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[reb1]

rjm,
if i was you i would keep going to you get to the weight you want to be. as i am sure you don't ever want to do this again do you ?
You have done so well and lost so much weight so keep going so you can be happy with the weight you want to be
sorry thats my 2 cents anyway
p.s when you finish please continue to post as i love reading all your posts
Lizzie
i will sent some good thoughts you way so you can be at goal by Oct
i got a new program and my weights have changed a tiny bit it was my fruit and crackers that were the biggest change did have 3 fruit & 8 crackers
but now have 2 fruit and only 5 crackers. I am going away on holidays friday so i am not starting my new program till the 10 july.

 

[MagicLea]

TASM82 - Gosh we all know someone like that. I wonder if the broadcast will be quite so loud when you are slim... or perhaps technical difficulties will result in a break in transmission!!!

 

[rjm]

Thanks reb, but I really couldn't handle it any more so just had the increased portions for lunch. I was doing the walking around the house just about ripping my hair out thingy, and when I get like that it is only a matter of time till I break. I am only 3kg's heavier than when I last started the re-feed, and I think this is a better option than breaking the program and ruining the good work I have so far achieved. I am hoping that I might have a little bit more weight loss while on the re-feed, but if I don't that's ok. I am fitting back into all my clothes ( which was one of my main issues), and if I ever do gain any weight again, I think I will try to limit going back on the program to 2 weeks at a time, then do re-feed. Going back on this for a second, or third time is really so much harder than the first time. When I started the first time I was much bigger and I think it was easier as I had much more (fat) to sustain me on the limited amounts of food.
Tasm82 & fornight, I can't believe how horrible people can be. Don't let them get to you, just show them by losing heaps of weight and making them really jealous. I was really lucky. Everyone around me is so supportive whenever I go on this.
Anyway everyone. Have a great day.
Talk to you soon

 

[asyoz]

Lea, The broadcast will continue, unfortunately. Just the station will change.

Tasm82. Not sure you want to read this, but I'll say it anyway. Everyone's thinking it (even you, if you're honest with yourself). This person isn't your friend. Not really. Your friend wouldn't sabotage you. They'd be your cheer squad. It doesn't matter what you do, how thin you are, or anything else, she'll still find fault. Promise.

I had a friend like that once. We shared everything. Secrets, thoughts wishes, etc. We were the BEST of friends. I didn't even realise that she always had me come to her house before we went out anywhere, and some days when I got there she'd mysteriously have a headache and we couldn't go out. It wasn't till MUCH later that I realised she was having me come over so she could see what I was wearing and whether she wanted to 'be seen' with me that day.

Sometimes when we're down on ourselves, and face it, all us overweight people are, whether we admit it or not, sometimes we cling to things. Whether we cling to the last piece of chocolate cake or a friend who's not really, it's the same thing.

It's a compulsion. We aren't 'worthy' of having health, fitness and GOOD, TRUE FRIENDS. Or are we?

You will, one day, come to the realisation that this person isn't really your friend. the scariest thing in hell will be cutting ties and letting yourself free from her. Know why it's scary?

Two reasons, firstly you've become comfortable. You're comfortable in the knowledge that you have a 'best friend' especially when you're too xxx (insert deficiency here) to deserve one. And secondly, you're internally TERRIFIED that you'll never find another friend. I mean, who else would want someone perpetually on a diet? (or some other reason)

I'm sorry if this comes across harsh, it's not meant to. I'm just vocalising your internal voice. Don't tell me I'm not. It's the voice inside all of us. I'm not really bitter, even if it sounds that way, I'm just a realist where these things are concerned.

You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.

Not until you let yourself have the keys, at any rate.

asy

PS: we ALL know the Eleanor Roosevelt quote:
"No-one can make us feel inferior without our consent".

 

[L-Jay]

Everyone who is having trouble with unsuppportive "friends" I too can relate. Lets just say, you will show them. Because Cohens works. Stick to your guns and stick it to 'em. When they start noticing how great you look, they'll start checking out what you eat. Then they'll make comments like "no wonder you have lost so much weight, you arent allowed to eat hardly anything." Had a "friend" say that to me and she added Oh I'd be eating much more vegetables, but I'd probably not eat that much meat" Anyway, I stood back and looked at her and thought to myself "look at you, look at me - whose diet is working?" Girls the proof is in the pudding.

