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no improvements in pain levels but I have a new toy I will be teaching myself to use, hubby got me an artists spray gun an 4 litre compressor, now I just have to get some suitable paint lol. I should be able to get some realistic blending on some of my dioramas now.

food has been good today
 
At least you'll have a distraction. I hope holding it steady for longer won't be too hard on your neck. I'd love to see some pics of your projects, by the way.
 
so do I lol

yesterday had only 1 blip for my food intake, I had some vodka last night, at least it is a low carb alcohol
 
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This is a moat-house I am building for a game, it does not look much at the moment as I has just been sealed and had mud banks added which is currently drying (hopefully it dries before bub gets picked up from childcare as it is sitting in the middle of my living room at the moment) The dimensions are 900 X 1200 mm

When it is finished it will no longer look like the plaster and foam it is constructed out of.

I am in a little less pain today, so able to get some things done while bub is at childcare. Also had our new cook-top and oven installed, I have been without an oven for a while as the old one died and it can be difficult to get a sparky for the installation at times.
 
Hi Tru, so sorry to hear about your accident. I hope you are getting massage or acupressure or something nice for your neck.

Is this an ok time to ask more about keto? If not, please let me know if you need time to heal, and I'll ask another time! Anyway, in case you don't mind, I looked at a cookbook on Amazon by Dr. Berg, and it was sooo much bacon and dairy, and dairy makes me break out. Just looking at this page of your diary it doesn't look like a big grease-fest, so looks like you could do it sensibly. I used to incorporate a lot of paleo into my cooking until my fuss-pot kid noticed the coconut flour. I have managed to sneak almond flour back in though. Anyway, where would you recommend someone who doesn't care for much dairy and grease start, especially if the idea of fasting while trying to increase exercise sounds scary? I am currently doing about 30 minutes of jogging and 20 minutes of resistance weights about twice a week, and will increase to 3 times a week soon, so not sure I am up for a lot of fasting at the moment. I have been doing about 1,400 calories of pretty healthy food with an occasional bread product thrown in, so I am pretty good at eating healthy in general. Also do you have to eat like this for life? I would miss fruit! Thanks in advance!!!
 
You know what, I was going to delete my question until you are feeling better, but it's past the time limit to do so. Please disregard and I will research more and ask you things when you are feeling better!

PS Your model looks awesome!
 
Hi Tru, so sorry to hear about your accident. I hope you are getting massage or acupressure or something nice for your neck.

Is this an ok time to ask more about keto? If not, please let me know if you need time to heal, and I'll ask another time! Anyway, in case you don't mind, I looked at a cookbook on Amazon by Dr. Berg, and it was sooo much bacon and dairy, and dairy makes me break out. Just looking at this page of your diary it doesn't look like a big grease-fest, so looks like you could do it sensibly. I used to incorporate a lot of paleo into my cooking until my fuss-pot kid noticed the coconut flour. I have managed to sneak almond flour back in though. Anyway, where would you recommend someone who doesn't care for much dairy and grease start, especially if the idea of fasting while trying to increase exercise sounds scary? I am currently doing about 30 minutes of jogging and 20 minutes of resistance weights about twice a week, and will increase to 3 times a week soon, so not sure I am up for a lot of fasting at the moment. I have been doing about 1,400 calories of pretty healthy food with an occasional bread product thrown in, so I am pretty good at eating healthy in general. Also do you have to eat like this for life? I would miss fruit! Thanks in advance!!!


Keto Basics

The only absolute in keto is your carb limit, staying under 50 grams will keep most people in keto, I like to stay under 20 grams but if I go slightly over it is no big deal. Most of those carbs should come from green veg and you only count net carbs from green veg so that is a lot of good healthy nutrition right there.

next is protein, which is crucial for maintaining lean mass, you don't want to loose a heap of weight and still look flabby. The amount you need will depend on how much lean mass you have and what exercise you do, so you should have your bodyfat % measured. by this stage you should be hitting most of your nutritional needs.

Lastly fat. fat is a lever, it controls how fast you loose fat or gain muscle, it provides calories and some of the nutrients which are fat soluble.

you do not need to pack up on fat bombs, bacon or even dairy if it is a problem. I do eat bacon, but not every week, it is a treat and good smoked bacon is expensive lol. you want you body burning your excess bodyfat for energy, not fat you put in your mouth.

When changing to a keto diet, the big loss you see in the beginning is water loss, often people make the mistake of thinking they have lost a heap in the first couple of weeks, go back to carbs and put it all back on again.

for keto to work you need to be consistent, it takes time to fully adapt (1 month minimum) as the body adapts to become more efficient at converting fat to energy. Once adapted there are advanced forms of keto which make use of a very controlled addition of extra carbs but they are of benefit for those doing extreme exercise and building muscle, CKD and TKD should only be done after being fully adapted to a regular keto diet.

