Disciple's Run

Disciple said:
word? cool man thank you well i am proud to say that yesterday was drug and alcohol free :D i had alot of help though especially from a spicy hot latina chick on the site :D thanks...i ate good yesterday and i have my oatmeal right now :D i just need to get my but to the gym only thing is i am scared of what that scale will say.............UGGGGHHHH i hate being fat.......
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hahahaha you're killin me! im glad yesterday was a sucess.. lets make a pattern!!!! have you started journaling? i started on monday.. just random thoughts food logging and prayers :):willy_nilly:
 
In response to, "how will I know if I'm making progress?"

Faith.

Have faith man.

Faith in the fact that if you consistently adhere to the small steps day in and out, weight will head in the direction it's supposed to.

The small steps ensure that you're expending more calories than you're eating each day and if you're in a calorie deficit, your body has no choice but to lose weight.
 
DarkWhispers said:
Trash your scale.

Lock that shit in your closet and don't look back. You're allowing yourself to be an emotional slave to it. You base how you feel about yourself and your progress solely on what the scale says.

What you should be basing your emotional well being and sense of accomplishment on is the steps you took today. Have a checklist if you will:

- I ate my target calories

- When I got hungry and wanted to binge, I simply loaded up on high nutrient density foods that are low in calories such as spinach, broccoli, carrots, snow peas, string beans, fruits, etc.

- I did some form of exercise today which will help expend additional calories and improve my health and strength

- I read over my list of values and goals when I woke up and before I went to sleep to keep my "unconscious eye" on the prize

On and on it goes.

You see, progress doesn't come from the scale. It's a cause & effect relationship. What the scale says is an effect of various causes. If you focus on the right causes each day, the scale has but no choice to be effected positively.

It's really that simple.
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Geeeze, real talk right here. I may need to trash my new scale for a hot minute. I have been getting on it in the moring and it can make or brake my mood regarless the effort from the day prior..
 
A_CRUCE_SALUS said:
hahahaha you're killin me! im glad yesterday was a sucess.. lets make a pattern!!!! have you started journaling? i started on monday.. just random thoughts food logging and prayers :):willy_nilly:
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do i have to lol....i hate journaling its a nother project i have to kleep up with
 
DarkWhispers said:
In response to, "how will I know if I'm making progress?"

Faith.

Have faith man.

Faith in the fact that if you consistently adhere to the small steps day in and out, weight will head in the direction it's supposed to.

The small steps ensure that you're expending more calories than you're eating each day and if you're in a calorie deficit, your body has no choice but to lose weight.
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word thanks DW i wanna call you dark wing duck lol any one ever watch that show? ok i am gunna weigh today just to see the damage then i will only weight once a week how is that?
 
Just don't let the number on the scale dictate your mood. Good or bad.
DW is right. Do the rights steps and the weight will have no choice but to go. Have faith.

never watched it but remember it.
 
word....i just ate a salad for lunch and i will eat another pack of oatmeal here in about an hour that will put me at like 800 cals then i will eat dinner too :D
 
Let's be real here.

If you're eating under 2000 calories per day at 500 lbs, there's no possible way you can't be dropping weight. It's science.

Fat is energy. If there's a shortage of energy, your body has nothing it can do but shed fat. Fat/energy can't be maintained in a shortage.

So when you binge, you binge big.

No?
 
Disciple said:
word....i just ate a salad for lunch and i will eat another pack of oatmeal here in about an hour that will put me at like 800 cals then i will eat dinner too :D
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So 800 cal thurout the day then dinner, like what 300 or 400 cal?? That not nearly enough. What about healty snacks and some dang protien brotha thruout the day. You will crash and burn if you only have 1000 cal a day. I know I would. Dont be scared of food. We gotta deal with it. I had a hella hard time last night with the corned beef. I should have never made it. Its super salty and its not a lean meat to begin with. Good thing is, I only put a few red potatoes with it so the rest of the fam gobbled that up and I stuck with the veggies and my reg portion of the meat..blahhhhhhhhh soo salty!! I threw the rest away. Anyways, we have to be open to experimenting and cooking, yessss cooking. We can still count calories as we should but you know you should have more calories than what it seems you are taking in. :hat:
 
A_CRUCE_SALUS said:
So 800 cal thurout the day then dinner, like what 300 or 400 cal?? That not nearly enough. What about healty snacks and some dang protien brotha thruout the day. You will crash and burn if you only have 1000 cal a day. I know I would. Dont be scared of food. We gotta deal with it. I had a hella hard time last night with the corned beef. I should have never made it. Its super salty and its not a lean meat to begin with. Good thing is, I only put a few red potatoes with it so the rest of the fam gobbled that up and I stuck with the veggies and my reg portion of the meat..blahhhhhhhhh soo salty!! I threw the rest away. Anyways, we have to be open to experimenting and cooking, yessss cooking. We can still count calories as we should but you know you should have more calories than what it seems you are taking in. :hat:
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in all honesty i have stuffed my face so far with the amount of water i am drinking too i am full i will have to force myself to eat the oatmeal later and dinner as well i shouldnt eat if i am not hungry right>?
 