I have a couple of insanely jealous people in my life. One has to copy everything I do\buy. I never know if she is going to say hello or snub me when I see her or not. The other one gossips about me behind my back and has tried to turn my friends away from me. This by the way has gone on for years. She commented after I'd lost a bunch of weight that I had changed, I had more confidence etc. Funnily enough, It was her perception of me that had changed. I am civil to these people, but dont put myself in a position where I let them in any more. My true friends have stuck by me. Incidentally I've had her tell me things like I'm so obnoxious she's felt like hitting me. (that was after I had phoned her to try and make peace - waste of time) These people are so insecure and pathetic, they really dont bear thinking about.
Always hold your head up. Have a big smile and wipe the floor with them. One thing these people cant stand is when they see you getting on with your life, being happy, and not paying attention to their childish games. If you act confident, you can convince yourself you are, and you can definetely fool them. Just remember, if they have to scrutinize us so intently, what life have they got? They seriously need to get one. Obviously they arent happy people. We are. We have real friends. We have a life.

I could shock you with lots of awful things these people have done to me. But honestly why dwell on it. When we pay attention, and feel upset, they are achieving exactly what they want. Its a total waste of time. The best thing is to focus on everything that makes us happy in life. Dont allow room for negativity. Fill you life with good stuff.
Lizzi would be very interested to hear about the course
Rjm you need to do what feels right for you. You know your limitations, and you just might avoid wasting a lot of time like I have. Hope you will still drop in from time to time. Will miss you
asyoz read your blog - good stuff. Just something about the cost. When I switched to cohen food, we saved on average around $50 a week on food. So it more than pays for itself and if youre on it long enough, actually saves money.

 

[mumbine]

not good

hi all,

I had fish and chips today I'm so cross. My kids are with their grandparents, whenever this happens it's usually an excuse to pamper myself with food. Something i really need to overcome. This often happens after my first week on a diet too! What's going on with me. Also, i've got all my PMS symptoms and no sign of the actual event. Get on with it i say, get these ragin hormones out of my system.

Okay, going into hibernation. You might not see me for a couple of days. Sorry for the pessimistic post, it's good to vent though isn't it?

 

[L-Jay]

dont worry mumbine we all understand how you feel here. Love your avatar.

I have a new goal: to get to 79.5kgs in 4 weeks. Thats 6kgs, so I've set my no deviations ticker for 4 weeks. I am desperate to get under 80kgs. I cant believe I actually got to 69. 5 at one stage. I need to see some more good results over the next few weeks, otherwise I know I'm going to get frustrated.

 

[4ukids]

Hi, I am new and I am going to start the cohen diet as soon as they send me all the paper work. I am so nervous that I will not be able to do it, I am scared that everyone is going to wait and laugh when I slip up. One question I do have is... do you really lose so much weight fast??? I just keep thinking it will not happen for me like that and I will not stay motivated. Cheers

 

[L-Jay]

Hi, I am new and I am going to start the cohen diet as soon as they send me all the paper work. I am so nervous that I will not be able to do it, I am scared that everyone is going to wait and laugh when I slip up. One question I do have is... do you really lose so much weight fast??? I just keep thinking it will not happen for me like that and I will not stay motivated. Cheers

Welcome to the forum!! Most of us do lose weight fast doing Cohens. There are a small percentage that dont. You can find out a bit about that as you read through a recent post from Lizzi. No one will laugh, because you wont slip up. Just follow the plan 100% and you will be so amazed at the results. I have never seen another way that is so effective, and believe me, I've tried many.

 

[the old me]

computer problems

hmm might not be on much as I am having some probs with my keyboard which seems to be unrecognised by my PC. I have tried my wireless keyboard and my normal keyboard but neither work. So I am on my daughter's PC and its a rare opportunity as she is always using it. I am still on track thanks Lizzie and LJay. A mere two days but two days never the less. I'll pop in when I can and try to get the jolly computer working again. pffffft computers!

 

[spangebabe]

CAN ANYONE HELP ME SS versus COHENS??

