system being taxed more, becuase your allowed to eat at or reasonable over your MT, if you plan right and look correctly at your 24 hour pattern.
We should now revert back to a more basic reccomendation in training, in my opinion.
I just need to read better when trying to help, LOL
We should now revert back to a more basic reccomendation in training, in my opinion.
I just need to read better when trying to help, LOL
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i still dont think you understnad completely:
Here it is:
Wake up at 5 A.M
Eat 1st meal
Go to sleep
Then go to school
at 3:10 start my workout
Come home and chill
7:30 or 8:00 break my fast and eat 2nd meal
then 30 min later eat 3rd meal
GO TO SLEEP
Cycle repeats. So from 5 A.M to 7:30 P.M i DONT EAT a THING.
I workout at 3:10 P.M after school. SO my pre workout is my 5 A.M meal and post workout is at 7:30.
There is no afternoon meal because I cant eat.
Please read that again, I think ur confused.
Thanks
Here it is:
Wake up at 5 A.M
Eat 1st meal
Go to sleep
Then go to school
at 3:10 start my workout
Come home and chill
7:30 or 8:00 break my fast and eat 2nd meal
then 30 min later eat 3rd meal
GO TO SLEEP
Cycle repeats. So from 5 A.M to 7:30 P.M i DONT EAT a THING.
I workout at 3:10 P.M after school. SO my pre workout is my 5 A.M meal and post workout is at 7:30.
There is no afternoon meal because I cant eat.
Please read that again, I think ur confused.
Thanks
i still dont think you understnad completely:
Here it is:
Wake up at 5 A.M
Eat 1st meal
Go to sleep
Then go to school
at 3:10 start my workout
Come home and chill
7:30 or 8:00 break my fast and eat 2nd meal
then 30 min later eat 3rd meal
GO TO SLEEP
Cycle repeats. So from 5 A.M to 7:30 P.M i DONT EAT a THING.
I workout at 3:10 P.M after school. SO my pre workout is my 5 A.M meal and post workout is at 7:30.
There is no afternoon meal because I cant eat.
Please read that again, I think ur confused.
Thanks
YEP! Sure am........I admit it. I have your hours wrong....Again. Holy fricken crap ola!
THe same suggestion applies though, I reccommend analyzing the 24 hour period.
Okay, with chillen more wise now, (after banging head on coffee table--oh thats better!), just make an adjustment to your 24 hour visualation to: 5A to 5A.
Eat most of your calories in the morning as this has to carry you most of the day. To ensure you get enough energy eat alot of complex carbs, and good amounts of protein. And drink water then....at that time in morning, if this is okay.
From 5A to about 7:30p is just over 14 hours. Your in school and active during this period. There is alot of caloric burnen' going on here in this time frame. SO EAT WELL in the morning, as much as you feasibly can--I reccommend this because your situation is alot different than most.
Treat this as your pre-workout meal (there is no other choice), and eat big because of the lapse of hours and you are not able or not allowed to eat another meal until 7:30p in the evening.
Do your workout as you would in the afternoon
Then your 7:30p is your post workoutmeal..........finish off just a tad past MT line.
After your last meal (say 8:00P), then several more hours elapse (about 9 hours approx) before your get up at 5A, and repeat the process again.
I think I have your time frame right..........Geesh.........Im old ya know.....LOL
By George, I think I have the hours correct! MIRACLES HAPPEN!
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Though chillen is a tad slow today (a tad....who the hell ya foolen'?), I admire your quest to solve a rather unique feeding problem. You can eat twice, and you have a good idea how many calories to consume, so you have to try to split these calories between two meals, and you have to do the best you CAN to give your body what it needs with yout restrictions
+rep for your Thirst for knowledge to try to work with the problem situation and trying to work out a remedy. Commendable.
Best regards,
Chillen
+rep for your Thirst for knowledge to try to work with the problem situation and trying to work out a remedy. Commendable.
Best regards,
Chillen
Keep it simple for the time being, and with comound lifts for the most part.
FBW is best--even with this situation. as you are getting the calories you need.
By full body I mean include your tri and bi.
Chest
Tri
Bi
back
legs.
Stick with basic compound exercises as much as possible
Monday Wednesday and Friday, rest on weekends. Or a comparable or like days routine.
I recommend a mid frame rep range (or basic area approximate), of 6 to 10, for this period.
Once 10r is met on the first set, increase 5 pounds on the effected exercise. Progressive nature in training---is THE essential factor in weight training.
Chillen
FBW is best--even with this situation. as you are getting the calories you need.
By full body I mean include your tri and bi.
Chest
Tri
Bi
back
legs.
Stick with basic compound exercises as much as possible
Monday Wednesday and Friday, rest on weekends. Or a comparable or like days routine.
