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:D :D Hi everyone, Glad to hear you're all doing so well.

Congrats to kim jo1, wow what an achievement.

Moneypenny, (I keep wanting to call you Miss Moneypenny lol) I had my 4 week blood test this morning and the pathologist (my daughter) only took one small vial of blood as the tests ordered weren't anywhere near as many as the initial test. Hope this helps.;)

Hopeful1 - congrats on going ahead with the lifestyle (not diet) I'm sure you'll soon see the results, who knows by the time you get to Bali you'll need a size smaller in bathers:cool: wow.

Went for my 4 week weigh in this morning and was quite pleased to see I'd lost 6KG.:D :D :D Am really pleased but know I could have done better if I'd only drunk more water!!! Will go and get a glass right now, hang on, OK back and sipping as I type, way to go.

To all the new gals out there (are there any males?) welcome and keep in touch, it sure is good to read what everyone else is up to and the good idea's etc.

Must go and top up my glass of water:D
 
cohens and pregnancy

Hi Sammy. I fell pregnant accidentally when on cohens, and was told to eat more carbs and my consultant managed to get my refeed early for me so I didnt have to pay for the whole program again. I actually miscarried early on, and right from the beginning, had a feeling something wasn't right. I was suffering chronic ab pain, and spotting and scans showed the foetus wasnt growing. I can't help but wonder if this was because I fell pregnant while on such a strict diet. Anyway I thought I'd let you know, because I don't think its worth taking risks with. I have had a previous successful pregnancy a few years ago, with no problems.
 
Hi Sammy,
Just a quick post. Remember that Dr Cohen is also into the area of working with couples who are infertile, and will understand the issues well. I heard he developed this program while working with them.
So talk to your consultant, make sure you get very clear information - and try to relax about it. I am sure that this will work itself out, and when the time comes and when you have your information you will know exactly what to do. Then happy pregnancy in the near future!!

I am so sorry L-Jay that you have had such a painful experience. Of course I have no idea about the reasons for your mis-carriage, and I do understand your concerns. I hope this clears it up for you too.

Hope you get some clear information ASAP
lizzi
 
Hi ladies!

Hi everyone,

Glad to see you are all doing well, and also wonderful to see more and more newbies on the scene, WELCOME!


KIM_J01 - Wow!!! What a result! Congratulations, you must be so stoked! I'm completely jealous mind you, but so happy for you too! Keep up the great work. I go to the Brendale Clinic, which isn't too far from home. I take it you go to the new East Brisbane clinic now?? How do you find that consultant??

Well, it's first day of week 8 today for me, so I did my weekly self weigh-in... and unfortunately another meagre loss... only 700 grams. And I REALLY expected much more this week, only because after my whinge last week about only losing 1kg I got my period a day or so after - figured I must have been retaining water - and thought this week would show up differently. I even felt really silly for having such a whinge about 1kg... and then this week shows up 700 grams. I can't win!!

My consultant actually called me regarding the 'whinge' email I sent her, asking for a "Please Explain" why we all lose at different rates yet are on 'individualised' programs... and I didn't get anything more than the "we're all different" theory. So yeah, there appears to be a scientific reason why we all can't lose weight... and a program (this one) designed to correct it... but no reason, scientific or otherwise, why we all lose so differently. **shrugs**

So anywho, I've ammended my Mini Goal 2 to now be 90kg by end of month two. Which gives me a week to lose 4 kilos... which I'm sure won't happen, but my previous goal of losing 8 kilos in month 2 was SO not acheivable it wasn't funny. So is this goal really, but hey I'm setting myself up for failure this month. Nothing seems to be going right and I am hoping upon all hope that month three brings greater rewards. I can't take too much more disappointment in my own body!

I do love, however, to read all of the wonderful success stories on here. Keep up the great work guys, however it is that you're doing it!!!

Cheers :)
 
Hi Ladies!
My Oh My, everyone seems a little down in the dumps! Chin up, everyone! You are all fabulous, don't ever forget it!

