Journey, Not A Destination
- Thread starter Steve
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clearly...
why do i get to the feeling that steve will spend his non-gambling hours in the hotel gym pumping iron totally ignoring the spandex clad gymbo's that are lusting after him
i really am a degenerate
he's just a good boy saving himself for miss right that he can bring home to momma
Ha! Do I ever have you fooled. I will be at the bar for sure. I just don't like "gentelmen's clubs." Not into women, who expect me to give them money, rubbing their booties, boobies, and all other "special" parts all over me, after coming from the nasty guy a few seats down. No thanks.
i really have to stop corrupting diaries
: tries hard to behave:
What's the fun in that?
M2M
New member
Great. Please let me know what you think and feel free to ask me questions once you are done with it.
So what should I do if I want to look like Jennifer Gardner? She's got muscle and is very toned. I didn't want to confuse you on the "getting muscle" comment. I want to look lean and toned. Doesn't that require some muscle build? Yes, I am an idiot...
Take me for example. Right now I have the goal of adding muscle. That said, I have to be in a caloric surplus for this to occur. I could lift until I am blue in the face, but if I were in a deficit, or even at maintenance, my body is not going to add any tissue. Hence, I will not grow.
While in a surplus though, coupled with proper resistance training, I have packed on some serious pounds. Optimally, this would all have been muscle. BUT, only drug assisted individuals, or very genetically gifted individuals, can accomplish this. So, while I have packed on some muscle, some fat gain has also occurred. Big deal.
I know that gaining some fat was a necessary evil to add muscle to my frame, and it is only temporary. Once I reach my trigger point, I will switch into fat loss mode, while trying to maintain as much of my muscle gain as possible.
I tell you all of this so that you see you have to work in cycles based on your current goal.
You have muscle under your fat. It is there. Keep shedding the fat away and find out what is there. If you are happy with the end result. Great. Maintain what you got through maintenance calories and training.
If you want more muscle, time to create a surplus at that point and add some tissue.
Follow me?
M2M
New member
Well...I clearly don't want 1100 cals to be my ultimate "maintenance" level - and I think that's kinda what woke me up.
I was still losing, roughly 5 pounds a month, keeping the calories at 1100-1200 - but I would like to be able to eat more in the longer term
I had always figured I should be able to eat 2000 calories when I get to maintenance of goal weight - so I thought "cool! After being at a deficit for so long, it will be amazing to be at maintenance" Granted, it never occured to me, that my body had readjusted it's own personal "maintenance" level.
I'll continue to up my calories and when I get there I'll see what my body is doing in terms of any gain/loss, etc.
Thanks Steve - I'm off for the day - Have a GREAT weekend!
Well...I clearly don't want 1100 cals to be my ultimate "maintenance" level - and I think that's kinda what woke me up.
I was still losing, roughly 5 pounds a month, keeping the calories at 1100-1200 - but I would like to be able to eat more in the longer term
I had always figured I should be able to eat 2000 calories when I get to maintenance of goal weight - so I thought "cool! After being at a deficit for so long, it will be amazing to be at maintenance" Granted, it never occured to me, that my body had readjusted it's own personal "maintenance" level.
I'll continue to up my calories and when I get there I'll see what my body is doing in terms of any gain/loss, etc.
Thanks Steve - I'm off for the day - Have a GREAT weekend!
Let me know how it is going via PM, or on here, it really doesn't matter. If you are having too much trouble with weight gain, we will see what we can do.
Take care.
mnexercisegirl
New member
Yes, don't worry I most certainly will! I just went to Amazon and ordered it, plus a book called periodization for sports training, or something like that.
Yes I get it now. I had heard of periodization before with a trainer I had awhile ago, but she didn't push me hard enough during my workouts with her, so I decided to go on my own. But now I know that I need more guidance and I'm really hoping that the book will help. I do like how I look now, just would like some improvements, here and there.
Thanks so much for chatting with me! I'll most definitely post here for other questions...
Have a great time in Atlanta!
Do you mean Periodization Training for Sports. That will be a technical read, depending on what your knowledge base is. But a great book none the less if this is the one you are speaking of. If you like Periodization Training for Sports, let me know. If you are interested in really learning this stuff, I have some great books I could recommend. I have my own library.
