when the bench is totally flat -it's managable - it's not too heavy - i'm not straining anything to lift it -and I've been doing 2 sets of 8 - where the 8th rep is not quite a challenge but almost.. (since ginger is my spotter and she's all of 8lbs - I don't go too heavy unless i'm sure i can handle it) As far as I can tell it's smooth...
Journey, Not A Destination
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was really just a curiosity -
it can be my neat new party trick
only i'd have to actually go to parties
it can be my neat new party trick
only i'd have to actually go to parties
bikinibound
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Yup, I agree--baby steps. I don't want to make it so hard for her she gives up in frustration. It doesn't take much to get her heart rate up--that's for sure. She gets out of breath just walking from the living room to the kitchen. I was happy that she found the gym machines doable. The hardest part is probably going from one machine to the next, and getting on it. I usually have to help her. Does this make me her personal trainer?
I've also been helping her with her eating. I figure at her weight, she's got to be burning tons of calories just at rest, and have her eating 1800-2100 calories per day. Do you think that's a good range? I don't want to restrict them too much too soon for fear she'll 1. slow down her metabolism and 2. Give up or binge bc she's starving hungry.That makes 2 of us!!
ya, they kick my ass!
Yes, lower left side mostly. He drives all day, so he thinks that's part of it. I got him a cushion for his back while he's driving, and he says that helps a lot, but he's still hurting. He said he's going to take a yoga class this summer, but I want to help him now.
He devours books like I devour chocolate.
What's the name of the book? I'm sure he'd find it interesting.Sure was. I thought that game was never gonna end! They played over 120min worth, so it's like watching 2 games. I guess you could say it did go to 7 games in a way...lol.
Lmao @ Mal's new party trick and her being too mean to die--my Gran has the same problem
Yup, I agree--baby steps. I don't want to make it so hard for her she gives up in frustration. It doesn't take much to get her heart rate up--that's for sure. She gets out of breath just walking from the living room to the kitchen. I was happy that she found the gym machines doable. The hardest part is probably going from one machine to the next, and getting on it. I usually have to help her. Does this make me her personal trainer?
Nope.
This makes you her savior.
It's a little lower than I'd usually start someone in her shoes out with, but its really an individual thing. Does she seem content with it? The thing is, you aren't around her 24/7 and you don't want to set her up with too restrictive of a diet or she'll almost definitely cheat big time while you aren't aware.
I wouldn't be concerned with her metabolism slowing down.... obese people can handle some pretty huge deficits without metabolic slowdowns.
The most I usually go is something like half off maintenance. That's certainly not written in stone but it's in the ballpark of what I usually do.
I also tend to lean towards lower carbs too than usual. But sometimes I don't work that in until later, all depending on the individual.
He devours books like I devour chocolate.
In that case, he should really consider Stuart McGill's "Ultimate Back Fitness and Performance."
It's pricey but well worth the pennies.
He's one of the leading authorities on lower back pain and health.
bikinibound
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I suspect her calories will be closer to 2100 than 1800...lol. Also, that leaves her a little room for a bit of snacking.
I wouldn't say I'm her savior..lol--she's the one who has made the decision to lose weight. I'm just doing what I can to help and make sure she sticks with it.
I have written down the author and title of the book and will give it to H.
Thanks, Steve!
I wouldn't say I'm her savior..lol--she's the one who has made the decision to lose weight. I'm just doing what I can to help and make sure she sticks with it.
I have written down the author and title of the book and will give it to H.
Thanks, Steve!
And how does she seem to handle it? Is she content? I'd ask her and tell her to be very honest b/c if she isn't, she could certainly afford to eat some more.
I have written down the author and title of the book and will give it to H.
Thanks, Steve!
You're welcome.
I'm a fan.
Tom knows his stuff and he managed to jam a ton of information into that one book in a digestible format.
I don't agree with everything he says but all in all recommend the book.
Bigguy
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Steve,
I just want to say thanks for the workout you came up with for me the other day. I have completed the 3 days of it today and it really seems to be what I am looking for. I seem to be maximizing my time and I really do appreciate it.
The only question I have is regarding the split squats. One of my issues had always been balance on my left leg- I have a few things that I think are wrong but nothing ever confirmed- and I am wondering if these will help that. Something they seem to so is work the ankle stabilizers. I am just wondering if this is by design or I am reading into this.
I am doing these with very light weight until I get them down correctly.
Glute raises are a b*&ch! I can't do single leg yet- also wondering if that is 'common' for a relative beginner.
I just want to say thanks for the workout you came up with for me the other day. I have completed the 3 days of it today and it really seems to be what I am looking for. I seem to be maximizing my time and I really do appreciate it.
The only question I have is regarding the split squats. One of my issues had always been balance on my left leg- I have a few things that I think are wrong but nothing ever confirmed- and I am wondering if these will help that. Something they seem to so is work the ankle stabilizers. I am just wondering if this is by design or I am reading into this.
I am doing these with very light weight until I get them down correctly.
Glute raises are a b*&ch! I can't do single leg yet- also wondering if that is 'common' for a relative beginner.
bikinibound
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I think she's okay with it. She's eaten about 2100 cals today. What would you say the max she could eat and still lose is?
You're welcome and glad to hear you're enjoying it.
Yup, I think most any program should have unilateral work thrown into the mix for multiple reasons; balance being one of them.
No, you shouldn't be able to do single legs yet. They're fun though, right?
Assuming a healthy functioning metabolism... a lot.
It all really depends but if I were to throw a ballpark figure out there I'd say something like 3000-3500.
10 calories per pound is usually a ballparked BMR.
B/c she's so overweight, you might drop that down to 9.
That leaves her at 3500 calories. Add in activity and whatnot and she could probably lose on 3000ish calories. Again, that's a big estimate... just realize that there's a lot of wiggle room you're working with. If you can get her moving a few times per week and limit her intake to under 2500 calories per day.... she's going to lose.
My personal take on working with obese clients though is simple: cut calories by as much as they can comfortably tolerate since losing muscle and metabolic slowdowns are not much a concern. So I have no issue with what you're doing as long as she's able to comfortably stick with it and it's not causing her to do 'bad stuff' while you aren't around.
Darth Pooh
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I second that! Holy crap Liz... what the hell... is that your change of career choice, leaving computers for PORN?!
Looks interesting...
Nice title by the way.. .
Yea, I've read some good reviews. I mean, if you aren't interested in this sort of thing obviously it's not something you're going to run out to watch. But I am.