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Hello everyone!

Just a quick ticker update - great to read about everyone's successes!

Kind regards

Taffy
 
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Hi Taffy

Just wanted to congratulate you on your progress!:D

I am looking to join in Feb and noted that you have been a member since Jan on this Forum, can I ask when you joined Cohens please so I have an idea on how fast you have lost (I am similar and will have a similar of weight to lose as you).

Kind regards
Monz
 
Are you still in contract period?

When the Melbourne clinic closed people I am of the understanding customers where given the option to get the refeed or transfer their file to another clinic.
 
Not sure. If I am, it's by the skin of my teeth!


I would phone the other perth clinic and say that you have been trying to contact the other clinic for weeks and weeks and you are scared that you contract has expired and still wish to get the refeed.
 
Hi Dreamer, I think most melbourne people went to the geelong clinic. They told me when i started regardless of whether i finished inside or outside of the contract that my refeed would always be available when i got to goal.
 

LESSFATTY -
I agree with you in regards to putting weight back on when lost quickly if you dont change your lifestyle. My complaint was more that she wasnt even interested in hearing what I was doing and what the program was all about. Anyways, as long as I believe and stick to it to the absolute end, I will succeed.

I did call my clinic today and told them about my bout of tummy upset and considering I have skipped meals due to having tummy discomfort, and eating yogurt x2 in a day over the w/e as I was told to eat something that would be easily digestable, and didnt want to eat things not allowed on my program, its understandable that I have been up and down like a yoyo and not lost weight as I have been thus far. Also am finding it very difficult to drink my 3ltrs of water because of this problem. Im off to the Drs to get results from more blood tests on Friday so hopefully they will be able to pinpoint where this issue is stemming from.

I have made a contract and decision with myself when I joined Cohens and am going to see this thru to the end and am going to be living a much slimmer, healthier lifestyle.

Hopefully I will be back to basics soon enough as Im off on the 1st Feb to the USA and dont want to be behind the 8 ball before leave. There will be enough temptations over that period and really dont want to put myself in a situation where I will gain loads of weight.

Id set myself a goal of 75kgs for the 31st Jan, and that was a few weeks ago, and here I am, been on the 76.6kgs mark on and off for the past 2 wks. Considering my health situation, I think I need to be realistic and more than likely wont be able to get there. But it doesnt mean Im a failure. Bumps and hurdles are put in front of us every day and we manage to over come them, and this is just another one of those.

Hope all are doing well and feeling lighter.

Cheers,

Regina
 
... (my)28kgs in 14wks is a lot of weight to have lost. I am feeling it in different ways. My Dr told me on Sunday that its too fast and I will only gain it all back at the same pace and Im being foolish and irresponsible. Granted, she is thinking Im on some random diet as she has never heard of Cohens. But its people like her, that make us strivers for normal weight, to question ourselves and to put down our efforts. Nonetheless, I will not allow her to throw a spanner in the works.

Regina

Hi Regina - and lessfatty, I went looking for this reference so that I could respond.

No, your doctor is not right. My weekly weight has not changed since 24th June, 2006.

I am certainly aware of the affect carbohydrates have on me -I have continued with the yoghurt breakfast but by choice as I really like it.

Lunch is something bsed on protein, and sometimes this means a toasted sandwich, or an egg salad, or tuna or whatever, but not just endless wheat products. Dinner is just the family meal and the rest of the family are a lot more conscious of what they eat now, so that's good.

But ... if I have a high carbohydrate day, I balance it with a low carbohydrate day the day after. We had fish 'n' chips for dinner this week (gorgeous beer batter, really the nicest f&c that I have had in years) and the next day I had actually lost weight.

I have kept up with the water, but there are always raw almonds in the jar and Old Gold chocolate in the snack tray. It's there if I want it.

I choose cheesecake if I want desert, and not ice cream with pretend chocolate topping. My need or desire to nibble and snack after dinner has almot disappeared - but I still have something to munch on if I want and have discovered the joys of a couple of crispbread and a slice of cheese rather than six pieces of toast.