You're 500 lbs.

Yet you say you're forcing yourself to stuff down food b/c you aren't hungry and you're not even eating half of what your body needs. Not even close.

What do you propose is maintaining your weight?

Is it your binges?
 
DarkWhispers said:
You're 500 lbs.

Yet you say you're forcing yourself to stuff down food b/c you aren't hungry and you're not even eating half of what your body needs. Not even close.

What do you propose is maintaining your weight?

Is it your binges?
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i think so ....this stuff may sound silly guys but i am just being honest....i think my binges and just not eating the right stuff see at lunch today i had a choice of Jasons Deli and a salad or a chinese buffet i chose the salad instead.... (I owned my choices) :D and just now i ate oatmeal i mean dont get me wrong i am not so miserably ful i wanna cry but im just not hungry eaither but now i am getting hungry lol i will write more later trying to work
 
The fact that is worrying me is: To maintain 500 lbs requires an awful lot more energy than what you're saying you're eating.

So either you're not telling us everything you're eating.

Or you're eating a lot during your binges and you're either forgetting about that or only telling us about your good days.

This disconnect needs to be bridged if you're going to lose weight.
 
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ok so every thing i ate yesterday...

1 pack oatmeal breakfast 100 calories

lunch big chef salad 580 calories

snack oatmeal 100 calories

dinner 3 grilled chicken breast 450 calories

later a can of veggie soup 300 calories

4 cheese sticks (the white cheese snacks for kids) 300 calories


total 1830 calories......i know thats not 3000 but its pretty good right?
 
DarkWhispers said:
The is the fact that is worrying me. To maintain 500 lbs requires an awful lot more energy than what you're saying you're eating.

So either you're not telling us everything you're eating.

Or you're eating a lot during your binges and you're either forgetting about that or only telling us about your good days.

This disconnect needs to be bridged if you're going to lose weight.
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no way man i wouldnt lie....i would be getting no where if i just made this junk up....i know the truth is the only thing thats gunna help me
 
I'm not suggesting you're lying. But people can fool themselves to the point they believe just about anything.

You listed that you ate 1800 calories yesterday.

You honestly feel that you eat that level of calories every single day of the week?

Because if you do, what you're saying is:

a) Your body is magic and can create energy (fat) our of nothing

b) You have some sort of medical condition that is unheard of to date

With regards to (a), to maintain 500 lbs requires at least 3 times the amount of food you're eating, if not more.

With regards to (b), obese individuals enter clinics or are researched more than just about any other subset of the population and there's never been a person who, once placed on a clinically controlled diet, didn't lose weight.

I'm not being a hard ass here. I'm trying to get to ONE OF the core issues at play here.
 
DarkWhispers said:
I'm not suggesting you're lying. But people can fool themselves to the point they believe just about anything.

You listed that you ate 1800 calories yesterday.

You honestly feel that you eat that level of calories every single day of the week?

Because if you do, what you're saying is:

a) Your body is magic and can create energy (fat) our of nothing

b) You have some sort of medical condition that is unheard of to date

With regards to (a), to maintain 500 lbs requires at least 3 times the amount of food you're eating, if not more.

With regards to (b), obese individuals enter clinics or are researched more than just about any other subset of the population and there's never been a person who, once placed on a clinically controlled diet, didn't lose weight.

I'm not being a hard ass here. I'm trying to get to ONE OF the core issues at play here.
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no no no i dont eat that every day...lol sometimes i choose the buffet that was me doing good....i did do good right :D maybe??
 
You did good. Now the hard part is making the right choice on a consistent basis. Maybe to help get you started. write down everything you put in your mouth for 2 weeks in this diary. On good days and bad days. Be brutally honest. What you will discover is that the act of having to write it down forces you to make the better choice. Seeing it in Black and White is sometimes all the motivation you need. Accountability is a bitch :)
 
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