Hi there, My name is Ange and im from New Zealand, i have just stumbled across this site searching the Cohens program. 2 years ago i joined Sureslim and have not done well on it and have actually gained more weight, im actually at point of desperate now,ive had weight problem last 3 years now due to a bad bout of depression and medication i was put on. I can see the fantastic resutls of cohens and reading these forums it sounds great, the only concern is that is is very similar to Sureslim, it costs me nearly $1,000 in NZ to join Cohens and that is similar to what i paid out to sureslim, i have to get a loan for cohens,so financially it will be struggle , but just need to get on with life and the weight is holding me back, i dont go out anymore, see my friends, i dont date etc, just want to know if any of u on here know if it is just the same as Sureslim??? i can give a brief account of what i do on sureslim if u wish. any response would be great, just dont want to pay all the money to cohens to find out that it is just the same, kind regards ange xo

 

[Momiji]

lizzi: My 2nd month weigh in was 84kg and total lost was 11kg. Ganbatte ne is japanese and its sort of like an encouragement to ask you to do your best. and p(^-^)q is just a face showing that. Haa haa

rjm : Good luck on your refeed =)


fornight : I am facing the same problem as you too, I am having this training for 3 days next week and lunch is provided. I wonder how am I going to get thru that without looking like a weirdo(not held in the office so if I stay indoor for lunch its weird and if I join them at the buffet and eat my own food it will be weird too).

asyoz : Your fren really do sound like a bitch especially the part about making you go to her house to check what you are wearing. You are worthy of better friends. =p Maybe after your diet, do the same thing to her so she will know how it feel like. Haa haa

mumbine : Dun let a little slip pull you down, just concentrate and stay focus.

4ukids : Welcome~! The weight loss is much faster as compared to all the other diet as long as you do everything the right way. So dun worry, you will surely be motivated.

spangebabe : Dun really know much about the Sure Slim program, do you mind telling us more so we can compare for you?

 

[dilfizzle]

Gosh, I feel like I have been in another world not being able to Post.

How is everyone????
It took a little while to catch up on the Posts and now I forgot what to say to whom...Just letting you know I am around and still "Cohenetting".

I went for my blood test, the 4 week one, on Saturday. So hopefully, nothing bad shows up!

I have noticed a huge reduction around the thighs, waist and hips (more the waist than anything), but nothing really happening around the bust. I remember a little while back someone or a few mentioning a huge reduction around the bust...Should I be concerned it’s not happening to me?

Before I forget, RJM it is really your decision...If you feel like you can't cope, then don't let all the good work you have done be thrown out. Perhaps, do the refeed and then consider what your next option is at a later date. I must admit, I would love to be in that position - the position to go back and forth between the two.

Now, I am not sure if you all know, but I am getting married in 12 months time and I have to start looking for a dress! The daunting experience is where do I find a good dressmaker that is willing to deal with my body shape now and accommodate me when I am no longer this weight?

I have found the dress I want, well, I have mentally drawn it and want a dressmaker to make it! For anyone that has been in this position, or is going through it, what is your advice?

spangebabe - With regards to you Sureslim question, I was on SS and well, I lost some weight but I didn't really find my appetite was suppressed!
I started doing this as the last measure for me to lose weight and mind you with a lot of hesitation, but this forum was such an eye opener!

It is not easy...You really have to be willing to put in the slog! However, what I have lost so far on the program after 4 weeks, I did not lose at SS in 4 months! That isn't to bag SS, but I know the lady that started SS was a Client of Dr Cohen, hence, the similarity between the programs!

It is really up to you, but I don't regret the decision I have made. I have had so many compliments, and after 4 weeks I need to go and buy some new work pants!

 

[beebee1]

4ukids. From my 20 days of cohen experience it really does work. You need to be organised, focussed and follow your programm 100%, all aspects of it including the water intake.I found it useful to read all the postings on this forum from the beginning as you can learn so much from other peoples experience. Congratulations on taking the first step.

 

[asyoz]

Dilfiddle,

If you get stuck with the dressmaker, let me know. My mum's a wedding dress designer in Melbourne. Well, she was, before she retired. I'm fairly sure there's no way in daylight she'd make a dress again (it's getting too much for her) but she may be able to help you with a pattern, or deciding on a style that's suitable.