If I eat something now, it had better be good! As I have mentioned before, my taste for sweet sherry has been replaced with a liking for dry reds and most importantly, I really enjoy being slim.

I was on the program for only 20 weeks, yet in that time what I wanted and looked forward to eating radically changed. I am not 'afraid' of putting weight back on. I am confident that I won't put the weight back on, not even a couple of kilos. I don't want to and I won't.

In fact, I was thinking the other day, I almost have to eat to keep the weight steady - and perhaps that's the knack. Previously I went ten or twelve hours between eating whereas now I keep the interval to less than six hours and keep up with the water.

There's no magic to this, but by the time we have reached goal weight I think we know our bodies quite well, and we are inspired to give our bodies the best care we can. After all, if we have pets we look after them as they can't do it for themselves. My pet is now my body (sorry if that sounds kinky!) and I have discovered a new hobby - caring for 'my self' as I haven't really bothered to care for my self before.

Keep going - and a special congratulations to heavenlylamb for achieving 'overweight' status. That is truly amazing and you have done extremely well considering the impositions of business and travel which you have to deal with.

So I reckon, all of us on this forum today will be at goal weight and stabilised before Christmas 2007 - and I am determined to be able to say on 24th June 'Oh, I've been the same weight for a year now' and if I can do it, you can do it too!

Cheers

Kristine
 
Reply to Monz

Hi Taffy

Just wanted to congratulate you on your progress!:D

I am looking to join in Feb and noted that you have been a member since Jan on this Forum, can I ask when you joined Cohens please so I have an idea on how fast you have lost (I am similar and will have a similar of weight to lose as you).

Kind regards
Monz


Hello Monz

Thank you for your congratulations!

I started Cohen's on 29/11/06 - so I've been on it 7 weeks and 1 day.

Cohens have advised that I am a bit of an 'unusual' participant (typical of me!) - in 7 weeks, I have only lost 7.12 kg - which is not exactly rapid weight loss, but I have lost a considerable 74 cm in my measurements - which is much faster than many participants, ie over 10 cm/week on average.

To give you an example, I have a couple of friends on Cohens - both started a week after me. One has 20 kgs to lose and has already lost 10 kgs in just 6 weeks - but only 35 cm in measurement. She looks great.

My only concern with the slower weight loss is that as Cohens is focused on the participants reaching 2 kg above their goal weight before they start the re-feeding, if I maintain my current average weight loss of 1 kg/week, I will be on it for another 17 weeks before I even reach my re-feeding weight of 53 kg.

So, to date - and hey, it could well change :D - it isn't exactly the rapid weight loss I was hoping for ... but I have to say that I look like I've lost more than 7 kg (due to the cm loss) and I feel so much better - I'm not as tired, I have so much more energy, my skin is so much better ... and I'm happier in myself because I look better. It may be slower than I had hoped, but it is definitely still worth it!

Another example - on 20/12/06, I bought a pair of trousers to wear to my work Xmas lunch the next day. They are a size 14 and were firm (when I started Cohens I was a firm size 16), but still comfortable on me when I bought them. I'm wearing them today (ie only 4 weeks later) and they are too big for me - I could easily fit into a size 12 of the same pants ... makes me very happy!!

Hope that helps - I'm sure you'll not be unusual (!) and will do really well like so many of the other forum participants ... :0)

Kind regards

Taffy
 
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Chelsea!

Oh Chelsea!
i dont know what it is about you, but everytime i see a post from you i get really excited as all your posts seem to be so bloody motivating and insightful!
I think your the mentor of this thread, helping all us little struggling cohenites plod along :D

i remember reading a post from you in regards to the refeed - how you sometimes get a niggling feeling that you should of waited and held off refeed for 2 kilo as you werent hungry...and from this comes my question! :)

My Goal weight in my cohens booklet is 67, my Goal weight calculator from the website says 66...and IDEALLY i would really very much like to hit 65kg before i start refeed. I dont know what it is but i really really would like to hit 65 and maintain that weight for the rest of my life.
even though my ideal weight is different to the booklet..do you think it would still be okay for me to hold off? i will still be in my healthy weight range for my height and i am naturally a 'big boned' kind of girl as i hold fat quite well hehe:rolleyes: .

i REALLY look forward to your reply! :D


Happy Losing Everyone xx:)
 
Oooh HotCat you say the nicest things!


