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some of us we lift weights to look better, but we dont pay thousands of dollars, have to be split open, tagged with silicom bags, sewed back up, and undergo rehab to achieve it.
in fact, our desire and efforts to look better is actually a very healthy practice/lifestyle
sorry, you cant compare lifting to plastic surgery :]
i was just referring to the fact that the patients are willing to pay rediculous amounts of money, and be operated on and suffer through the recovery just because of a simple physical imperfection.
if the desire to change yourself and be attractive is great enough to lead you to spend a lot of money, go under the knife, and suffer recovery(it is a painful time),
then i honestly believe that you are either "brainwashed" by the media, focusing on outward appearance too much, or you are dealing with an undealt with insecurity in a girastic way.
if you are willing to do the above, then i believe you should really be changing your inside, not your outside.
Change your mind, as in, stop focusing so much on physical appearance. Hasn't your mother told you its the inside that matters?
and besides, its free
moreover, our "imperfections" make who we really are
the people who love us the most learn to embrace us despite our blemishes
and the people who do not accept us for our physical flaws are not true companions.
so all you have to do is accept yourself for who you are :]
some of us we lift weights to look better, but we dont pay thousands of dollars, have to be split open, tagged with silicom bags, sewed back up, and undergo rehab to achieve it.
in fact, our desire and efforts to look better is actually a very healthy practice/lifestyle
sorry, you cant compare lifting to plastic surgery :]
i was just referring to the fact that the patients are willing to pay rediculous amounts of money, and be operated on and suffer through the recovery just because of a simple physical imperfection.
if the desire to change yourself and be attractive is great enough to lead you to spend a lot of money, go under the knife, and suffer recovery(it is a painful time),
then i honestly believe that you are either "brainwashed" by the media, focusing on outward appearance too much, or you are dealing with an undealt with insecurity in a girastic way.
if you are willing to do the above, then i believe you should really be changing your inside, not your outside.
Change your mind, as in, stop focusing so much on physical appearance. Hasn't your mother told you its the inside that matters?
and besides, its free
moreover, our "imperfections" make who we really are
the people who love us the most learn to embrace us despite our blemishes
and the people who do not accept us for our physical flaws are not true companions.
so all you have to do is accept yourself for who you are :]
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hey proteinboy,
i'm not sure if you read through all the posts but i'd be really interested in hearing your opinion on a scenario that i laid out earlier:
let's say a woman who is small in stature is born with really really big breasts and while she is confident and secure, she feels like her body is really out of proportion and that there is too much attention drawn to that particular part of her body. it makes her self conscious about her breasts because they are quite prominent and she feels like they are a distraction from her face and her person. it also affects her feelings about her own femininity. there are two scenarios: she can live with it or she can have a breast reduction. let's say she has the reduction. in the process, she takes a long time to do research and become educated on costs/risks/benefits of breast reduction. she saves her money and finds a reputable surgeon. she thinks to herself that surgery will help her become more proportionate so that she can spend less money on customized bras and also so that she can shop for shirts and bras that fit in stores like the Gap and Target, something that she hasn't been able to do since "the change." she also thinks that it'll help her feel more comfortable in her daily interactions. she doesn't think that it'll change the person that she is or boost her self esteem so much that she can quit her job and become a supermodel. she's doing it to literally decrease her breast size and for the boost in the quality of her life. so, she has a breast reduction.
