Sunflower2
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Just read some of your diary and wanted to post and say hey! You're kicking ass so keep it up. I'm having a green tea now as one of your posts reminded me I had some 
Hana xx
Hana xxThe big oak (Quercus) needs to drop some dead limbs!
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Sunflower2
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You're not a jackass. New start today x
Sunflower2
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I'm a English Lit graduate and I often fail completely to make coherent sentences 
Do you fast often? I've researched it a little but haven't found anything concrete to sway me to try it.
Do you fast often? I've researched it a little but haven't found anything concrete to sway me to try it.
Quercus
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Not very often. When I have it is generally 24-32 hours and I drink water and black coffee. Sometimes I do it and it's no problem and other times I do it and feel like I'm dying/loosing my mind. That's why I said I was playing it by ear. I'm fasting, but if I start to feel like hammered dog doo I'll eat.
My degree is in Biology hence the Quercus which is the genus of oak. Technical/scientific writing can destroy your ability to construct sentences that have more life than one pulled from an owner's manual. My tendency to read shields me somewhat.
My degree is in Biology hence the Quercus which is the genus of oak. Technical/scientific writing can destroy your ability to construct sentences that have more life than one pulled from an owner's manual. My tendency to read shields me somewhat.
Don Keykong
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Sorry you had a bad day, Q! Remember, today has no memory of yesterday when it comes to following your plan. Every day I need to act as if it's the first day of my plan and execute it. If I do, great! If I don't ... ah well, get it tomorrow. You're getting stronger and healthier everyday.
Quercus
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Thanks Don I needed that. I'm trying to make up for it a bit as I am motivated to get to the 3teens by Saturday. I'm certainly still on task and heading to the eventual end of being fat.
I've also decided to choose a long term weight. I haven't up until now because I am focusing on a < 40" belly circumfrence. I've decided it would be nice to say x pounds to go. To have a gauge on how far I've come and how far I have left. My weight is a guess for the most part, but the hope is that it isn't drastic, but might be where I want to be. 245 I realize that will sound heavy to most, but I'm accounting for starting back to powerlifting at some point and I haven't been at 245 since I was a child.
So SW 349.2 CW 321.0 GW 245 28.2 pounds lost 76 pounds left for a total loss of 104.2 pounds. 27% complete. This goal may move as I progress, but it is a starting point.
I've also decided to choose a long term weight. I haven't up until now because I am focusing on a < 40" belly circumfrence. I've decided it would be nice to say x pounds to go. To have a gauge on how far I've come and how far I have left. My weight is a guess for the most part, but the hope is that it isn't drastic, but might be where I want to be. 245 I realize that will sound heavy to most, but I'm accounting for starting back to powerlifting at some point and I haven't been at 245 since I was a child.
So SW 349.2 CW 321.0 GW 245 28.2 pounds lost 76 pounds left for a total loss of 104.2 pounds. 27% complete. This goal may move as I progress, but it is a starting point.
Don Keykong
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I am happy if anything I have said has helped, my friend. You're a strong, smart dude, motivated, and living a much healthier lifestyle than just a few months ago. Don't believe me? Go back and read your first post in this thread (I just did!) and look how far you've come. Feel free to remind me to do the same when I am feeling "off" at some point in the future. You and I know what we have to do and how to do it... we just need a gentle nudge occasionally to not let our emotions get in the way of our perfectly good brains.
I like that you're setting a weight goal. I'd like to do the same but can't because I'm too far away. Maybe when I'm a slim 321 pounds I can do it. That having been said, I have chosen as a 'soft target" -- 240 pounds as my target weight. Like you, I think others may think that's still to heavy, but it's a start. Besides, when you're really fat to start, the first 80% of weight loss will likely come off entirely differently than the last 20%. If I can maintain an aggressive loss rate through 250... then that's awesome. After that, if I can find a slower, more long-term stable lifestyle that allows me to comfortably slip off another 20-30 pounds, then that'll be gravy... well, not gravy, but you know what I mean...
See you in the 200s later in 2013, Q.
I like that you're setting a weight goal. I'd like to do the same but can't because I'm too far away. Maybe when I'm a slim 321 pounds I can do it.