Honestly, I know I keep repeating the same things over and over, but just when I think that everybody must be really tired of hearing my repetitions I remember that there is always someone new joining in and it's fresh to them.

However, I will try and think up a few more anecdotes to keep the posts interesting.

HotCat I have spent thirty years motivating people. I could talk under water. I really think I was born to talk, it is my destiny! I think that's part of the reason I love working on the houses - I get to do something which doesn't involve talking (until the phone rings!).

Netski mentioned that she was so hungry at the end of the program that she couldn't sleep. I never felt hungry and still don't. It was the lack of hunger which has contributed to my feeling of short changing myself.

I think that by the time we get to refeed we are just so hot-dang pleased with ourselves, and we look so amazing, and we tell ourselves how wonderfully we have done, and well, I've reached Goal so now I have to do this refeed thingy part of the program and by that time we have been weighing to the gram for twelve weeks or twenty weeks or fifty weeks or whatever and the novelty has worn off, so we say 'that's enough' and move on to the next stage and it's good. It's all good. It's @@@***###???@@@&&& good!

But six months later, when our new image is not new any more, and our mental blueprint is starting gradually to imprint to the image in the mirror as 'normal', is when the temptation to fiddle about comes in.

From some posts I read a couple of months ago, the temptation to 'fix it' usually leads to disaster. As you know, while we are on the program the body is in a very delicate state - delicate balance, not delicate vulnerable.

We eat one ‘regular’ meal and there is no weight loss for a week. Yee-wah!

After refeeding, we can eat whatever and balance back again provided we do not put on more than three kilos at any given time. Three kilos is probably, say, Christmas or a holiday or a busy week eating out of tins. The next week, well that's easy, just keep an eye on the intake and the weight will fade away again.

But when the 'keeping an eye on the intake' takes the form of a strict but pseudo Cohen's for a week or two there seems to be some sort of 'clang' that happens. Maybe doing that once, or even twice, would be OK, but it seems that those who think they will come back for a kilo or two simply mess things up and start to put the weight back on.

Netski has gone back on the program for six weeks and intends to complete refeed. I wouldn't mind being 58 kilos but at this stage I am not prepared to mess with the balance. I don't want to start and maybe lose interest and then end up by shooting myself in the foot.

I would suggest that if you are not hungry, but have the refeed program ready, you can judge when you go on to the refeed at your discretion.

However, having said that, part of my decision to start refeed was that the program had arrived because the clinic was closing down and had ordered my refeed about six weeks earlier than it should have been ordered. This meant the darn thing was sitting there like a bad conscience, whistling me whenever I walked past it - I should have put it in the boot of the car and just ignored it until I was ready. Because it was there I felt coerced into doing it. I forgot: It was my refeed program, I was not it's human!


So, HotCat, organise your own life to suit yourself. If you want to be 65 kilos, or fit a certain size jean or top or whatever, let that be your guide. The program is, after all, based on a generic height / shoe size and I would consider it a working model rather than written in stone. Yours truly has love handles wearing size 8 jeans - there is no justice in this world!

I suppose the bottom line (no pun intended) is that if we get to where we want to be, and the emphasis is on we / us / our own self, then we will be at peace.

If we complete the program because of a figure in a book or the refeed program glaring at us from the shelf or because our children / Mothers / husbands / friends at work say ‘that’s enough, you’ll make yourself sick, you look terrific’ and we acquiesce to them, we may always feel we gave up just before the siren sounded.

If we wait until we are at the weight / size / shape we always wanted to be, and perhaps that is a couple of kilos, or like lessfatty, a whole ten kilos less than the program figure, we are not going to look anorexic or scrawny we are just going to be the way we want to be, that’s all.