i'm not sure if you read through all the posts but i'd be really interested in hearing your opinion on a scenario that i laid out earlier:
let's say a woman who is small in stature is born with really really big breasts and while she is confident and secure, she feels like her body is really out of proportion and that there is too much attention drawn to that particular part of her body. it makes her self conscious about her breasts because they are quite prominent and she feels like they are a distraction from her face and her person. it also affects her feelings about her own femininity. there are two scenarios: she can live with it or she can have a breast reduction. let's say she has the reduction. in the process, she takes a long time to do research and become educated on costs/risks/benefits of breast reduction. she saves her money and finds a reputable surgeon. she thinks to herself that surgery will help her become more proportionate so that she can spend less money on customized bras and also so that she can shop for shirts and bras that fit in stores like the Gap and Target, something that she hasn't been able to do since "the change." she also thinks that it'll help her feel more comfortable in her daily interactions. she doesn't think that it'll change the person that she is or boost her self esteem so much that she can quit her job and become a supermodel. she's doing it to literally decrease her breast size and for the boost in the quality of her life. so, she has a breast reduction.
hey aeonteal :]
you must understand "secure"
secure-free from care; without anxiety: emotionally secure.
are negative views on one's body signs security?
no
is this self conciousness "free from care", as the definition of "secure" defines?
again, if she was secure, this anxiety would not have come to mind
negative views on one's femininity is not a sign of security.
in conclusion, she was in fact, not secure; her insecurity lead her to go under the knife.
now, whether or not it was a good descision is unpredictable.
but it is undeniable that she did it because she had not the mental strength to live with her insecurity: large breasts
imo, she should have dealt with the problem internally, and learned to accept her God-given gifts, not slice them off :]
you must understand "secure"
secure-free from care; without anxiety: emotionally secure.
yet...
hmm...good or bad? the connotation suggests her thoughts on this are negative
are negative views on one's body signs security?
no
if she was secure, this anxiety would not have come to mind
is this self conciousness "free from care", as the definition of "secure" defines?
in a negative way? in a posative way? the connotation suggests negatively.
again, if she was secure, this anxiety would not have come to mind
negative views on one's femininity is not a sign of security.
in conclusion, she was in fact, not secure; her insecurity lead her to go under the knife.
now, whether or not it was a good descision is unpredictable.
but it is undeniable that she did it because she had not the mental strength to live with her insecurity: large breasts
imo, she should have dealt with the problem internally, and learned to accept her God-given gifts, not slice them off :]
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lol! i love it. i can't believe that it's impossible for you to be more open minded about this. they are just freakin' breast implants or a breast reduction.
i don't define secure in the way that you do. earlier in this thread, i stated that in my opinion, security and high self esteem don't mean that you love every part of yourself and that you wouldn't ever want to change a thing about your body or face. i personally don't know anyone who is 100% secure and loving every part of themselves so that they think they are perfect. security just means that you are self aware, stable and that you are happy and/or continually striving to be happy. the difference could be that an insecure person generally isn't really aware of their insecurities and might blame society/media/other people for their feelings of inadequacy or tend to not know how to deal with it.
i just can't believe that you think that woman that i described should learn to live with her body instead of thinking that it's okay for her to make an informed decision to have a safe procedure that could make her even happier!
that's just mindblowing!
i don't define secure in the way that you do. earlier in this thread, i stated that in my opinion, security and high self esteem don't mean that you love every part of yourself and that you wouldn't ever want to change a thing about your body or face. i personally don't know anyone who is 100% secure and loving every part of themselves so that they think they are perfect. security just means that you are self aware, stable and that you are happy and/or continually striving to be happy. the difference could be that an insecure person generally isn't really aware of their insecurities and might blame society/media/other people for their feelings of inadequacy or tend to not know how to deal with it.
i just can't believe that you think that woman that i described should learn to live with her body instead of thinking that it's okay for her to make an informed decision to have a safe procedure that could make her even happier!
that's just mindblowing!
If every time your wife gave birth, you lost an inch of your hoohoo - and they had a cosmetic surgery to give you those inches back -it would probably be the most common surgery on the planet. I highly doubt men would say, "oh well, that's nature".
lol :] im glad your mind is getting blown then.
believe it, God created man in his image and molded each of us perfectly in his inspection.
