Journey, Not A Destination

I_love_muscle said:
Awesome!!! Thanks Steve :)

I don't know how you know all this stuff. It's like your brain is a filing cabinet, and I ask a question, you go into the file "P" for "Periodization", and pull out what I need to get me going.

I've already read that book, though ... apparently my comprehension was ZERO or I lapsed into a coma in that chapter :D

I'll go back and take a better look at that later tonight ;)

Hope you have a nice evening, Steve!
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Periodization is simply managing the adaptations your body undergoes within the confines of fatigue and intensity. It's not really a subject so much as it is an understanding or way of thinking about the physiological/biological processes that go on in response to training, and optimizing them.

I haven't read PP in a while but if I remember correctly, it was how he started the book. Or it was at least near the beginning where he talked about stress.

I believe I've told you before but much of what we know about periodization comes from russian scientists. So going to the source is really where the best info is. It's just that stuff can be needlessly complex and dull unless you have a sincere passion for this stuff. In addition, some of the best stuff isn't translated and others is, but poorly.

Mel Siff was as close as you'll ever get to an American who is as well versed in this stuff as the Russians. In fact, some would say he was the greatest. He's the guy who wrote Supertraining, which is just a ridiculous book.

Russian names include, but are not limited to Zatziorsky, Verhoshansky, Viru, Matveyev... the list goes on. These guys are great.

And now that I think about it, I have an excellent Canadian resource you might enjoy. It has some 'reports' written by some of the greats regarding periodization. It's a gold mine of articles.

It can be found .
 
Steve said:
Periodization is simply managing the adaptations your body undergoes within the confines of fatigue and intensity. It's not really a subject so much as it is an understanding or way of thinking about the physiological/biological processes that go on in response to training, and optimizing them.

I haven't read PP in a while but if I remember correctly, it was how he started the book. Or it was at least near the beginning where he talked about stress.

I believe I've told you before but much of what we know about periodization comes from russian scientists. So going to the source is really where the best info is. It's just that stuff can be needlessly complex and dull unless you have a sincere passion for this stuff. In addition, some of the best stuff isn't translated and others is, but poorly.

Mel Siff was as close as you'll ever get to an American who is as well versed in this stuff as the Russians. In fact, some would say he was the greatest. He's the guy who wrote Supertraining, which is just a ridiculous book.

Russian names include, but are not limited to Zatziorsky, Verhoshansky, Viru, Matveyev... the list goes on. These guys are great.

And now that I think about it, I have an excellent Canadian resource you might enjoy. It has some 'reports' written by some of the greats regarding periodization. It's a gold mine of articles.

It can be found .
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Steve, I could just eat you up like a cookie for providing all this info to me!!! THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH!!! :hurray: :hug2:

I took a look at the Supertraining book, and looked over Mel Siff's info on periodization, and it is just ridiculous -- ridiculously awesome :)

But I'll re-read the periodization info in Strength Training first.

You're so freaking intelligent and full of information ... you really are a walking encyclopedia :) You never cease to amaze me :coolgleamA:
 
lol...perv party..ya'll are too funny :)


Anyways I haven't stopped by and said hi in a while...not since christmas....so ....HI! :D Hope stuff is going good for you and the wifey. You guys get the house all in order? We just had to shell out money for plumbing and very soon some roof repairs...awesome being a new home owner, lol. But I don't miss the landlord, that's for sure!
 
I_love_muscle said:
Steve, I could just eat you up like a cookie for providing all this info to me!!! THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH!!! :hurray: :hug2:

I took a look at the Supertraining book, and looked over Mel Siff's info on periodization, and it is just ridiculous -- ridiculously awesome :)

But I'll re-read the periodization info in Strength Training first.

You're so freaking intelligent and full of information ... you really are a walking encyclopedia :) You never cease to amaze me :coolgleamA:
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Thanks Maureen... it's nice when I find someone who is interested in the finer nuances of training so it's my pleasure. :)
 
douknowjello said:
lol...perv party..ya'll are too funny :)


Anyways I haven't stopped by and said hi in a while...not since christmas....so ....HI! :D Hope stuff is going good for you and the wifey. You guys get the house all in order? We just had to shell out money for plumbing and very soon some roof repairs...awesome being a new home owner, lol. But I don't miss the landlord, that's for sure!
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Hey, thanks for stopping in!