Doing this program requires us to be sound in wind and limb and balanced in our minds. It is not something to be done on a whim. It requires commitment and diligence and taking a quite dispassionate approach. It means planning and organising and taking food with us and saying ‘no thanks’ and developing a sense of will power and a strength of purpose.

We are the Cohen’s Champions! It brings out the best in us.

So when you reach your ‘best’ you will know it. You don’t have to achieve skinniness, just your own loveliest self. That loveliest self is worth another week or two and then you will be just absolutely perfect!

Lotsa love

Kristine
 
Re: Advice from Taffy

Hi Taffy

Thanks so much for giving me a rundown - I think the way that you have lost is great and the fact that you have lost so many cms is so motivating. I am not just looking for the kgs lost as it is all about how you feel and an 80kg person can look very different to the next 80kg person.

Good luck with your progress and getting to goal and if it takes a bit longer - doesn't matter, you will be there (that is only just over 4 MONTHS!) If I could lose 25kgs by June I will be STOKED!!

Thanks again and I am looking forward to seeing your progress - I am busting to start!!

Kind regards
Monz
 
Ticker update...

i must say that i have finally regained control... i have hit the 89's and hopefully tomorrow the 88's... since the week before christmas it has been a struggle! i was 89 before xmas the over that i went to 93 then back to 89 then up to 93 and now finally after xmas, new year and hubbys bday i am finally on the right track again... it feels good... Anyways we have really kicked our old habbits of staying in and watching tele...
This is our new routine...
Monday-Ride to brothers house hubby trains in home gym, ride home
Tuesday-either a 1 hr walk or we ride to the the gym to swim laps,spa,sauna
Wednesday-Ride to brothers house hubby trains in home gym, ride home
Thursday-Walk into our shopping center about 40min each way have dinner walk home
Friday-Ride to brothers house hubby trains in home gym, ride home
Saturday-ride/walk to gym swim laps,spa,sauna
I can't believe how active we have become and we enjoy it!!! our lives have totally changed... I still have a whopping 24kgs to go by may 8th but i am not too concerned now at all i know i am strong enough to do this!
plus now i get on the back of his road bike and we go to the movies on a fri or sat night then we go out for a coffee. something i would never ever do when i was 133kgs!!!! i am so proud of him as well he has kept to his goal weight since finishing 2 months ago!!!

It is really weird how your whole attitude changes and you don't even realise it sometimes!

Glad to see everybody doing so well. Keep up the good work.

Tam
 
Thanks Chelsea - your a star!

Hi Fellow Cohenites!! I have been away for a while and have come back to sooooo many new posts and new members!! It's great to see!!
I'm just here to do a quick ticker update - I am so completely stoked to have reached the 20kg stage!! The number was teasing me for a while!
Hi Chelsea!!! I'm no newbie but I still get soo much out of your posts and advice! You may feel like your repeating yourself, but it seems each time you talk about something in particular - it is exactly the time that I need to hear it!!! Kinda spooky but very cool!
My "Cohens" goal weight is set between 57kgs - 60kgs so I am only 4kgs off my top end goal. My consultant is adament that I should order refeed then. I'm not so sure!! Before my hormones went haywire and I started putting on continual weight my ideal weight for me was always 54 - 55kgs. That is when I personally felt the best and by no means did I look underweight or anything. So after reading your posts ages ago I thought I would go for my lower end 'Cohens Goal' weight. Then I thought buggar it I will go 1 kigs less to 56kgs.
But I sooo know what you mean by the thoughts of - ' you've done soo well, you don't need to go lighter, stick with the goal they set for you etc etc " It is sooo bloody tempting to just stop this program and think 'there... I'm done thank God!!!' But I don't want to regret it like you do and feel I should have waited for the hunger or feel the need to go back on it because I know I will screw up all the hard work.
So like I said - your posts speaks to me at the most appropriate time, I am going to stick it out until I feel the insatiable HUNGER - I will listen to what my body tells me - for that wilkl be the time to order refeed! Thank you!!;)
 
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Hi MellyP

Thanks!