Miss Kath - I have been on Cohen's for only 4 days, and so far I'm not tired at all. I've been a little bit hungry a couple of times, but it has usually been close to lunch time, so I've survived. in terms of exercise - hmmm... before cohens, I used to do serious cardio at the gym about 3 times a week, and to be honest, I can't imagine doing it now. It isn't that I have no energy, I just don;y have as much spare energy as I used too (proabaly because I'm not eating sugar!). I think that if you want to do this program, extreme exercise needs to be put on hold. I've been walking a couple of times, and haven't collapsed in hunger pains.
Pink Virgo - Just remember any loss is better than a gain! Just drink that water! You've done great thus far!
Everyone else.... Keep it up!
I'm only at the end of day 4, so feed of my enthusiasm!

bella
 
Miss Moneypenny thanks for your reply.

I will see how I go with the tiredness, sounds fun! But hopefully it gets better. RE: the exercise, my consultant said to stop doing it if I feel tired or get hungry. Happy to have a break from it though, and it is not currently helping my weight problems anyway!

I agree with you about the sacrifice issue, I will have to just make adjustments and say no to some things. I really am OK with this, to get the results!

How has everyone else found the program? Have you been tired as well? I thought you were meant to have more energy!

RE: Ketosis, it is mentioned in my TLC Wellbeing book that I have been reading, but does not say if we are meant to be in it definitiely, and for the whole time. I will ask my consultant

I have been on another diet years ago, which was very low in carbs and had controlled amounts of protein and we were meant to use those Ketostix everyday to check if you were burning fat. However it was not as individually tailored as the Cohen one, or as rigid, however I did lose the weight. Only to put it back on again in a year! Naughty me!
 
feeling better

Hi everyone. Today I'm feeling much better than I have for a few days. I hope it stays like this for awhile. For ones who are worried about tiredness, I remember when I got to a certain point on Cohens, my friends couldn't believe how much energy I had. I just had energy to do everything I wanted, and then some. I'm so looking forward to that time again. Actually that was one of the 1st signs that I was pregnant. I had a day where all I wanted to do was lay on the lounge and sleep. Then came all morning sickness, which always seems to get me at night around tea time. My friends and my husband suspected I was pregnant before I did. Losing the baby was difficult, because for about a month we didn't know from one day to the next whether things were going to be alright or not. I was at the doctors or the hospital every day having scans and blood tests. I felt like we were in limbo. Thankfully my doctor was fantastic. Anyway, Cohens kept in touch, until my year contract was up (stupid me had no idea there was a years contract. And there was nothing about it in my program.) So after the miscarriage, I had a few months where I could have got it together and gone back on Cohens, but my head wasn't around it, and I only did it half-heartedly. That was all back in 2004 and its taken me this long to get it together again. There's no point in saying if only, but I can't help wishing I had finished the program and the refeed before I fell pregnant. Maybe things could have been different. But these things happen. And we have to move on. I was also miffed that I was only 6kgs off my refeed, after having lost around 40kgs. So this time I have to do it right, and I will.
i CaN i WiLL and Lizzi - thanks for your encouragement, I've so needed it the last week. Now I feel like I'm bouncing back again. Physically I was feeling so awful, I think I must have been going through bit of a toxin elimination stage.
I really hope everyone is having a great week.
Pink Virgo - just because the weightloss is a bit on the slow side now, theres nothing to say it may not speed up later. Keep your chin up girl. You are doing well.
Ciao x
 
Hello my fellow shrinking ladies - I mentioned earlier this week that I feel like I've turned a corner with respect to energy levels and so far it is continuing. I feel fantastic! Having reached my first month goal of a 10kg loss is probably helping a bit, but I think I've finally found the Zen of Cohens! Going for my blood test today - thanks to Gayegel for reassuring me about the blood test, it doesn't seem so daunting now!

I had a funny experience this morning with my scales (human ones, not food ones). First I weighed in at 75.5kg, then it dropped to 74kg and then 72.5kg! I had replaced the batteries about a week ago because they were playing up in a similar way so this morning I went to Harris Scarfe and got some new ones. They are Soehnle brand and do the body fat etc thing. Also have a memory so I think it will remember me each day and show what I have lost. They also go in 0.1kg increments which my old ones didn't do - for some reason they only went down in 0.5kg increments which was frustrating. Anyway, Harris Scarfe have heaps of different brands on special, so I thought I'd let you all know in case you need new ones. And, No - I don't work for them! Just thought I'd share a bargain!