He is our potter!
but if religious agreement is not present here,
everyone is still born with their own unique qualities.
what is there to change?
why do we view some as "ugly"?
it saddens me to see how society is shaping your mind:
i think that she should live and be happy with her attributes, not focusing on outward appearance
while you preach that she should get the surgery and "fix" her physical imperfection by all means. not to mention the funds expended, and the pain and fear.
my mind isnt blown because i was aware of this for a while...
society is focused in on physical traits and refuses to magnify internal qualities at a higher intensification
believe it, God created man in his image and molded each of us perfectly in his inspection.
He is our potter!
but if religious agreement is not present here,
everyone is still born with their own unique qualities.
what is there to change?
why do we view some as "ugly"?
it saddens me to see how society is shaping your mind:
i think that she should live and be happy with her attributes, not focusing on outward appearance
while you preach that she should get the surgery and "fix" her physical imperfection by all means. not to mention the funds expended, and the pain and fear.
my mind isnt blown because i was aware of this for a while...
society is focused in on physical traits and refuses to magnify internal qualities at a higher intensification
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another addition:
just as adam and eve covered themselves in Eden, after eating the forbidden fruit; God asked them
"Who told you that you were naked?"
of course, it was sin that opened their eyes to this realization.
it was satan's doing
today's society can be spoken to from the Lord,
"Who told you that you were ugly?"
"Who told you that you had imperfections?"
It is satan's doing. Sadly, we are all born sinners, and we all cover ourselves because of our ancestor's sin.
We are ashamed of what God gave us...
and now i cannot believe humanity is going as far as to operate on themselves to change how God has created us
it is a sign of our sin...
God wants us to be content with who we are....
think about it: who said there is a distinction between ugly and beauty?
where did it come from?
sin
do not embrace satan's creation.
Everybody is created by God...how can anything God created be imperfect?
it is simply our own sin that stains us...nothing else
just as adam and eve covered themselves in Eden, after eating the forbidden fruit; God asked them
"Who told you that you were naked?"
of course, it was sin that opened their eyes to this realization.
it was satan's doing
today's society can be spoken to from the Lord,
"Who told you that you were ugly?"
"Who told you that you had imperfections?"
It is satan's doing. Sadly, we are all born sinners, and we all cover ourselves because of our ancestor's sin.
We are ashamed of what God gave us...
and now i cannot believe humanity is going as far as to operate on themselves to change how God has created us
it is a sign of our sin...
God wants us to be content with who we are....
think about it: who said there is a distinction between ugly and beauty?
where did it come from?
sin
do not embrace satan's creation.
Everybody is created by God...how can anything God created be imperfect?
it is simply our own sin that stains us...nothing else
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proteinboy, you have a unique skill in misinterpreting everything i write. it's pretty interesting to see how my words come out exactly the opposite of what i've said but anyway...i'm not gonna diss on the religious stuff. but, i'm also not gonna go there...
thanks for the chat anyway.
thanks for the chat anyway.
of course; we both have our own views, which are the exact opposite. :]
it was interesting; thanks for the mental stimulation
and remember: you are beautiful the way God created you!
it was interesting; thanks for the mental stimulation
and remember: you are beautiful the way God created you!
Interesting analogy, but a man's, you know, serves a functional purpose. It can only be so small before it is no longer, well, functional. Small breasts produce just as much milk as big ones. Having implants won't make the breasts work better. You can't compare apples to oranges.
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I'm not that religious, but I agree with your point. We were made the way we were made for a reason.
There is a big difference between working out to build muscles to look better and feel better about yourself and getting foreign objects surgically implanted in your body.
Building muscle is technically just using the potential that your body already has to change itself. This is okay. If you believe in God, then God gave you that potential. So, no there's nothing wrong with working out to change the shape of your body. That potential is built into your DNA.
