Hey man, I didnt really mean to call you a liar- all i meant was that you need to state you opinions as opinions not facts. But i agree i could have worded myself better and apologize for any offense-Oh and I don't really appreciate being called a liar. My opinion regarding ellipticals comes from many years of coaching others and forming an opinion based on that.
If you have some evidence comparing the effectiveness of the elliptical to other forms of cardio and met con I'd gladly read through it.
i went to one of the sites my gym uses before considering any new equipment. you may find the info as suprising as i did- enjoy.
i think we all have ADD because we still cannot stay on topic LOL