When should I run?

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Klipse

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I know it's best to lift and do cardio after, but I like running when I wake up before I eat. So is it better to run when I wake up and workout later on after I have some breakfast and lunch in my system? Or should I just run after I workout?

What are the benefits of these two scenarios?
 
If you must do it right in the am doing it on your not lifting days. If you run before lifting then you are going to have less effective weight training.

Otherwise do it after lifting, or don't expect results to be the same.
 
Klipse said:
But if I run after I have food in my system, will it be less effective for lowering my bf%?
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fasted cardio is the most effective because it forces you to use your stored fat as fuel. I suggest not eating a couple hours before you do cardio. Try also using HIIT cardio. It helps counteract the "use food for fuel" thing
 
if you train fasted you burn fat and glycogen the rest of the day
if you eat you burn glycogen and fat the rest of the day
over 24hrs they negate each other (same effect)
i would eat have a stronger workout at least some protein.
 
No this is not true, the diffrence in fat-loss between subjects that do fastened state cardio to those who eat is almost the same. And without eating your body is going to take fuel from your lean-muscle. And in turn you burn fewer calories throughout the day.
 
Is there not both an upside and downside: cardio with a carb storage will use those carbs as energy preventing muscle breakdown but at the same time, you burn less fat?

I've read that you should eat an hour before you run but a protein only meal (or very low carbs). Either way, less carbs = more fat burn and more muscle breakdown = losing weight. To me that spells trouble for bulking but a quick method to cut?
 
training (lifting) on an empty stomach = bad. Where is your body getting energy to lift?
cardio (running etc) on an empty stomach = good. After glycogen is depleted.. your fat storage becomes the primary source of energy.
 
niceone said:
training (lifting) on an empty stomach = bad. Where is your body getting energy to lift?
cardio (running etc) on an empty stomach = good. After glycogen is depleted.. your fat storage becomes the primary source of energy.
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NOT TRUE, fat storage does not become your primary sorce of energy. Do you really think you are burning fat while doing cardo? It is the effects throughout the day that matters.

Read Alwyn Cosgrove's article on this:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1074246
Fasted Cardio: Are You F'ing Kidding?

Let's take two twins, both 200 lbs, both training to get lean. One difference: one of them eats two eggs and does 30 minutes of cardio three days per week. The other does 30 minutes of cardio, three days per week and THEN eats two eggs. What's the difference in terms of fat loss after six months? I'll tell you — no ****ing difference. Thirty minutes of steady state cardio will burn about 300 calories. Three times per week = 900 calories. Add that up for 26 weeks and we get 23,400 calories or 6.6 lbs of fat. If doing it fasted burned 30% more (which it doesn't), you're looking at another 2 lbs of fat in that same six month period, or an additional 0.07 pounds per week. Aerobic training doesn't do a hell of a lot for real world fat loss. Even if you're hungry.
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Larrabee said:
NOT TRUE, fat storage does not become your primary sorce of energy. Do you really think you are burning fat while doing cardo? It is the effects throughout the day that matters.

Read Alwyn Cosgrove's article on this:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1074246
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I hate to argue when i dont really consider myself anywhere near an expert on the topic. But i have seen articles that support both arguments. can anyone provide some medical proof before we start a "i read this article by this guy" war
 
junkfoodbad said:
I hate to argue when i dont really consider myself anywhere near an expert on the topic. But i have seen articles that support both arguments. can anyone provide some medical proof before we start a "i read this article by this guy" war
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How true indeed.
 
big angry hippo said:
How true indeed.
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How many names do you want? Craig Ballantyne, John Berardi? I can throw some more out there. They all believe the same thing.

When your body is loooking for something to burn it starts with Carbs, protein stores, then body fat.

What is the point of it if you will lose muscle in the process?? That is why it is reccomended to take in a whey shake with some fish oil. That way your body has somethign to use while you still boost your metabolism for the next 24-26 hours.
 
Larrabee said:
How many names do you want? Craig Ballantyne, John Berardi? I can throw some more out there. They all believe the same thing.
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the keyword here is believe. if i believe that i can survive a plane crash, does that make it true?
 
junkfoodbad said:
the keyword here is believe. if i believe that i can survive a plane crash, does that make it true?
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You know what? I believe they know their ****. Craig has is a world-renowned Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (CSCS), and author of too-many-articles-to-count in magazines such as Men's Health, Men's Fitness, Oxygen, Maximum Fitness, and Muscle and Fitness Hers.
 
Oh ya, and you do know who Dr. John Berardi is right? You better if you think you know anything about fitness and nutrition.
 
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