Sparrows Experiment

Legs sore from yesterdays weights. Ran 9 miles at a total of 1:12:15. Average 8:00 miles :) I had no idea of my pace until my final time. Felt awesome and could have kept going.
 
Hey Katie,

I did a little research from the results of the sprint triathlon I am doing in June (it will be my second after the March 9 one). When you look at the overall results and the individual results of the swim, bike, and run, you see something interesting:

Of the 50 fastest swimmers, 16 finished worse than 100th place (out of 500 entrants) and of those 5 finished worse than 200th place and 3 finished worse than 300th place. Of the fastest runners, 5 finished worse than 100th place and the worst was 146. But, of the bikers, 0 finished worse than 100th.

So, the lesson is? I'm not sure. It could be that the swim portion is less important to the overall finish than the biking and running, which is what you suspected, right? Or, it could mean that swimmers who gravitate to tris are less able to compete in the biking and running legs than bikers and runners are able to compete in the swimming leg.

I thought this was interesting.
 
wow Sparow-- THAT'S AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC RUN!!!

Derwyddon- we are endurance athletes, trying for iron distance events, WE ARE ALWAYS sore. Don't let her try and pull yer heart strings.

G8r80- JUST SWIM, when you find the resistance points, tell Sparrow about them, and then incorporate the fixes she gives you. Stop going back to zero. Less thinking, more stroking. ;) that sounded funny.
 
G8r. In my opinion swimmers are drawn to triathlons because there are few events for adult swimmers and it seems like the next best choice in competition. Besides Masters sprint meets and a few lonely open water swims there isn't anything like they used to have in age group swimming as far as competition. SO they start triathlons. Most have little to no experience running for any length of time (because swimming is a very demanding and selfish sport, they find themselves constantly back in the water), similarly, most have little to no experience biking, especially on a road bike. If they do get into triathlons most are doing it with mountain bikes for a while because getting a road bike is both expensive and "too serious" lol. It means investing in another sport, and as it is, swimming can be expensive.

The other thing swimmers do is rely heavily on there strength in the water. They train a lot in the pool, which they obviously don't need to do, do a little running, and even less biking because they lack the endurance land cardio offers (again, because they are always in the pool). As you have found swimming and biking are just two different bears. Swimmers turned triathletes think the swim is going to put them out there at the front enough to keep them out there so they don't train the other legs as hard. If the order was something like bike first, run second and swim last maybe their priorities would be different. The second tri I did last year was an OLY. I was 2nd in my age group to get out of the water. I was passing the slow guy swimmers on the bike (the heats alternated guy/gal by 5 minutes) and felt pretty virtuous until some VERY fast female bikers started wizzing right by me. Gals I probably long had passed up on the swim, but whose forte was biking or running. It took no time at all for them to get enough speed to pass me up. While I held my own in that race, those were ultimately the girls who placed ahead of me.

One more thing to note. Bikers have an advantage in two ways. One being the bike is the longest segment of a triathlon. If you suck on the swim, you CAN make it up on the bike because you have time and then you CAN stay ahead on the run if you have a big enough lead on your bike, even if you're a sucky runner. Two being that biking actually HELPS your running, but running will not help your biking. I have gone an entire season of NO running due to injury and biked in its place. I came back FASTER than when I left with no extra conditioning required. I picked up running where I left off after MONTHS of being out! SO with that said, if you are a good runner, it doesn't mean you will be a good biker BUT if you're a good biker you have more than a fighting chance at the run and thats 2/3 of your entire race right there!

Anyway, that was a good observation you made and there is a lot of reason for it, its not just coincidence. YOU will have a great advantage going into that triathlon. It is important you can more than get by on the swim. Mostly you only need to be at a place that the swim doesn't tire you for the rest of your race. But as far as the rest, if you can get the swim down, it'll be cake.
 
Derwyddon- we are endurance athletes, trying for iron distance events, WE ARE ALWAYS sore. Don't let her try and pull yer heart strings.

This is true. If I'm not always sore somewhere I feel like I'm not working hard enough! BUT I know your point too, Sara. Sore body parts are more prone to injury. I've been learning what kind of sore is bad to train on (like take another day off) and what you can push through. Sometimes I get in the middle of something and modify because the "bad" sore can creep in and I know I'm about to hurt something :) Its taken me a long time to tune into this. Mostly cause I'm stubborn and dind't want to tune in :D
 
hour spin class
3000 swim-lots of hypoxic stuff.

Mondays are rough all around aren't they? :(
 
NROL Fat Loss 3 workout A. Went up 5-10 pounds here and there but nothing worth writing about. Its an exhausting workout, but I've written that before.

After the lifting I ditched my run idea for the stairs and did 45 min on them, which was a good a$$ whoopin all its own. Its the only thing other than spinning that can get my heart rate up near my max. I've had a little difficulty recovering from my long run this weekend. The shins are still flared up so I'm waiting it out another day, hopefully thats all I'll need. Its a hard tempo run I'm due for.
 
Hypoxic stuff??? PLEASE teach me what that is, what it is for, how it helps. I hear that word in "certain" circles.