You have an open pass to come and ask whatever, whenever you want.
be_gone_soon
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You have a lot going on in here! I hope you have a great week end!
mnexercisegirl
New member
I love learning about fitness. I started getting into learning how to get my heart rate at optimal levels this past year for my cardio and I think I'm doing fairly well with that. But I would love more about lifting, strenth training, resistence, all that. Because as I have said before, I'm an idiot when it comes to that. I think I have a fairly technical mind, so I'm open to what you can give or recommend. I have never been good about restricting what I eat. I eat when I can and I'm just more aware of what I put in my mouth. Usually if I restrict myself I tend to over indulge...anyway, I don't want to open another bag of worms..Do you mean Periodization Training for Sports. That will be a technical read, depending on what your knowledge base is. But a great book none the less if this is the one you are speaking of. If you like Periodization Training for Sports, let me know. If you are interested in really learning this stuff, I have some great books I could recommend. I have my own library.
Now how can I pass that up? You're gonna regret offering me that...You have an open pass to come and ask whatever, whenever you want.
You have a lot going on in here! I hope you have a great week end!
I have a lot of catching up to do, this place was dead for a bit.
Thanks, and you too.
I love learning about fitness. I started getting into learning how to get my heart rate at optimal levels this past year for my cardio and I think I'm doing fairly well with that. But I would love more about lifting, strenth training, resistence, all that. Because as I have said before, I'm an idiot when it comes to that. I think I have a fairly technical mind, so I'm open to what you can give or recommend. I have never been good about restricting what I eat. I eat when I can and I'm just more aware of what I put in my mouth. Usually if I restrict myself I tend to over indulge...anyway, I don't want to open another bag of worms..
Now how can I pass that up? You're gonna regret offering me that...
Read those books. New Rules of Lifting is not technical at all. Once finished, I will give you some recommendations to the good stuff.
Hmmm, you don't want to open another bag of worms, so I will keep my mouth shut about the rest of the stuff you said regarding food restriction.
I won't regret anything, promise. I love chatting about this stuff. Never gets old in my opinion.
Steve,
Have fun in AC. I went back in December with a few friends and went to my first club ever. We hit the Casbah in the Taj Mahal. It was AWESOME! It was great for my first clubbing experience.
Have fun in AC. I went back in December with a few friends and went to my first club ever. We hit the Casbah in the Taj Mahal. It was AWESOME! It was great for my first clubbing experience.
Welcome back - hope you and the boys had lots of fun... broke even at the very least and a good time was had by all
did i get bumped
So sorry, don't know how I missed this.
First let me say this. The closer you get to your natural healthy weight, the more difficult it becomes to lose weight. There are scientific reasons for this that I will gladly get into if you'd like, but at this point in time, I am going to assume you could care less.
Basically, due to the physiological survival mechanisms we have "pre-programmed" into our systems, losing the last few lbs can be quite the chore.
I would plug your numbers into fit day, but quite frankly, I don't have the time at the moment. Have you done so? If so, what is the caloric and macronutrient breakdown?
You say you are eating 1400 calories per day. That is roughly 10 cals per pound of bodyweight. Truthfully, I don't have an issue with that. I am surprised that you are not experiencing weight loss. But, it really depends on how long you have been at it. If it has been some time, then it is understandable how the survival mechanisms have kicked in.
I would like to see you cycle back up toward your maintenance caloric intake. Somthing like:
Week 1: 1550
Week 2: 1700
Week 3: 1900
Week 4: 2100cals
If you are experiencing a lot of weight gain, then knock the increments to 2 week intervals instead of one, where it would look something like this:
Week 1: 1550
Week 2: 1550
Week 3: 1700
Week 4: 1700
Week 5: 1900
Week 6: 1900
Week 7: 2100
Week 8: 2100cals
From here, we can start deficit dieting again with a few twists of zig zagging your caloric intake.
I'd like to recommend you accomplish this by carb cycling while maintaining your protein and fat intake. Thus, as you cycle your carbs, your calories will too cycle. Make sense?
This does a few things. One, it will keep your body guessing. Leptin is a crazy hormone, in regards to its control on your weight loss as you near setpoint weight and below. This goes back to the science of "why" weight loss becomes more tricky.
There are many ways to cycle your carbs/cals. One way that I like is making carb/cals high on resistance training days. Have medium days on your cardio days. Make the non-training days your low days.
Does this make sense? I am leaving a lot of details out, as I am rushed for time at the moment, but this is a good starting point for discussion purposes.