And - there is nothing to stop you ordering refeed - after all, the consultant is not in the business of producing stick figures - but when you actually commence refeed should be up to you.

Lotsa love

Kristine
 
My "Cohens" goal weight is set between 57kgs - 60kgs so I am only 4kgs off my top end goal. My consultant is adament that I should order refeed then. I'm not so sure!! Before my hormones went haywire and I started putting on continual weight my ideal weight for me was always 54 - 55kgs. That is when I personally felt the best and by no means did I look underweight or anything. So after reading your posts ages ago I thought I would go for my lower end 'Cohens Goal' weight. Then I thought buggar it I will go 1 kigs less to 56kgs.
So like I said - your posts speaks to me at the most appropriate time, I am going to stick it out until I feel the insatiable HUNGER - I will listen to what my body tells me - for that wilkl be the time to order refeed! Thank you!!;)
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Hi Melly,
My friends and my consultant who have got to the insatiable hunger phase said that it really was sudden and also unbearable.... like you wake up one morning and you could eat a cow!
So, I would order refeed and then start when you feel ready. But if you don't order it then once you have the insatiable hunger you'll have to wait days to get it.....
maybe just give it to someone else to look after so you don't start it before you are ready!
HL
 
Thanks Chelsea

Hello everyone!

Chelsea - I agree with the other posts - your comments are great and very motivating. It's really helpful knowing more about life 'on the other side' of Cohens. It sounds very appealing and enjoyable ... and do-able!

Monz - I know what you mean about 'busting to start' - when you've made your mind up, all you want to do is just get started!

When I started, family and friends thought I was mad starting so close to Christmas - but I just said that I felt motiviated then + if I waited until after Christmas, I would have even more to lose!

Your mindset really does change on Cohens, Monz - and I found it happened quite quickly. As has been mentioned on this forum before, if you think of food as your medicine, then it takes the focus off it as being something pleasureable - eating just becomes something almost 'clinical' - which makes it easier to stick to for sure.

Buying smaller clothes and receiving all of the lovely comments definitely creates a feeling far better than any food can create! After only a few weeks on Cohens, I had the confidence to go from wearing loose-fitting shirts and tops ... to fitted t-shirts and long-sleeved t-shirts.

Great everyone is doing so well!

Kind regards

Taffy
 
Hi everyone

I am new to the forum and am have joined cohens. I don't know how I will go without my beloved champagne but I am committed to this (so far). I have put on about 20kgs in 2 years and am disgusted. I have suffered from bulimia for much of my life and briefly flirted with anorexia. I want to get back down to the low 60's in the next few months.

I hope to get to know you all better and really hope I can make a valuable contribution.
 
help me understand

Hi Melly,
My friends and my consultant who have got to the insatiable hunger phase said that it really was sudden and also unbearable.... like you wake up one morning and you could eat a cow!
So, I would order refeed and then start when you feel ready. But if you don't order it then once you have the insatiable hunger you'll have to wait days to get it.....
maybe just give it to someone else to look after so you don't start it before you are ready!
HL

I don't get it about being ready. I thought when you are just 2 kg away from your target weight, you shd call for refeed? What I get from you all, is that if you are at the hunger phase, you'll have to call for refeed?

I'm just 2 kgs away from calling for my refeed, and am hungry! So when do i call?

Help me understand yah? Thanks. =)
 
Newlife, call now! If you are hungry you should order the refeed and by the time it gets to you will be one your way to the final finish line!
Most people apparently get 'the hunger" about 2kgs away from goal, so you are right on track with the majority. I'm still 4kgs away so I may have to order then too we will wait and see. When I reach my 'set Cohen's goal' I will order my refeed regardless of what my body is telling me. My point was if I haven;t experienced 'the hunger" at that time, I will carry on with the original program until I do. That way I will already have my refeed program in my hot little hands and will be able to start straight away.
Does that make sense??? :p
 
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