most effective art?
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okay, i asked a dude i know who plays karate, he said they sparr for points, guess ill figure out when the next jujitsu practice is then, hope i can talk someone inn to going with me
maybe my girlfriend, nothing is more fun than a propper fight with ur gf lol
read some on the jujitsu guys homepage, they said that they base it on moves you might actually have use for and that they rule out the very complicated things that you really wont need in a self defence situation as there often are lots of factors that makes a huge difference and when ur scared, sweatty and the adrenaline is flowing.
Jigo Ryu is the kind they teach there i think. their beginners class started in january, do i have to wait until a new beginners class starts or can i jump inn now without too much difficulity?
i have no martial art experience, though i dont stand without a clue when it comes to basic punches, kicks, stances and guards.
maybe my girlfriend, nothing is more fun than a propper fight with ur gf lolread some on the jujitsu guys homepage, they said that they base it on moves you might actually have use for and that they rule out the very complicated things that you really wont need in a self defence situation as there often are lots of factors that makes a huge difference and when ur scared, sweatty and the adrenaline is flowing.
Jigo Ryu is the kind they teach there i think. their beginners class started in january, do i have to wait until a new beginners class starts or can i jump inn now without too much difficulity?
i have no martial art experience, though i dont stand without a clue when it comes to basic punches, kicks, stances and guards.
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The best Martial Arts?
If you are looking for the ultimate defense in a close up street fight, I would have to advise good striking art, I have personally trained in Ninjitsu, Jeet Kun Do, and Mantis Kung Fu, for 27, 23, and 16 years respectfully.
I have engaged in combat in many different combat situations (street fights 1 on 1 and even 6 on 1), in Chicago, New York, Los Angelas, and many other Major Cities, and I have not lost one fight in my entire life, least of all with a grappler. With good training in any of the Arts I have studied, or any of the likes, you should be able to take on most combat situations, with great confidence, and success.
For the most part, Grapplers are reliant on circumstance, and trying to keep you off balance, if you can see the attacker coming, especially a grappler, and you can react quick enough, you should be able to drop your attacker with one well placed attack, atleast lomg enough to get away.
If you are looking for the ultimate defense in a close up street fight, I would have to advise good striking art, I have personally trained in Ninjitsu, Jeet Kun Do, and Mantis Kung Fu, for 27, 23, and 16 years respectfully.
I have engaged in combat in many different combat situations (street fights 1 on 1 and even 6 on 1), in Chicago, New York, Los Angelas, and many other Major Cities, and I have not lost one fight in my entire life, least of all with a grappler. With good training in any of the Arts I have studied, or any of the likes, you should be able to take on most combat situations, with great confidence, and success.
For the most part, Grapplers are reliant on circumstance, and trying to keep you off balance, if you can see the attacker coming, especially a grappler, and you can react quick enough, you should be able to drop your attacker with one well placed attack, atleast lomg enough to get away.
Test- Two of the forms which you mentioned rely extensivly on locks (Jeet Kun Do, Bruce Lee's amalgam of boxing and various styles of kung fu, and Mantis Kung Fu, heavily reliant on striking while the opponent is trapped hence the name) for their defensive mechanisms. As for ninjitsu, any study of unarmed combat is a very small portion of what makes up the tradition basis for this art.
aharris84-Jeet Kun Do is hardly a grapple art, I have practiced the art for many years now, it is more a combination of boxing, and Kung Fu or (Gong Fu), obviously there is some grappling involved, but only to a small degree, it was created to be the ultimate in Martial Arts, and relies quite a bit on the concept of redirection of your opponents momentum to put him where you want him, works really well against the largely predictable attacks of grapplers, then you combine that with the use of the quick and powerful punches, and kicks up close or from afar, again usually very effective on a grappler after you have redirected their attacks. Remember the Art of fighting without fighting was Bruces concept.
As pertaining to Mantis style Gong Fu, the Art as you stated makes use of locks and holds, but that is not the basis of the Art. Last but not least, I'll address the matter of Ninjitsu, this great Art is far from standard, and atleast as far as the Ancient form of the Art is concerned, it does very much address the best of ways to thwart the attacks of a grappler, and end the career, or more if needed, of any would be opponent, it also teaches the ideas of meditation , and the Technique of Antisipation and quick and effective ways to incapacitate, or kill your opponent rapidly, often through the use of very specific pressure points.
As pertaining to Mantis style Gong Fu, the Art as you stated makes use of locks and holds, but that is not the basis of the Art. Last but not least, I'll address the matter of Ninjitsu, this great Art is far from standard, and atleast as far as the Ancient form of the Art is concerned, it does very much address the best of ways to thwart the attacks of a grappler, and end the career, or more if needed, of any would be opponent, it also teaches the ideas of meditation , and the Technique of Antisipation and quick and effective ways to incapacitate, or kill your opponent rapidly, often through the use of very specific pressure points.
