most effective art?

Martial arts

Try a few schools out and go with the one yoiu are most comfortable with. Most MA schools will give you your first class for free. It's good to find a school that is well rounded. The arts that I have trained in and have found to be the most practical are BJJ, Judo, Muay Thai, Krav, and Boxing. These are a great mix of self defense, standup arts, and ground fighting/defense. You may want to find a school that mixes things up a bit. JMO

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Krav Maga, or Boxing would be my picks.
 
I just had some fun tonight, I just did Wang Chung tonight.
Sorry I thought it was funny.

I enjoy reading descriptions about styles, as I want my son to learn some martial art (I know he was just born a week ago) once hes a few years older, and hell dad might do it to. I was thinking a form of Kung Fu over Karate or TKD. Maybe we could start a whats what in certain styles thread. hmmm
 
i think taekwondo is really effective. im a red belt , and i learned that a good kick can bring your opponent on the floor, and plus with you throwin all those super-quick kicks and punches at your opponent, he'll go down and back off. although it has quite effective long-range kicks, close-range is not as effective as aikido or judo....but still deadly
 
i guess he means like, a benifit of jujitsu is good grappling if taken to the ground and you can take people to the ground. stuff like that, but ofcource, im no mindreader:p
 
I think that has truth to it. However, it is only in the sense that you never experience what other systems do. Like you've never fought a grappler in your life. But I am confident one can be an optimal combatant from learning from one complete system of MA. This of course, while experiencing other styles without having to learn them.
 
aevans410 said:
nah you're on the right track...

if you want something thats gonna protect you from the average thug, go with a striking art first (karate, kung fu) because ju jitsu will only help you if the fight goes to the ground. With a striking art, you will probably keep that from happening. A guy attacks you, a well placed punch, kick, or strike can deter them long enough for you to escape.

Trust me, if Im grabbed out on the street, i can most definitely get loose and hurt someone :)
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I have been trainned by the US Army in BJJ. I am no expert but I am authorized to train basic combatives to our soldiers. I have also take what the army calls Loins trainning. I have only done a day of loins trainning so I wont get into that to much. Now, there are 3 steps to BJJ. 1. close the distance to your enemy and take them down, 2. Establish a dominate fighting position, 3. apply finishing move (could be a arm bar or a blood choke pending on the position your in). I have taught BJJ to my dad and he has use it to get guys half his age to submit while trying out for a law enforcement job. I have also take out guys who weight 80lbs more then I do. So, dont count out BJJ. I try not to get into fights, but unfortunitly I couldnt get out of one durring a incident. BJJ helped me out greatly because the first thing the other person did was try to get me onto the ground. His mistake. Now as for the other style I mentioned earlier, what I did learn was good stuff. I only had a few days of trainning, but they were full days not the 1 hour sessions you may do at your local club. I was taught how to well........kill someone if I were to ever get into a headlock. They also taught us the same move but in a non-lethal ending. What I feel it all comes down to is muscle memory. Which means, continue to practice something until it becomes second nature to you and then you will be able to hold your own if need be, just dont go looking around for trouble though.
 
if the opponent isent trained in grappling, i think i striker would have no problem getting loose and hurting them, but if they are trained in grappling, its a completley different story, the striker could get loose, ofcource, but i wouldnt count my life/face on it:p
 
A striker with plenty of experience against grappling can effectively take out a grappler. Grappling, which was once the newest and greatest thing is losing it's novelty. That is to say, it's still effective, but it's not the answer to everything anymore. People are learning to defuse it better and better. Strikers defeating grapplers is becoming more common in The UFC, for example.
 
yeah, but if you dont have alot of experience against a grappler. and im just saying its wise to have knowledge about both.
 
Ah, well that's what I'm saying. What you said sounded like a huge generalization which, at the same time, wrote striking (in general) off agains any grappling.
 
Very fun link. I feel bad for repping striking with no experience in grappling, which is what I both need and desire. Still, it's not as black and white anymore, in terms of grapplers 100% of the time beating the strikers.
 
IMO, there's no MOST EFFECTIVE ART, nowadays, its far more efficient and practical to cross train, I would take up Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling and any striking arts, preferably, Muay Thai, that would be a very effective combination.

Striking, Takedowns, Ground Control, and Submissions. = EFFECTIVE ARTS =)
 
I'd throw in some hardcore gymnastics, tkd, wushu, and ninjitsu for some air control too, LOL. Gotta have my air force operational! Hhahahahahaha
 
Karky said:
i think ju-jitsu has an 18 year old limit in norway :p im only 17 :(
and like, street fights, atleast here, normally consist of some thug grabbing a hold of you, or first punching you then grabbing a hold of you. defending against that would be grappling? if so, thats the kind of thing ill need.

and how can u find out if a school is teaching it as a sport and less self defence? anything specific to look for?
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Hey Karky do you live in Bergen? If you do there is a great kung fu school in Bergen.

It's run by sifu Ivar Boxaspen, he put norwegian kung fu on the map.

The style taught is Hung Gar, it's a grounded up close and personal fighting style. For the short time I did it I loved it, great people and hard ass training.

Much better than Wushu, which is basically just for show.

But to be honest if you're going to get into fights in the streets you can't go wrong with Muay Thai.
 
dont live in Bergen.. i live in Mo i Rana:p which im pretty sure no one has ever heard of:p
 
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