Journey, Not A Destination

I knew that :)

You work hard in your direction -- the rest of us can go in the other direction.. ya see I have theory for every lb a person loses - someone has to gain that pound so.. it seems fair actually that you need a few - and we want to dump a few.. it's the circle of life :) or something..

I've put in an lot of hours and havent had a day off in a very long time my brain is somewhat cooked right now :)

haha, i like that thinking.... as long as the pounds lost are fat and the pounds gained are muscle
 
This was a PM from gymchica and we agreed to move it to my journal:

Hello. I hope I'm not bothering you, but I have a question regarding something you said in a "before and after" thread. The girl was 5'0 and 112 lbs. You said she shouldn't do very high intensity cardio because of the low amount of calories she needs to lose weight.

I am very similar to her (5'3 114 lbs) and want to lose a little bit of fat. I have been trying to do HIIT or at least pretty intense intervals twice a week (in addition to weight training and 30 mins moderate cardio following that). Would longer sessions of more moderate cardio be a better choice than the HIIT? Are the intense intervals still okay??

Sorry if the answer is obvious. It can get kind of tricky to lose weight at this stage in the game, and I had never heard advice to NOT do something like HIIT. A lot of people act like it's the answer to everything. I'm just really interested in hearing some clarification without hijacking her thread. Thank you.


At 114 lbs, your maintenance can be assumed to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500-1600 calories. Do you know how many calories you are consuming currently? The problem with little women trying to lose weight is, to drop into an energetic deficit (required for weight loss) they have to eat so little. Compare your stats to mine. I'm 195 lbs currently with a maintenance intake of roughly 3100 calories. I could drop 1000 calories and still be eating more food than your maintenance.

You drop your intake by 1000 calories and you'll die, lol.

So we've got small amounts of wiggle room.

To add to this issue, when you aren't carrying around a lot of body fat, losing more body weight becomes a difficult task. Our bodies don't like us to diet below a certain point. If they did, we probably wouldn't be sitting her typing on these computers as the human race would have died off. Easy storage of fat is what kept us alive in the cold winters when all the meaty mammals ran for the equator. So we've got systems in place that fight us when we're in shoes such as yours.

To add even more, when someone is dieting, their recoverability declines. Weight training, dieting, cardio.... these are all stresses placed on our bodies systemically. We need to recover from these stresses. When in an energy deficient state though, we need to be lot more economical in how and when we apply this stress due to said decline in recoverability.

As a general rule, you want to be very conservative when in your shoes with how much CNS-intensive work you do.

CNS = central nervous system

CNS-intensive = things that have a high force output.... think max exertion such as heavy weight lifting or the sprint portion of HIIT.

So what's this mean to you?

Well, I see a lot of people who are already pretty lean trying to get leaner try to do some ridiculous volume of weight training and high intensity cardio sessoins while dieting. They do it on a daily basis.

This goes against everything I just told you.

Instead, they should be consolidating their intensive efforts so that there are more days to recover. In fact, a gentleman approached me earlier on another forum saying his play was this:

Monday: Strength training
Tuesday: HIIT
Wednesday: Strength training
Thursday: HIIT
Friday: Strength training
Saturday & Sunday: HIIT

When would he recover?

Hint: He wouldn't.

Instead, he'd be better served doing 1-2 sessions of HIIT on the same days he strength trains. This is what I meant by consolidation. This would open up more days during the week for recovery.

Less intense work can be thrown in on these recovery days too.

That said, I'd figure out your maintenance caloric intake. From there, I'd create a 20% deficit or so. This deficit will be a very individual thing. For some, they may be able to do it with nutrition solely. For others, some form of cardio is going to have to act as a ballast allowing you to eat *enough*.

If I were you, I'd be doing 2-3 sessions of strength training per week focused on a mixture of primarily heavy weights (4-6 reps) and some moderate weights (10-15 reps). Believe it or not, this is going to give you the most mileage in terms of physique enhancement at this stage in the game.

If you find that you still aren't meeting your goals, add more cardio in as necessary... but keep it sane. None of this crap where you run for 60+ minutes.

If really necessary, throw in 1.... 2 at the most sessions of HIIT on your strength training days.

Take home message: Use high intensity stuff sparingly.
 
Just curious - who are the models going to be for the videos? will it be your lovely self or someone else?

