Hey Steve just wanted to say good morning and wish you a great day. I'm off to work....
Thanks, and have a good one yourself!
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Thanks, and have a good one yourself!
oooh frantic city
have fun...
::refrains from giving pointers on the better gentlemen's clubs in atlantic city::
::has faith that steve can find them on his own:
have fun...
::refrains from giving pointers on the better gentlemen's clubs in atlantic city::
::has faith that steve can find them on his own:
mnexercisegirl
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Are you still giving out advice? Mine isn't really about exercise, more like gym etiquette...
oooh frantic city
have fun...
::refrains from giving pointers on the better gentlemen's clubs in atlantic city::
::has faith that steve can find them on his own:
Honestly, I am not big on gentlemen's clubs. Don't get me wrong, I have been to some, in AC even, but not my thing.
Hmm, I don't like to think of it as giving out advice. I just chat.
If you like what you hear, listen. If you don't, then don't. That said, you can always feel free to ask me anything if you'd like.
Didn't he say it's a weekend of debauchery (should there be ANY other kind???) He might not be looking for the "better gentlemen's clubs!"
Have a GREAT time Steve.
And remember Mal's Avatar - it could save your life
Thanks! I need to relieve some stress. I have had a couple of weeks from hell. But I WILL NOT be relieving myself in any manner associated with Mal's avatar. Nope.
M2M
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Snipped from a response to someone else in the Harsh Thread section:
OK - so when do you know that the body has been "reset" and when can you start losing weight?
I think it's been about 3 weeks of up'ing my calories - I went from around 1100 to 1300ish to 1400ish, and over this last week, the range has been 1500ish.
In the first week, I gained two pounds, but have sat at the same weight for the last two weeks - Not going up, not going down. I've kept the exercise the same so that the only difference during this is the food/calories.
How long would you suggest continuing to up the calories, and then how do I know when to pull back in order to go back to losing the weight?
(I had mentally set my mind to about 6 weeks total of not losing weight...I hope it's not going to be more)
OK - so when do you know that the body has been "reset" and when can you start losing weight?
I think it's been about 3 weeks of up'ing my calories - I went from around 1100 to 1300ish to 1400ish, and over this last week, the range has been 1500ish.
In the first week, I gained two pounds, but have sat at the same weight for the last two weeks - Not going up, not going down. I've kept the exercise the same so that the only difference during this is the food/calories.
How long would you suggest continuing to up the calories, and then how do I know when to pull back in order to go back to losing the weight?
(I had mentally set my mind to about 6 weeks total of not losing weight...I hope it's not going to be more)
My answer to everything when it comes to fitness and nutrition:
It depends.
Ideally, I take someone all the way back up to maintenance, or rather, their suggested maintenance being 15 cals per pound. Once there, I like them to stay for 3 weeks at least to let your body reset. It will be resetting the entire way back up the calorie scale, but for a total reset, I like to up until maintenance is reached.
How your body responds to the upping really dictates the rate at which the incremental increases occur, as well as by how much the increments will be. As you can tell, it can be a rather long process.
It depends.
Ideally, I take someone all the way back up to maintenance, or rather, their suggested maintenance being 15 cals per pound. Once there, I like them to stay for 3 weeks at least to let your body reset. It will be resetting the entire way back up the calorie scale, but for a total reset, I like to up until maintenance is reached.
How your body responds to the upping really dictates the rate at which the incremental increases occur, as well as by how much the increments will be. As you can tell, it can be a rather long process.
mnexercisegirl
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Hmm, I don't like to think of it as giving out advice. I just chat.
That said, you can always feel free to ask me anything if you'd like.
OK here goes.
When I go workout, it's always by myself. My friends aren't as "dedicated" as I am to working out and my other half and I don't really have good enough schedules where we could both get to the gym and work out. Plus he isn't part of the same gym. Also, when one of us works out, the other usually has to watch the kids. Basically, I'm a loner at the gym.
Once in awhile I want to lift heavier weights, but I have no spotter. I see this group of studly men, like yourself, always there during the times I'm there, but I'm scared to ask for one of them to spot me a weight they could probably lift with their finger.
So my question:How do come up to one of them and ask for a spot without looking like an idiot?
I would ask another female, but there usually aren't many around the time I workout and they're not really welcoming, unfortunately. what should I do if there is no spotter around and I want to lift heavier weights?Exercise Question: How do I know I'm lifting enough? Example: Bench: I can do 15 of 65lbs my first rep, but my second I can barely get to 10. Should I start lighter and work my way up? How many sets should I typically do per exercise. Sorry this one was not the gym etiquette stuff...just had to put it in here...I'm a total idiot when it comes to lifting.
My main goal is to tone up and get some muscle, but at the same time add strength so I can be more powerful playing volleyball and soccer. I'm not too worried about cardio, I can stay on the treamill for hours...but I don't
Hope you can help...
M2M
New member
Gads...
I was hoping it wasn't going to be THAT long
My maintenance should be 2730 (at 15cals per pound) and I'm increasing roughly 100 every week...