Keep up the great work ladies - we're all on track!
 
PinkVirgo

PinkVirgo.... I have read your posts regarding you slow weight lose. I hope my experience will help you. A couple of years ago I was on a diet very similar to this one. Good carbs, bad carbs and minimum protein, potion control. Anyways I lost heaps in the first couple of weeks then the same as you... 700gms here 1kg there. I asked my naturopath, and she explained it (and it is not my intension to upset anyone) some big people just eat bad food and that is the reason they are overweight. Other big people eat a mixture, good and bad. It's just the volume of food that causes the problem. Well those who ate nothing but bad food loose weight quickly because their bodies go into shock with all this good food and the out come is rapid weight lose. For those who eat good / bad, it's not a shock to the body to eat good food. The rapid weight lose is from the decrease in portion size...... Think bad and analysis your old eating habits... I know I was the good and the bad but I could eat as much as my dad.

So in saying all that, I'm not expecting to sustain a rapid weight lose, just going to hopefully enjoy finally completing something I started.....

I had my blood test today, so lets see what happens...... Diet attempt number 1543. Maybe they need to find a cure for lack of motivation...

I haven't been given a program yet but my 'last' diet ketosis explained as; you body will switch to burning fat as energy instead of burning carbohydrates. Known as Ketosis, this process gives you a great bonus. You will not feel hungry as most people do when they are on other diets. Also with the XXXX diet your engery level is enhanced and you will feel good, probably better than you have for a long time. You are burning fat for engery. This is a Hypoglyceamic Ketosis adn is perfectly safe and effective for losing fat.
PINK - Light rose (1.5 small): This means you are burning fat at an appropriate rate.
PURPLE - (4 to 16, moderate to large): This means you can eat a little more carbohydrate with your meals.
TRACE or NEG: This means you have probably had too many carbs in you recent meals in rlation to the amount of protein.

Sorry if this info is not new, like I said I haven't got my program yet so I don't know what advice is given....
 
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Good evening fabulous people!
Well.... I am at the end of day 5, and am doing really well. We had farewell drinks after work today with all sorts of fried goodies, chips, lollies and alcohol. I am proud to say that I took a bottle of water and didn't touch anything! That's massive! Especailly when everyone is saying "go one, just have one drink". The thing is, i didn't actually want one! I was hanging out to get home to cook dinner though!
Have also managed to drink 4 litres of water both yesterday and today. I don't think i can manage must more - I spend so much time in the loo now!
I've decided I'm going to jump on the scales in the morning to see if all my good work is paying off - so far I have resisted. I haven't cheated once, so hopefully it will be good!
Keep it up everyone!
Bella
 
You're all outstanding!

Just reading the posts for the past few days has been inspiring. Can't wait till I get my program. All of you are in such good spirits; hope I can be as positive the first week into my new lifestyle (fingers crossed!)

Hope be getting my program tomorrow. The centre has yet to confirm that they have received my program :(

And for those of you who have been through a rough patch - thanks for sharing all that too. Keeps the situation realistic.
 
Hi there, my diet has arrived. Last Friday i had my blood tested and tomorrow I can collect my diet. So tomorrow will start my new life. And I wll share my experiences with you. I wish you all good luck with Cohen's.
Niracca
 
re good/bad food

Rompa said:
PinkVirgo.... I have read your posts regarding you slow weight lose. I hope my experience will help you. A couple of years ago I was on a diet very similar to this one. Good carbs, bad carbs and minimum protein, potion control. Anyways I lost heaps in the first couple of weeks then the same as you... 700gms here 1kg there. I asked my naturopath, and she explained it (and it is not my intension to upset anyone) some big people just eat bad food and that is the reason they are overweight. Other big people eat a mixture, good and bad. It's just the volume of food that causes the problem. Well those who ate nothing but bad food loose weight quickly because their bodies go into shock with all this good food and the out come is rapid weight lose. For those who eat good / bad, it's not a shock to the body to eat good food. The rapid weight lose is from the decrease in portion size...... Think bad and analysis your old eating habits... I know I was the good and the bad but I could eat as much as my dad.