Now, cutting your body open and putting bags full of silicone or saline into it was not build into our design as human beings. It's not natural. On the other hand, taking estrogen to get bigger breasts is using our bodies' natural potential, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Just the idea of having some doctor cut into your precious skin and permanently scar you so you can have a foreign object in your body seems wrong to me. Some people have no moral problem with this kind of thing, but it doesn't make them bad people. It just means they don't have a problem with it. The same goes for tattoos and piercings. They're not meant for my body, so I won't get them.
I'm not trying to change anyone's views, I'm just trying to explain mine.
And just a question, why are large breasts the object of desire? Why do women do it to be happy? Why not small breasts? Isn't there anything desirable about small breasts? (I know that answer for myself, I just want to know what people think.)
Just a thought.
If the woman was having back problems and needed the breast reduction, I could definitley understand.
Honestly, like MB said, wrong for some, right for others. Just like Paris Hilton is a waste of space that has a complete different idea of what is right and what is wrong then me. Its all a matter of priorities in life. If the woman is rich and has money to throw around and nothing better to do in life, she wouldn't have a problem getting the surgery. If the woman was from a working class family that has to work for everything they get on a day to day basis, I'm sure she wouldn't care too much about her boobs being a Full B rather than DD's. It's all about priorities.
aeonteal, I don't think he means that it matters she learned of the risks. She is still doing it for the same reason-she is self conscious about her figure. She is insecure with her body. Thats what he means. If she was secure or not self conscious, there would be no reason to get the surgery (in the scenario you described) If she was doing it because they were so large she was having back problems, thats a different thing IMO.
But honestly, I think it's a waste for someone to spend 7 grand on something that didn't need to be changed, only because the person 'liked it more'. Just my opinion, my priorities are in a completely different place than worrying about how people see my body. I'm more interested in the person behind the body, and if someone is only attracted to me for my body, then I'm really not too interested in that person.
Honestly, like MB said, wrong for some, right for others. Just like Paris Hilton is a waste of space that has a complete different idea of what is right and what is wrong then me. Its all a matter of priorities in life. If the woman is rich and has money to throw around and nothing better to do in life, she wouldn't have a problem getting the surgery. If the woman was from a working class family that has to work for everything they get on a day to day basis, I'm sure she wouldn't care too much about her boobs being a Full B rather than DD's. It's all about priorities.
aeonteal, I don't think he means that it matters she learned of the risks. She is still doing it for the same reason-she is self conscious about her figure. She is insecure with her body. Thats what he means. If she was secure or not self conscious, there would be no reason to get the surgery (in the scenario you described) If she was doing it because they were so large she was having back problems, thats a different thing IMO.
But honestly, I think it's a waste for someone to spend 7 grand on something that didn't need to be changed, only because the person 'liked it more'. Just my opinion, my priorities are in a completely different place than worrying about how people see my body. I'm more interested in the person behind the body, and if someone is only attracted to me for my body, then I'm really not too interested in that person.
thankyou, merc and pumpkin. i agree with you two :]
glad we see eye to eye
glad we see eye to eye
i don't define insecurity the way that some of you do. to do so would be an impossible, unrealistic way of viewing the world and oneself.
god doesn't enter the equation with me either.
and, what is exactly is this so-called reason that we came out the way have other than genetics and environment? what's so sacred about that?
god doesn't enter the equation with me either.
and, what is exactly is this so-called reason that we came out the way have other than genetics and environment? what's so sacred about that?
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How do you define insecurity? And why would it be unrealistic to view it the way some of us do?
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I said that we came out the way we did because of genetics and nothing more. Some may attribute it to God. I don't really believe in that myself though. I do believe, however, that there are forces at work that humans cannot perceive or ever even comprehend.
It all really boils down to this: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If you have a normal, healthy and functioning body, then why mess with it?
I said that we came out the way we did because of genetics and nothing more. Some may attribute it to God. I don't really believe in that myself though. I do believe, however, that there are forces at work that humans cannot perceive or ever even comprehend.
It all really boils down to this: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If you have a normal, healthy and functioning body, then why mess with it?