FF

The word means a deficiency of oxygen reaching the muscle tissues. You've already been doing it! Its the sets I've been putting up here and there with the manipulation of breathing. Anytime you do sets straining your lungs, you are strengthening them. In turn it will make you a better all-around athlete with better lung capacity and more efficient at working through lactic acid. It does wonders, I swear by it
 
Spin class-intervals-tough
2 mile run in 16 min-felt good but I couldn't have done much more

I'm ZAPPED today. My diet is largely fruits and veggies lately due to my stomach issues so the lack of protein is killing me. My diet used to be largely protein. Straight protein hurts my tummy so I've been trying to get other foods with it that settle better. Egg whites do well, but I have to eat a lot of those to make a dent in my protein requirement! anyway, "this too shall pass" but its a real pain in the meantime and I'm having a hard time recovering from my workouts. I switch medications today so we'll see if the new "proton pump" meds work better.
 
Can't eat much dairy
chicken in small amounts
egg whites
fruits-any so far
veggies-any so far
juice-sorta-I can get by in the morning with it
whey powder, if I knock the quantity in half (11g protein at a time)
olive, oils, avocados all okay
tuna (half quantity)

Really it seems I can only digest about 15g protein maximum at a time. I never feel badly after fruits or veggies but the rest is sketchy depending on my hydration, level of exercise, and I'm sure many other factors. Mentally I don't feel tired its just my muscles aren't rebounding very fast. I can work through it but they feel heavy and I bonked today in spin class on a hard interval-that was a first. Maybe I should bring diluted juice in while I spin or something. I'm looking at my long run of 10mi due tomorrow or Friday and just wondering how that will go. If I cut my pace down I'm sure I'll be fine. The 8 min pace I did last weekend on the 9 miler was stupid, I should know better. Maybe the week is just one big recovery from that run. I'm not sure.
 
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Has your stomach suddenly taken a turn for the worse randomly, or are you sick? Because one is okay, the other is scary.

Since Christmas I have had a stomach issue. I went into urgent care the weekend before Christmas, they misdiagnosed me...I went later that week to my regular dr who did an exam and found (which I already knew) I have blood in my stools (sorry everyone!lol) so she ordered a lot of blood work, an abdominal ultrasound and an upper GI series test. I've done everything but the GI. THey keep pushing the date back. I have to be endoscoped for it. The bood work came back mostly okay. I was boarderline on some things having to do with kidneys, but nobody seemed worried. The abdominal ultrasound showed nothing. So I wait for the GI people to call for that appt. Since that first weekend I have learned which foods work and which don't, but to answer your question, it was suddenly THEN. its not been a gradual thing. It was one morning of intense pain which sparked all this. They've ruled out gallstones and now think its a bleeding ulcer at the base of the esophogus, beginning of stomach. To confirm they'll do the GI thing.
I'm on meds that help a LOT. THe discomfort I have now is just an irritating one, not any aggressive pain or anything.
 
Yeah my dr knows. She said as long as my blood count stays stable its fine, and it has. She also suggested a vegetarian diet with some juicing as we continue to figure out the issue. She said some people have actually healed faster and completely with holistic means than medication. I thought that was funny info coming from a regular MD. They're usually so into shoving meds down your throat. I'm actually good with that and I'm drawing up a food plan to start as well as I'm trying to track down a juicer. Any ideas on food combos that would be good? Beans are out-they really hurt me.
 
Hmm. I guess I'd be making a lot of "kitchen sink" salads.

Might even allow you to eat more chicken/tuna etc. at a time by using the fruits, vegetables and nuts as a buffer? I'm definitely not an expert.

I notice you made no mention of breads or grains? I'd also be trying to eat a lot of burrito. I know I can get a decent quantity of egg white down if I load it up with salsa and wrap it in something.
 
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you have WILL that can KILL! So do I.... and i'd rather go out panting and puking then playing it cautious and feeling luke warm. BUT! yer not me. not completely anyway!
 
Hmm. I guess I'd be making a lot of "kitchen sink" salads.

Might even allow you to eat more chicken/tuna etc. at a time by using the fruits, vegetables and nuts as a buffer? I'm definitely not an expert.

I notice you made no mention of breads or grains? I'd also be trying to eat a lot of burrito. I know I can get a decent quantity of egg white down if I load it up with salsa and wrap it in something.

I've tried with the "buffer" approach and all I know is that when I consume too much protein I have issues. I make omelets with 8 whites right now and that goes down fine. I love egg whites. When I eat the nuts, salads, veggies without the protein, I'm good. I don't eat a lot of breads anyway. I never have. They make me feel sluggish, unmotivated and off my game. If and when I do, its when I feel depleted in the carb category or need it during a long ride or training day... and even then its not that much. My body typically cooperates with this type of diet. It seems weird to be able to be such an endurance athlete and be relatively low carb, but its always been that way for me and my energy doesn't seem to suffer for it. I'm not eating anything different than I ever have before, the only difference is the lack of protein. Before all this I was getting about 140g of protein a day. I bet I don't even reach half that now. My muscles are craving it.

FF-I'm with ya on all that.
 
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