This would be a MUCH longer process then I thought it would be :\
Honestly - I think I originally thought I'd "fix" this when I got to my goal weight - to be this far away from it, and trying to fix it is really hard...
I was hoping it wasn't going to be THAT long
My maintenance should be 2730 (at 15cals per pound) and I'm increasing roughly 100 every week...
This would be a MUCH longer process then I thought it would be :\
Honestly - I think I originally thought I'd "fix" this when I got to my goal weight - to be this far away from it, and trying to fix it is really hard...
OK here goes.
When I go workout, it's always by myself. My friends aren't as "dedicated" as I am to working out and my other half and I don't really have good enough schedules where we could both get to the gym and work out. Plus he isn't part of the same gym. Also, when one of us works out, the other usually has to watch the kids. Basically, I'm a loner at the gym.
Once in awhile I want to lift heavier weights, but I have no spotter. I see this group of studly men, like yourself, always there during the times I'm there, but I'm scared to ask for one of them to spot me a weight they could probably lift with their finger.
How do come up to one of them and ask for a spot without looking like an idiot?
Exercise Question: How do I know I'm lifting enough? Example: Bench: I can do 15 of 65lbs my first rep, but my second I can barely get to 10. Should I start lighter and work my way up? How many sets should I typically do per exercise. Sorry this one was not the gym etiquette stuff...just had to put it in here...I'm a total idiot when it comes to lifting.
My main goal is to tone up and get some muscle, but at the same time add strength so I can be more powerful playing volleyball and soccer. I'm not too worried about cardio, I can stay on the treamill for hours...but I don't
Hope you can help...
Boy could I ever write a book in response to this post. I will try to keep it short and bitter, err, I mean sweet.
First, regarding finding a spotter. Just ask. The only guy that people don't ask in my gym is me, simply b/c I am the only one that puts the care in enough at my gym to actually time my rests between sets. If you see a guy doing this, I wouldn't ask him. But I doubt many, if any are.
Asking for a spot in the gym is a normal occurrence.
Secondly, regarding your program design, I highly recommend picking up a copy of the book, "The New Rules of Lifting." You can find it at most big book stores as well as on amazon.com. It is relatively cheap, and loaded with great explanation and has excellent periodized programs laid out for you to follow in the weight room.
If you don't want to go that route, which I highly recommend again, we can get into some more discussion here on program design.
This said, I am not a fan of 15 reps sets, especially as the basis of your routine. Maybe for some accessory movements, but that is about it. I would recommend doing something like a 3 day per week full body routine consisting, primarily of the big compound exercises.
Lastly, you need to prioritize your goals. You say you want to tone and "get some muscle."
Toning is a function of nutrition mainly, and energy balance. Toning = fat loss. Fat loss is a function of net energy deficits.
"Getting muscle" is a function of a calorie surplus coupled with a properly designed resistance training program.
Hopefully you realize you can't do one while doing the other. Does this make sense?
gack where' the fun in that?
oh you kids today - where's your priorities...
ah well - have fun with whatever method you choose
M2M
New member
gack where' the fun in that?
oh you kids today - where's your priorities...
Mal...
It's not the same as it was when WE were kids...
clearly...
why do i get to the feeling that steve will spend his non-gambling hours in the hotel gym pumping iron totally ignoring the spandex clad gymbo's that are lusting after him
i really am a degenerate
he's just a good boy saving himself for miss right that he can bring home to momma
why do i get to the feeling that steve will spend his non-gambling hours in the hotel gym pumping iron totally ignoring the spandex clad gymbo's that are lusting after him
i really am a degenerate
he's just a good boy saving himself for miss right that he can bring home to momma
M2M
New member
i really have to stop corrupting diaries he's got all sorts of helpful facts scattered thru out here - and a genuine willingness to help.. and then there's my entries in here
: tries hard to behave:
he's got all sorts of helpful facts scattered thru out here - and a genuine willingness to help.. and then there's my entries in here : tries hard to behave:
mnexercisegirl
New member
OK, I will keep that in mind the next time I need a spot.
I will get the book. Thanks for the recommendation.
So what should I do if I want to look like Jennifer Gardner? She's got muscle and is very toned. I didn't want to confuse you on the "getting muscle" comment. I want to look lean and toned. Doesn't that require some muscle build? Yes, I am an idiot...
Gads...
I was hoping it wasn't going to be THAT long
My maintenance should be 2730 (at 15cals per pound) and I'm increasing roughly 100 every week...
This would be a MUCH longer process then I thought it would be :\
Honestly - I think I originally thought I'd "fix" this when I got to my goal weight - to be this far away from it, and trying to fix it is really hard...
Completely understand.
Look, you could continue down the path you were on. If you were experiencing continued weight loss, that means your body had not moved completely into starvation mode. Unless, that is, you found yourself continually needing to reduce cals.
What happens if you stay on that path?
You could ride it out until weight loss halts, which it would. At that point in time, you could go about "resetting" your body.
IMO though, this will not leave you with optimal results. Sure, it would be the quickest way to your goal weight with this as your starting point, assuming that stagnant caloric deficit carried you all the way down to your goal, which who knows if it would or not.