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i dont know what lineage is.
and please keep in mind that in my town there is only Karate, judo and jujitsu. and karate is tought more like a sport with points in their sparring stuff. and is jujitsu all grappling? i saw some pictures and it seemed to me like they were punching and kicking.
and please keep in mind that in my town there is only Karate, judo and jujitsu. and karate is tought more like a sport with points in their sparring stuff. and is jujitsu all grappling? i saw some pictures and it seemed to me like they were punching and kicking.
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Great info in this thread. I just thought this was worth a chuckle.
lol did i say play hahahhaa thats funny! i mean i know a dude who does karate
Mcdojo, like MCdonalds i would guess americanized ****, just wants money? anyways, im gonna go check out a jujitsu practice hopefuly tomorrow i just hope i wont have to wait until their next beginners cource starts
and most martial arts dojo things have their own kind of strenght program it seems, which bothers me as it would effect my own training if i were to do pushups and situps on the days that im really off the gym.
did i say play hahahhaa thats funny! i mean i know a dude who does karateMcdojo, like MCdonalds i would guess
americanized ****, just wants money? anyways, im gonna go check out a jujitsu practice hopefuly tomorrow i just hope i wont have to wait until their next beginners cource startsand most martial arts dojo things have their own kind of strenght program it seems, which bothers me as it would effect my own training if i were to do pushups and situps on the days that im really off the gym.
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LeiYunFat- My Lineage is French, Italian, German, Japanese, and Mongolian, I have relation, unfortunately, to Genghis Kahn (Ancestor), My instructor in the way of Ninjitsu is Iyama Yakaruzu, Master of IGA Ninjitsu, private instructor, and friend of my fatherfrom the Vietnam Era, he died about 4 years ago, I have since been trying to find another instructor in the same form, but have had no luck, so I have continued on my own for the last 4 years. So, whats your lineage, out of curiosity?
Karky, I'd say out of your choices, you might like the jujitsu class. If it's a good jujitsu school it will cover all ranges of combat. What is typically seen is BJJ and you only see the "wrestling around on the ground" aspect which is only a portion of what the various jujitsu schools cover.
As far as JKD is concerned, each instructor can be as different as night and day. For example, Dan I. has a lot of Kali emphasis in his JKD which includes a lot of stick/knife, trapping and grappling. However, depending on the base art of the instructor, it may look a lot differen than anothers JKD school.
As far as JKD is concerned, each instructor can be as different as night and day. For example, Dan I. has a lot of Kali emphasis in his JKD which includes a lot of stick/knife, trapping and grappling. However, depending on the base art of the instructor, it may look a lot differen than anothers JKD school.
Test, that ain't what I mean by like...your ethnicity. How about for praying mantis? What is the lineage of your jkd?
My fook ku kuen form was taught to me by my uncle, who while a kid in China, studied under Lei Li Cho. According to my uncle, my fook fu is a regional alteration of Hung Ga's Gung Ji Fook Fu Kuen. My first shaolin form was taught to me by Shi Xing Wei, a 34th generation shaolin "monk". The only thing I learned from him was the form, which is the beginner's form. Since I was under his instruction for a very brief visit, it was the only thing I picked up.
I learned many of my drills and a form I've already forgotten from a man who practiced Choy Lei Fut gong fu. I don't know what his lineage is, I've since lost all contact with him.
My fook ku kuen form was taught to me by my uncle, who while a kid in China, studied under Lei Li Cho. According to my uncle, my fook fu is a regional alteration of Hung Ga's Gung Ji Fook Fu Kuen. My first shaolin form was taught to me by Shi Xing Wei, a 34th generation shaolin "monk". The only thing I learned from him was the form, which is the beginner's form. Since I was under his instruction for a very brief visit, it was the only thing I picked up.
I learned many of my drills and a form I've already forgotten from a man who practiced Choy Lei Fut gong fu. I don't know what his lineage is, I've since lost all contact with him.
LeiYunFat, in refference to my Mantis, I was trained by a man by the name of Allen Moreau, he taught me for about 3 months before he dissapeared, he didnt go into any detail, in refference to his lineage, and said nothing about his past, my father unfortunately got suspicious of him, and started to check up on him, and that was as they say was that, since then I have hunted down all instructional information I could find. My instructor in the way of Ninjitsu, was also my instructor in JKD, I cannot go into lineage, in regards to my JKD, sorry.
This is mostly for karky, but lineage is a good judge on how legit a martial arts instructor is, although it isn't necessarily the only gauge...
My lineage can be traced back to Gichin Funakoshi himself. My Sensei's Sensei was trained by Kanazawa Sensei who himself was trained by Nakayama Sensei, Who is chief instructor of the Japan Karate Association. Nakayama Sensei was a student of Master Funakoshi.
My lineage can be traced back to Gichin Funakoshi himself. My Sensei's Sensei was trained by Kanazawa Sensei who himself was trained by Nakayama Sensei, Who is chief instructor of the Japan Karate Association. Nakayama Sensei was a student of Master Funakoshi.