While adapting this is where you see some of the problems. Firstly lack of energy, this is not from lack of carbs but electrolyte problems, in keto you flush a lot of water out of the body and it takes a lot of electrolytes with it, don't try for a low salt diet, salt is needed and to little salt can cause problems. Magnesium is another electrolyte which often needs supplementing, especially if you find yourself getting night cramps. Potassium can occasionally be a problem also, I salt my food with light salt which deals with any potassium problems, so long as you do not have any medical conditions which can be made worse with potassium.

A little fruit, or better berries is ok in small amounts just remember your limits

While keto is a lifestyle choice (fat loss. maintenance or muscle building), it does not have to be for a lifetime if you don't want to lol, when you stop keto you will gain water weight back but you will not be regaining a heap of fat unless your over eating.

so in summary

Carbs are a Limit
Protein is a target
Fat is a lever controlling the rate of loss/gain
 
Thank you so much, Tru!

I looked at a couple of keto sites with a carb estimator, and as I am 28% body fat, and about 40 lbs. overweight, one site said to eat 1567 calories a day/121 g fat/20 g carbs/100 g protein. The other was higher, 2058/167/25/114. I am ordering a nice book called Simply Keto to get started with because my current diet is around 180 grams of carbs a day and 30 grams of fat, and so I don't imagine this will be very intuitive at first.

When you say that fat is a lever controlling the rate of loss/gain, what would you say would be a good minimum for me to make sure I get? Tbh, the idea of that much fat seems a little overwhelming.

Also do you do intermittent fasting? I think I could do fasting where I don't eat until late morning and then not after 6pm. Do you do something like that?

That's so great that I can eat berries though. My garden is full of them! Also, luckily we have high magnesium in the water.

Thank you for all the clarifying info. It's very helpful having a short synopsis!
 
Thank you so much, Tru!

I looked at a couple of keto sites with a carb estimator, and as I am 28% body fat, and about 40 lbs. overweight, one site said to eat 1567 calories a day/121 g fat/20 g carbs/100 g protein. The other was higher, 2058/167/25/114. I am ordering a nice book called Simply Keto to get started with because my current diet is around 180 grams of carbs a day and 30 grams of fat, and so I don't imagine this will be very intuitive at first.

When you say that fat is a lever controlling the rate of loss/gain, what would you say would be a good minimum for me to make sure I get? Tbh, the idea of that much fat seems a little overwhelming.

Also do you do intermittent fasting? I think I could do fasting where I don't eat until late morning and then not after 6pm. Do you do something like that?

That's so great that I can eat berries though. My garden is full of them! Also, luckily we have high magnesium in the water.

Thank you for all the clarifying info. It's very helpful having a short synopsis!

I don't deliberately fast, often on keto you will have a reduced appetite, so eat when hungry, don't force it.

I also generally do not track actual calories most of the time other than as a curiosity, so long as I am getting all of my vitimins and minerals etc I am fine. I may not get hungry till late afternoons some days and will only eat in the morning if I know I won't get a chance to eat later or I am actually hungry.

I don't like sites that push the calories side of things to much, they are a starting point, and depending on an individuals metabolism often need a lot of adjustment through experimentation.

Don't force the fat, it is better to eat a little more protein than forcing yourself to eat fat if hungry. Don't force yourself to eat when not hungry, concentrate on good nutrition over stretching to reach a higher calorie count.

generally for protein you should be getting 1 gram per kg of lean mass (weight-fat weight) pushing up to 1.6 gram if training either strength or endurance.

be aware that there are a couple of approaches to keto, some books and websites will push a very high fat version with little protein, this is not a healthy way of approaching it.

take a look at ketogain, they have a good calculator.
 
Thanks so much, Tru! The ketogain calculator was somewhere in the middle of the two I tried, and I'll put the results in my diary so I can find them for reference. Thanks for the advice on the fats, too. That is a relief, as I feel so much better not eating a lot of fatty things. Now what to do with a house full of beans, lentils, and yams. Luckily, I have a skinny kid I can feed them to.

One last question, do you have a favorite youtuber who is in the not-so-much-fat camp? I was just listening to Thomas Delauer about healthy proteins, and he seems good.
 
Thanks so much, Tru! The ketogain calculator was somewhere in the middle of the two I tried, and I'll put the results in my diary so I can find them for reference. Thanks for the advice on the fats, too. That is a relief, as I feel so much better not eating a lot of fatty things. Now what to do with a house full of beans, lentils, and yams. Luckily, I have a skinny kid I can feed them to.

One last question, do you have a favorite youtuber who is in the not-so-much-fat camp? I was just listening to Thomas Delauer about healthy proteins, and he seems good.

I don't watch much YouTube except for a few how to videos so I am not much help here but there is a video presentation of a diet study which was long but good, I posted the link here at some point but will see if I can find it again, it is a study done by a vegetarian where keto came out on top for all the measured health outcomes.
 
my little one took her first steps this week, 10 months old and walking, now I am in trouble lol.

my pain levels are down this morning, the challenge will be to not over do things while I am feeling ok.
 
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