Rompa - I have wondered about that too, but I don't neccessarily agree with what you naturopath said. The reason being, I have been on Cohens since november 2003, and due to circumstances which I've explained in previous posts, had to go off it after losing 40kgs and being 6 kgs off refeed. In the past I've tried many diets, but this one and one other are the only ones which have worked for me, consistently. Between now and when I first went off cohens, I was still basically sticking to the plan, but not strictly, so I was eating relatively healthy. The moment I went back to allowing 5 hours between meals, and exact weights with everything, the weight started falling off me again. (btw I've experienced this several times, but this time I'm in it to the end) I do believe in my case it is a hormone - based problem. To go by what the naturopath says, makes it sound as if everyone who is having rapid weight loss, used to eat only bad foods all the time or the majority of the time. I feel the difficulty to lose weight the traditional way is generally a womans domain. And our hormones get mucked up easily. Plus we all know people who have tried really hard for long periods to eat "good" foods, eg. low fat, small portions, and have exercised their guts out to no avail. In fact, we are some of those people. I'm not saying that what your naturopath has said is true in some cases, but I'm living proof that that is not the case. I was still weighing my vegies, having them with an egg every morning, and cheese and salad for lunch etc. when not on Cohens, but I ocasionally allowed myself things not on the plan, and wasn't timing my meals.
Anyway, I tried to buy Ketostix yesterday but they arent available and the pharmacist told me they were around $30. Maybe freight accounts for the huge price difference!
Hoping everyone has a great day x
 
Re: Weight loss and Cohens

Dear L-jAY

I am too like you-

I began Cohens in July 2005 I had lost almost 40kg by September, I had lost half before I began Cohens.

As I have said before I got cocky around xmas and began eatimg what I pleased....What a big mistake..needless to say I put weight on..

At xmas I was 8kg off my goal weight..

Now I am 17kg off gaol weight...and let me tell you what it is a struggle everyday to stay on plan...

Don't know if you feel like like this?? But I feel weak and very unhappy with myself..

When I lost all this weight I felt on top of the world and really good about myself..

But now even though I still look ok..I feel really miserable that I have gone back to this again....

But I am trying and I know with a bit of will power I will succeed again...

I am determined to finish this program and enjoy life as a healthy happy person..

After all size isn't everything...its whats in the inside..

Thanks for making me realise this L-JAY

Tammie
xxxxxxxxooooooo
 
DAY 1 of Month 2!

Well, one month down, hopefully not many to go! I have to admit this program has been a lot easier to follow than i first imagined. And i am so happy with the results so far - in my first month, total loss of 9.4kg!!!! YAY!

My goal weight is 65, but this is the bottom of my ideal range of 65-69. My consultant said i can order refeed at 71kg, but initially i wanted to go to 65. But now, i've been thinking, and i have a holiday over east mid May, so would it be better for me to get to 71 by then, do the refeed and then be able to eat normally whilst on holiday, then if i want to lose the other 5 or so kg's, then go back on the program? Feedback would be appreciated.

Hope everyone is having a great day! Keep going strong!

Lou
 
Wow, you stop reading the forums and there are just so many posts to catch up on.:eek: I been a little busy with my new man (who is the person that told me about Cohen's);) He has been 100% supportive as well :eek: I've had a bit of a read over everyone's post and just want to say congrats to the weight loss. Doesn't it just feel so good to see the scales moving int he opposite direction now?

I was just thinking about the diet softdrinks earlier (I haven't had anything but water since starting Cohen's) and although it doesnt bother me that I'm not having these, I REALLY miss having V. I'm guessing even the sugar-less V is a no no but I just had to ask if any of you girls know if we can have it?

Good luck with the weight loss !:D
 
Variance in weight loss..

Hi there ladies, hope everyone is doing well.