What you need to find is a dressmaker who can sew fairly quickly, book her in, buy your fabric and get your style done, and have her simply make up a calico test dress to make sure you like the style. Some things, like the train and skirt (assuming you're having a big skirt) can be made in advance, as it's pretty much the same, within a few sizes, its sorta like curtains, just means you bunch up more. But the skirt is often where the tedious work is, especially if there's many layers.

The bodice shouldn't take more than a few days to finish. You should, if you've booked it properly, be able to literally go in a couple/three weeks before the wedding and get the final measurement done and bodice fitted in plenty of time.

Whatever you do, don't go in now, a year ahead of time, and have something made that will have no hope of fitting then, you're setting yourself up for a fall. You'll either sabotage your diet in order for the dress to fit, or be upset that the dress isn't remodelable.

Hope this helps.

asy

 

[asyoz]

By the way, if you want a really magnificent dress, you know, classic style, hand beaded, train, duchess satin, etc, worth about 10k, to borrow (size roughly 16) let me know.

So long as you're prepared to have it dry cleaned by a wedding dress cleaner afterward, you'll be welcome to borrow it.

asy

 

[lizzi1]

I am just making a quick post now because I don't think I will have time in the morning. I will be going away until Friday night so you won't be hearing from me in between. The food won't be a problem, I will have facilities for cooking, I know the area and the shops, and there will be no one who will pressure me to eat - so that is all good! I cannot wait until the time comes when I can simply pack my bags and go without the extra preparation. This time was a bit busier because there was house cleaning to do - I am renting and there is an inspection while I am away ( I do dislike them so intensely and really dislike people i don't really know coming into my house to look around.) But everything is falling into place so I am pleased.

rmj: Looks like you have made your decision and I understand where you are at. What I would want for you is to be in the position where you can just get on with life without thinking about having to go back - because you know how hard that is. But you know for yourself what is best and all I can say is: enjoy refeed! ... because you know what that leads to (O I am so envious!) If you still feel the same in the morning, then go for it.

To everyone having a tough time with friends, that's not easy. You all deserve people who you can depend on. Be confident in yourself because it is your life and they will get it eventually as they see the change.

L-Jay: I'd love to tell you about the course I did. Will have to wait until I get back though. I won't forget. Just realized how many posts you have made! Wow! And rmj just passed the hundred too. Both of you have contributed so well to the forum.

4ukids: Welcome, and doing this is a really good decision as it will change lots of things for you. The first 4 weeks will really sell you on it!

spangebabe: Good to hear from you. This is stricter than Sureslim and it appears more people manage to keep it off in the end.

Momiji: Thanks for the interpretation and for the encouragement - much appreciated. And now that I know what it means, I am smiling at the face. I am not really good at computer shorthand. Would you believe that after all these posts I still haven't worked out how to put an avatar in or even a smilie face - and I am only guessing at the shorthand like lol. Yet I can use some complicated programs - doesn't seem consistent does it? And for the 11kgs, as long as your body keeps up the pace which usually happens, you are so well on your way. Time will pass, just stay with it and keep enjoying the results.

dilfizzle: Good to hear from you and I am glad you are still on track. Just looking at your ticker and you should be at your right weight in plenty of time for a dressmaker. So start the process going and when the time comes, it should all go to time. And congrats on the coming wedding.

the old me: Glad to see the no deviation moving in the right direction again - good for you!

Well I need to be up early so I'm off for some Cohen style sleep. Catch you all when I get back,

lizzi

 

[L-Jay]

Finally some movement on the scale - in the right direction. My goal of 79.5 in 4 weeks is looking a lot more achievable now.

dilfizzle I've heard that the last place people lose weight is usually the first place they put it on. Dont know if this is of any help. It certainly explains my pear-shape

Lizzi enjoy your time away. Inspections are a pain.

 

[asyoz]

spangebabe:[/COLOR][/B] Good to hear from you. This is stricter than Sureslim and it appears more people manage to keep it off in the end.

Hey Lizzi,

Thanks for your post, I was wondering, I know I asked previously, but just in case you missed it, do you know of anywhere that we can see what the keep-it-off stats?

Also, congrats on your loss, it's fantastic. I haven't started yet, have to have the blood test etc, but seems I have quite a bit to lose.