:)

Yea, we're all settled in the new house. Unfortunately I haven't had as much free time as I'd like to enjoy it, but that will come. Knock on wood we haven't had to make any major repairs as of yet. Well, we did update the electric but that was the day after we moved in and I knew we were doing it, so I lumped that into the purchase of the home.

I had to fix the dryer last weekend. The belt broke, but that was cheap and not so bad.

For being 300 yrs old, the house is in excellent condition.
 
Steve, been reading your journal here and there(mostly Words of Wisdom stickies). There's definately a lot of info that's been very helpful the last two months since I started dieting.

I picked up the New Rules of Lifting book, and I had a quick question to ask. The book has sample workouts to follow, and it all looks good. But the workouts intended for fat loss have me kind of confused. Are these workouts supposed to be for someone who is dieting? Or are they used to burn calories while at maintenance? I ask because the workouts seem a little intense just for maintenance. But maybe it's just complicated compared to some workouts you've posted for novices.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again
 
tony_salvi said:
Steve, been reading your journal here and there(mostly Words of Wisdom stickies). There's definately a lot of info that's been very helpful the last two months since I started dieting.

I picked up the New Rules of Lifting book, and I had a quick question to ask. The book has sample workouts to follow, and it all looks good. But the workouts intended for fat loss have me kind of confused. Are these workouts supposed to be for someone who is dieting? Or are they used to burn calories while at maintenance? I ask because the workouts seem a little intense just for maintenance. But maybe it's just complicated compared to some workouts you've posted for novices.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks again
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To be honest, I was never too much a fan of that book. The workouts were needlessly complex IMO. That said, there's nothing inherantly wrong about it either. It's fine if you enjoy the workouts. Alwyn Cosgrove, the guy who designed the workouts in that book, tend to like resistance training to be more about caloric expenditure for fat loss than muscle maintenance... at least it seems that way to me.

And this is completely fine for those who have a lot of fat to lose.

The less fat you carry though, the higher the intensity should be IMO for optimal fat loss. By higher intensity, I mean less metabolic properties of the workout (i.e., high rep low rest).

There's many ways to skin a cat and a lot of people have realized progress with the book, so it's certainly worthy of trying.
 
Steve said:
the guy who designed the workouts in that book, tend to like resistance training to be more about caloric expenditure for fat loss than muscle maintenance... at least it seems that way to me
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That's what I was thinking too. Thanks for clearing it up. Saw the same approach in Men's Health Total Body Plan. I think I'll stick to what I've been doing lately, which is IT cardio, and some of the sample workouts you've listed. They seem to be working.


Steve said:
There's many ways to skin a cat and a lot of people have realized progress with the book, so it's certainly worthy of trying.
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That does seem to be the case the more I read around.

Any books you recommend that do mention resistance training for muscle maintenance? Or just Nutrition/Fitness books in general?
 
tony_salvi said:
That's what I was thinking too. Thanks for clearing it up. Saw the same approach in Men's Health Total Body Plan. I think I'll stick to what I've been doing lately, which is IT cardio, and some of the sample workouts you've listed. They seem to be working.
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Don't fix what ain't broke. I can't stress that enough when it comes to this stuff.

Fat loss is extremely simplistic in most cases. Calorie deficit coming from a combo of controlled nutrition and some metabolic work like IT and couple this with some muscle preserving stuff like weight training.

The weight training doesn't need to be anything special at all, and frankly, the most simplistic a routine looks, the better IMO.

That does seem to be the case the more I read around.

Any books you recommend that do mention resistance training for muscle maintenance? Or just Nutrition/Fitness books in general?
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People usually regret asking me that question. I have some book recommendations on my forum (see link in my sig).

You might also check out my commentary here when someone else asked me a similar question.
 
Good stuff Val. Gordy's talking about us doing some ice climbing up in NH when we're there. We'll see how the weather is treating us though.
 
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