That having been said, I have chosen as a 'soft target" -- 240 pounds as my target weight. Like you, I think others may think that's still to heavy, but it's a start. Besides, when you're really fat to start, the first 80% of weight loss will likely come off entirely differently than the last 20%. If I can maintain an aggressive loss rate through 250... then that's awesome. After that, if I can find a slower, more long-term stable lifestyle that allows me to comfortably slip off another 20-30 pounds, then that'll be gravy... well, not gravy, but you know what I mean... See you in the 200s later in 2013, Q.
Quercus
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Heck yes you will! Thanks a lot man! Your last couple posts will be ones that I revisit to help me keep my head on straight.
Don Keykong
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Anytime, Q! I am serious about hittin' a PDX or SEA tapas bar with you someday.... or a killer BBQ place in Texas.
Man, why do I have so many food references in my posts?! Gravy, tapas, grilled meat. What's the deal?
-Cory-
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I know this feeling. Reading my fellow engineers' papers is like watching paint dry. I have to believe I have faired a little better, also because of my love for reading.
Be careful fasting! I've never tried it. I'm not sure I could do it, to be honest.
Quercus
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Lifting, situps, and pushups didn't happen. I was spent after the hour on the bike. I guess the work I did before was more taxing than it felt. I'm feeling a bit under the weather this morning. I stirred up a lot of dust and pollen last night moving things around in my carport so hopefully it's just allergies.
Don Keykong
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Great job on the bike, Q! Three days ago was my best workout since I started this. Two days ago I had plans to tear up the bike, the DVDs and set off a flurry of pushups and crunches. Instead, i did the minimums and quit. Finding a day when the heart and the body are in alignment can be tough.
MrVee
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I've found that physical exhaustion sneaks up on you pretty quick these days (unlike in my 20s). You're great, great, great and then you're done.
Maybe it's different for men and women and that's why you hear different descriptions of pitfalls, but the number one obstacle for me in all of this so far is 'patience.' It's just very hard to accept sometimes that there's no way you can lose it all by next week or next month or even the next three months. And you get pissed at yourself for letting things get out of hand to this degree that it takes so long to fix it.
But in a way it can be a good thing. 'Instant gratification' isn't necessarily a healthy emotion anyway even for things not related to weight and health issues. I've always struggled with it and continue to struggle with it, but I feel like the last nine months have been a positive in that it's starting to sink in that sometimes you actually can wait for things. It doesn't always have to be "carpe diem." Sometimes patience really is a virtue.
Maybe it's different for men and women and that's why you hear different descriptions of pitfalls, but the number one obstacle for me in all of this so far is 'patience.' It's just very hard to accept sometimes that there's no way you can lose it all by next week or next month or even the next three months. And you get pissed at yourself for letting things get out of hand to this degree that it takes so long to fix it.
But in a way it can be a good thing. 'Instant gratification' isn't necessarily a healthy emotion anyway even for things not related to weight and health issues. I've always struggled with it and continue to struggle with it, but I feel like the last nine months have been a positive in that it's starting to sink in that sometimes you actually can wait for things. It doesn't always have to be "carpe diem." Sometimes patience really is a virtue.
Quercus
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I cycle in my moments of being rather zen about it having the attitude of I'm doing it and it will happen when it happens to really self-defeating pity parties of thinking that I'm doing everything right and it isn't working. The zen cycles are becoming longer and more frequent the longer I do this.
Instant gratification is only gratifying in the instant when it comes to indulgence. A bunch of tiny windows of feeling from okay to bliss in a miserable unhealthy body. At first I thought that I was giving up these highs to get rid of the lows. In other words giving up the spikes of pleasure that you get from overindulgence to avoid the following physical and emotional low that always follows. The reality is that it's a pretty steady upward slope of feeling better and better to where I'm beginning to understand that I don't need those highs if I feel good most of the time.
Instant gratification is only gratifying in the instant when it comes to indulgence. A bunch of tiny windows of feeling from okay to bliss in a miserable unhealthy body. At first I thought that I was giving up these highs to get rid of the lows. In other words giving up the spikes of pleasure that you get from overindulgence to avoid the following physical and emotional low that always follows. The reality is that it's a pretty steady upward slope of feeling better and better to where I'm beginning to understand that I don't need those highs if I feel good most of the time.