Also, I've been trying to find anyone who 'discounts the theory' on the net, but i can't find anyone. Is it because there are no detractors, or is it because I can't find them? I just like to read a both sides view before I commit.

asy

 

[*sunshine*1]

Hi everyone!

I usually don't post until my ticker moves - It's just a bit of incentive for me but there's so many new posts that I've been reading and so many things I wanted to say! Strap yourselves in for a LOOOONG post. Anyway, official weigh in is on Sunday and hopefully there is ticker movement and I'll try to keep that post short and sweet!

Magic Lea and Mumbine - Don't worry about your slip up. Just get back on the horse and let it strengthen your resolve not to do it again. Don't let one incident ruin all your good work.

RJM - My decision would be just to keep going. It's so hard, I know. But if you decide after you've done the refeed that there's more weight you would like to lose, you'll have to go through this for a third time! Imagine the pain of that! Might as well to continue to suffer the pain while you're used to it for the time being. But, with that said, it's entirely up to you and we'll be here to support you no matter what decision you make.

Lizzi - I am amazed at your resolve to continue. You just keep on keeping on! You are a true inspiration. I started on 18 Feb this year (was it you RJM who asked me how long I've been on Cohens?) and have lost 23kg and comparatively, that's a mediocre rate of loss. It's not the slowest rate of loss I've seen, but not the fastest and I struggle with it. I was hoping to be done by now but nup, still got a ways to go. Anyway, the fact that you just keep going is amazing. Well done to you. Oh and I know how you feel I can't wait for refeed too. My goal is 59 but I think i'm going to adjust my goal to 61 when I order my refeed. Apparently some people still lose a bit of weight through the refeed - who was it that did that?

L-Jay - I have no doubt you'll reach your new goal! Good for you for setting one. My new goal is to be 69kgs in 4 weeks. I'll race ya! And my treat for reaching the goal is to go to Sydney to see my sister and her baby. I wish I could treat myself to a big fat piece of warm mud cake with icecream! That will hopefully happen by October. And I probably won't even want it after one bite!

As for the whole crap friends situation - Who needs enemies when you have friends like that? Put up the wall against them and don't let their issues ruin your success! They're just completely jealous that they don't have the willpower or the resolve to do something so fanatastic (yet very difficult) for themselves. All of my friends have been nothing but spectacular. I have one who is a bit jealous but she can get over herself. I noticed her jealousy and just decided not to tell her about how things are going or discuss the diet at all. She doesn't ask so I guess my assumption of jealousy is correct. My other friends are so good, often times they'll go "hey Mel, we're having a BBQ... oh crap, forgot about your diet, can we make you something special or would you like to BYO?"... so cool and so lucky to have such good people around me.

As for me - I have stuck to the program 100% since I started. Only one deviation (which was the extra cracker incident to settle my grumbling stomach at midnight when it thought its 5 hours were up and it was time to eat again). I'm still completely OVER IT this last week... bored with the food and frustrated but the scales continue to creep down towards my goal so I remain strong. I have will power of steel and even armed with that, this is THE HARDEST thing I have ever had to do in my life, but the most rewarding. The lack of socialising is the thing that kills me most but like I keep saying, it's for a SHORT time, not a lifetime. Which brings me to my next point -

Welcome asyoz, 4ukids & spangebabe. This Cohens program is really strict and very difficult but it's all about your mental attitude and your organisation skills! If you're not prepared, you will fail. You have to think and plan ahead constantly. You have to remove yourself from social / tempting situations. You have to develop systems and strategies to make preparing / storing food easy. You have to mentally prepare everyone around you for what they need to do to help you get through it. You have to mentally prepare yourself. Something that works for me is this mental image that flashes across my eyes while i'm staring down the barrel of food that I'm not allowed - it is of me standing over my sink with $780 in my hand and a lit match at the corner of the money! If I eat that morsel, i'm pretty much burning the money I paid for the program so I shut my gob and walk away!

Anyway asyoz, I too tried to find some literature to discount the theory when I started but I couldn't! I think there are no "naysayers" out there cause quite simply, if you stick to it 100% it works.. and all of us here are living proof! There's probably about 100+ registered users on this forum who it has worked for.

Gee that's such a long post ladies! But it's great to see everyone doing so well... We're very lucky to have each other to help us get through it!

Until next ticker movement time... stay well!