We're undecided as of now. Gordy's girlfriend and my wife may be victims, lol.

I'm sure Gordy and I will be in some of the more technical exercises.

But in general, I think the public we will be catering too would prefer to see women doing these exercises as reassurance that it's not just the 'meatheads' who need to be doing these exercises.
 
I've never seen gordy's girlfriend (she's the cheerleadr isn't she? )but I like the idea of your wife doing it.. .

Reason being (for whatever my opinion is worth) is your wife, while absolutely lovely and in wonderful shape, isn't a expert level looking body like yours is and wouldn't be overly intimidating demo'ing exercises...

For me - lookig at someone who looked like you dong something -would say -yeah I can't do that and wold click off and go away but a real person - makes it more accessible.. especially on beginner type exercises...

and not necessarily women doing the exercises - it's real looking people...

you're pretty smart though -you knew that already i'm just stating the obvious :D
 
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I've never seen gordy's girlfriend (she's the cheerleadr isn't she? )but I like the idea of your wife doing it.. .

Reason being (for whatever my opinion is worth) is your wife, while absolutely lovely and in wonderful shape, isn't a expert level looking body like yours is and wouldn't be overly intimidating demo'ing exercises...

For me - lookig at someone who looked like you dong something -would say -yeah I can't do that and wold click off and go away but a real person - makes it more accessible.. especially on beginner type exercises...

and not necessarily women doing the exercises - it's real looking people...

you're pretty smart though -you knew that already i'm just stating the obvious :D

Right, that is what I figured. Problem is, the exercise has to be done correctly. We'll see.

Oh yea, and she is not the cheerleader. She's pretty though, not that that matters.
 
Nice to look at is always good for demo videos...

as for doing it correctly - well - if you can get two amateurs to do it correctly... well then... :)
 
I can def. get two amateurs to do it correctly. It's a matter of having enough time to instruct on tens, maybe even hundreds of exercises. We'll see how it goes.
 
I know you can...

My point, not well made, was that if your demos can be done with amateurs, then it would go a long way with new members coming in and seeing that the exercies are indeed do-able by anyone..

but I do understand the time constraint...

As they say -opinions are like assholes -everyone has one and sometimes they stink :D
 
Do I want to know how you know what powdered ass tastes like? are we talking about an ass that's been dried out and ground into powder, or a freshly cleaned ass that's been dusted with talc and is all sweet smelling?

LMAO!! I was wondering the exact same thing when I read this!

I thought the saying was great minds think alike. Apparently it's sick minds that think alike. :D
 
I know you can...

My point, not well made, was that if your demos can be done with amateurs, then it would go a long way with new members coming in and seeing that the exercies are indeed do-able by anyone..

Nah, your point was well made. Lol, it must be mine I'm not making clearly. This is our original idea.... amateurs would be better.
 
Nah, your point was well made. Lol, it must be mine I'm not making clearly. This is our original idea.... amateurs would be better.
Ok so we agree then... :) I'll take it... :)

Why do I even try to question you? :D

Carry on and have a delightful warm saturday :)

Go outside and play...
 
Thanks for answering my question Steve! :) I think it explains why I've been so exhausted and hungry lately. I've been pushing myself WAY to hard and not eating nearly enough to support all that activity.
 
Thanks for answering my question Steve! :) I think it explains why I've been so exhausted and hungry lately. I've been pushing myself WAY to hard and not eating nearly enough to support all that activity.

You're welcome. And taking a small break would probably treat you very well. Think 7-10 days or so.

A lot of people think they can simply beat their body into submission. It's not the case.
 
American Gladiators

Alright, man... I'm not sure if you were able to catch the premiere of AG tonight (Sunday), but let me just say this.... I know the AG back in the days was cheesy, but fuck me.... this is over the top cheese.

I wasn't impressed by most of the Gladiators really, which was a bit disappointing. My heart broke when I saw Gina "The Conviction" Carano (I LOVE her) as one of the gladiators. Bah... she needs to stick to MMA and Muay Thai kickboxing. Also... is it me or did that Hellga broad strike you as, "OMG.. are you serious??? She's really a Gladiator?? She must be one of the producers daughter or wife." I'm all about big girls, but she lacks that thing called "quick reflexes." It's a sad sad day for Sheryl. Boo hoo.

-me

PS I love Toa aka The Polynesian Gladiator. HA!
 
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