Surprisingly enough, yesterday I had planned on having a “non-Cohen” day, so to speak. I had the day off work (and today, yay!), and because I went out with my mother and sister, I decided I’d splurge and get a roast chicken salad from McDonalds for lunch, seeing as I would have had to wait another few hours before going home to fix my Cohen’s lunch. Anyway, because I’d decided to cheat for lunch, I also decided that I’d finally make an appearance on the ‘social scene’ and go out to dinner with my sister and her other half. I figured if I’m going to cheat, I may as well do it all in one day! (Coincidentally, I haven’t had a non-Cohen’s meal in over 7 weeks!). So my sis and mum have gone into McDonalds to grab the order on our way home, while I stayed in the car with bubs. We get home and low and behold, McDonalds got the order wrong (OMG!) and I ended up with a warm crispy chicken salad (something like that). I was SOOOO mad. I had to sit and pick the coating off the chicken, and when I weighed it, it came to a huge 50g. PLUS that chicken is deep fried. And there was carrot in the salad (minimal, yes, but still there!). Even though the roast chicken salad was non-Cohen’s as well, it’s a far better choice over the crispy one. Eating it seriously put me in a bad mood for the rest of the day! Incidentally, when we went out for dinner I took a look at the menu, saw there was nothing even remotely good for me on it, and decided to skip out on the dinner and wait until I got home (and wasted $60 on the pokies whilst the others ate, GRR). I did feel better though, knowing I could have given in and had a big ol’ steak sandwich, a chicken and bacon burger, fried fish and chips or a bowl of pasta. But I just KNEW I’d feel ill if I went there, so decided to tough it out. So I only cheated at lunch time, which is better than lunch and dinner.


ROMPA – Your comments actually make some logical sense to me. I am someone who usually eats well and was not always stuffing ‘bad’ food down my gob. That’s why this program appealed to me, because they were saying there was a medical reason why some people couldn’t lose weight. I felt like someone had finally given me an explanation why two people could eat the same things, and be totally different weight wise. FYI, my sister is 21 months older than me, and we grew up eating the same things, participating in the same activities together etc… and I have always been bigger. She’s just one of those people who doesn’t put on weight, and I’m the opposite. Having said that, my weight was always generally stable. When I reached adulthood, my weight always stayed between about 87 to 95 kilos. 95kg used to be my ‘biggest ever weight’, and it was for many many years. I had never ever gone over 95kg, until just before starting this program (and to be honest, that was when I had started eating bad foods, and a lot of them, for emotional reasons). Before that though, I was very much an ‘everything in moderation’ type eater (but very much a ‘too big’ proportion eater at the same time). So the naturopath’s explanation does ring true for me. At least it’s some sort of logical explanation anyway, which is more than my consultant was able to offer.

But
L-JAY, I also understand that this explanation wouldn’t ring true for some. Of course other factors play a big part in why our bodies work the way they do. For you, they are hormonal factors. We’re all obviously very complex in our own ways, and to have at least some sort of reason to our own “why” question makes us feel that we have a better understanding of ourselves and the way our body works. For me, my weight GAIN was never rapid, so maybe that’s why my weight LOSS is not so rapid? Who knows if it’s as simple as that?

All I know is that I wanna keep going, even if the loss is slow… but I’m not going to kid myself, or anyone else, that I’m not disappointed with a small loss from one week to the next. My disappointment isn’t my main focus, my determination is. I just feel that if I suppress my disappointment than I’m harboring negative emotions that might eventually lead to emotional eating again!! At least when I air the small disappointments here and there, I get reassurances from my family or from you guys on the forum that I’m still doing well and to keep it up, cos for damn sure it’s gonna be worth it!!

That’s why we’re all here… to praise each other, to reassure each other, to congratulate each other and to support each other. We all take the time to read through each other’s posts and at the same time can know and feel what each other are going through.


NIRACCA and HOPEFUL1 – Good luck with starting your program. As I’ve just mentioned, we’re all here for you!!

RIDICULOUS – You’re on the home stretch now. I believe that if you can make it past the first week, the rest is a breeze. It seems to fly by and you’ll soon be unable to remember what you used to eat at meal times before Cohen’s!

HAPPYMUMMY – You know you can do it this time. You had done so fantastically well before you hiccup… you’ll be feeling better and looking better in no time. Keep it up!

Take care all, sorry about the long post!!
 
Diet drinks...

kim_j01 said:
I was just thinking about the diet softdrinks earlier (I haven't had anything but water since starting Cohen's) and although it doesnt bother me that I'm not having these, I REALLY miss having V. I'm guessing even the sugar-less V is a no no but I just had to ask if any of you girls know if we can have it?