I recommend a mid frame rep range (or basic area approximate), of 6 to 10, for this period.
Once 10r is met on the first set, increase 5 pounds on the effected exercise. Progressive nature in training---is THE essential factor in weight training.
Chillen
Hey I've been following along soccergod. It sounds like you'll have a tough time ahead. I know I don't ahve the discipline to eat on a schedule like that.
But anyway, I wanna wish you good luck man!
But anyway, I wanna wish you good luck man!
thanks guys!
Do you think the Hang cleans would be ok? I do 5x3 so i dont know
I dont want to DL because it takes alot of energy. Ill probably stick with what I got now but take out DLs. If I see its too much ill drop excercises
Im thinking of doing 3x10, 4x8, and dropping 5x5. But I dont know what other rep set to add? Help?
Do you think the Hang cleans would be ok? I do 5x3 so i dont know
I dont want to DL because it takes alot of energy. Ill probably stick with what I got now but take out DLs. If I see its too much ill drop excercises
Im thinking of doing 3x10, 4x8, and dropping 5x5. But I dont know what other rep set to add? Help?
DL pretty important though (you mean Deadlift right?), I'd say more so than hamstrings. Are you gonna do squats? I'd just switch it up with squats.
Ya i know they are important, hmm i guess I can add that but that would mean I either have to do 2 leg excercise on the day of the Dead Lifts or just dead lifts.
I do bulg squats, reg squats, and lunges. One would need to be taken out. Anyways i dont know, let me know.
What about Cleans?
I do bulg squats, reg squats, and lunges. One would need to be taken out. Anyways i dont know, let me know.
What about Cleans?
Ya i know they are important, hmm i guess I can add that but that would mean I either have to do 2 leg excercise on the day of the Dead Lifts or just dead lifts.
I do bulg squats, reg squats, and lunges. One would need to be taken out. Anyways i dont know, let me know.
What about Cleans?
Ehh, sorry bro I'm a bit confused. Can you psot the workout you intend to do?
Wait is this it?
Squats
bench press
LAt pull downs
bent over rows
I figure this'll be fine. Just next workout do
Deadlift
Shoulder press
seated row
Since you're eating less I would just do the most important ones. Switch between the most impotant ones. Squat/Dead, Horizontal/Vertical Push, Horizontal/Vertical pull. If you really watned to also do bulg squats and lunges, just do bulg squats with squat/dead and lunges with the other, different days.
But, I've never done any kind of fasting like this before, So I don't know how much energy you'd have, that's why I'd just keep the exercises to a minimum.
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Cleans... meh. I wouldn't do hang cleans. If any cleans at all do power cleans, and just don't do deads or squats for that day.
your making this more difficult than it needs to be.
-if your going to train, i suggest you maintain or bulk. 2 meals a day isnt optimal for liposis(not to mention you'l lose more muscle)
-suck it up and deadlift ;D
like karky said:
A
squats
bench
rows
B
deads
pullups
military press
you can use 3x10, 3x12,4x10, or even 5x10(waterbury used this)
-eat a huge meal in the morning; at least 1/2 your calories for the day
you said you can eat whatever/whenever you want after 7:30?
in that case,
-eat a good pro/carb meal at 7:30
-workout around an hour later(or whenever you'r comfortable)
-eat a large post workout meal with simple carbs and protein
-eat as often as possible after your workout (as long as you stay in your caloric allowances)
you'l do fine. just dont overdo it
-if your going to train, i suggest you maintain or bulk. 2 meals a day isnt optimal for liposis(not to mention you'l lose more muscle)
-suck it up and deadlift ;D
like karky said:
A
squats
bench
rows
B
deads
pullups
military press
you can use 3x10, 3x12,4x10, or even 5x10(waterbury used this)
-eat a huge meal in the morning; at least 1/2 your calories for the day
you said you can eat whatever/whenever you want after 7:30?
in that case,
-eat a good pro/carb meal at 7:30
-workout around an hour later(or whenever you'r comfortable)
-eat a large post workout meal with simple carbs and protein
-eat as often as possible after your workout (as long as you stay in your caloric allowances)
you'l do fine. just dont overdo it
SoccorGod, You are on a roll for a quest for knowledge. +rep, you deserve it.
Your Want-o-Meter is high, and for that you deserve an extra push
By the way PB he cant workout past 7:30, he works out before that but after school. So the morning meal has to be the main meal (or preworkout if you will), and the 7:30 the postworkout meal. In this situation.
ROCK ON, BROTHA!
Your Want-o-Meter is high, and for that you deserve an extra push
By the way PB he cant workout past 7:30, he works out before that but after school. So the morning meal has to be the main meal (or preworkout if you will), and the 7:30 the postworkout meal. In this situation.
ROCK ON, BROTHA!
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