KIM_J01 - If I were you I'd check with your consultant on that one. Personally, I figured any 'diet' soft drink was ok on the program, but not so. For example, I was initially told (by my consultant) that the only reason caffeine free diet coke/pepsi was in our program is that caffeine can make you feel hungry, therefore de-caff was recommended so you don't overeat or cheat. So, because Diet Coke and Coke Zero don't make me hungry, I thought I was ok to drink it. Wrong... I've since been told that no, I shouldn't be drinking it. Which I think is crazy, because we are allowed to have three cups of coffee per day before having to switch to de-caff (by the way, I don't dink coffee).

Just check before you potentially jeopardise your weight loss.


PRINCESSLOU - 9.4 kilos in one month! Super effort. You'll be at your goal in no time. Lucky you!!

Cheers :D
 
Hi Everyone,

Thank you for your comments regarding Cohen's and pregnancy. L-Jay, I completely understand where you are coming from. After discovering I had PCOS in 2002 and being advised that I'd have great difficulty falling pregnant, I fell pregnant with my now gorgeous 3yr old son. The pregnancy was fine, but with a horrific delivery (a story for another day).

Anyway, I fell pregnant again in October 2004 and miscarried at 6 weeks. I fell pregnant for the third time in March 2005 and got through the first 12 weeks, breathed a big sigh of relief as we had had several scans and were told everything was ok. I then went for my scan at 13 weeks for all the usual checks and was told that the baby had no heartbeat (after having a perfect scan the week before). So I had to go to hospital the following day for a D&C. The day after that, a good friend of mine and her partner were killed in a car accident, and so began my eating binge.

Now, 12 months later and after losing nearly 20kg, I am back to the weight I was when I fell pregnant with my son. When I fell pregnant last time, I was probably 15kg heavier than I am now. I still want to continue to lose weight with Cohens but feel that I would prefer to try for #2 now, then lose the rest of my weight afterwards. My heart really isn't in my diet at the moment. However, I'm also reluctant to follow it strictly because I don't want to fall pregnant while on it. I just want to try to do all the right things to give myself and the baby the best chance of getting to the end of a pregnancy successfully. I'll speak with my clinic on Tuesdayd.

Pink Virgo - I know that small losses can be disheartening, but trust me, a loss is far better than a gain. And all of those little losses add up to one big loss. As long as the scales are going downwards, pat yourself on the back and know that you're travelling to where you want to be. It might not be as fast as you'd like, but in the right direction nevertheless.

xxx
 
Hi everyone hope you're all having a great day.
Sammy - You have really been through the mill. Congratulations on the 20kg weightloss. I think thats tremendous with the emotional rollercoaster you've experienced. My hope for you is that you succeed with everything you want - the successful pregnancy ( hopefully with a smooth delivery - I can relate to that too) and the weightloss. What ever you decide, it is your decision, and you can be happy in knowing you've made an informed decision. Keep in touch and let us know what's going on.
Pink Virgo - I believe what you say makes perfect sense. I put weight on just looking at food, so I think it's reasonable then that with this program if that's the case the weightloss may be faster, but vice-versa for ones who have slow weight gain. I hadn't even thought of it like that before. I guess there has to be some advantage to putting on weight easily lol.
Happy Mummy - I'm glad I've been of some help to you. It's so frustrating to think how close we got to goal. But unlike other weightloss programs, we can be happy we havent put back on the whole lot and a bit more. I am pretty motivated at the moment and wish I could do something to help you with the motivation factor. One thing I have done is printed out 2 tickers, and put them on my fridge. Another is I am really trying to weigh only once a month. I know this doesn't work for everyone, but my scales only go in 500g increments, so what may only be a 100g increase could register as a 1/2 kg increase, and I don't want to be deflated. It's such a mind thing. If I can think of anything that may help you, I'll let you know. Also, I do get very down, and even depressed about my weight. You are right, health and happiness are more important than the outside package. But when I am seriously doing something about it I am a lot happier. Remember too that being overweight isn't always a matter of lack of will power. You probably have oodles of that, but all manner of other things can sabotage it. Eg tiredness, low blood sugar. We are only human. Don't expect perfection from yourself (this is great coming from someone who does just that) Just hang in there. Don't give up.
 
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