It's all about me

cym said:
It's weird. I know for a fact that I could sit someone down (I've actually done this more than a few times over the last year and half) and explain step by step a safe, healthy way to shed excess weight. And it would work. No problem. It's logical. It's based on specific facts about human biology. But, I don't do it anymore - even when someone I actually like says "please, please, pretty please". Because what I can not ever seem to get across, is the shift in thought patterns that have to take place to make it "stick".
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Absolutely true. You have to be totally committed, or it will just go in one ear and out the other.

I've even tried to explain this to my lovely wife, who wants to lose weight. But she doesn't want to count calories, and doesn't want to approach it very scientifically, so I basically let it drop.

However, I'm sure that if someone wanted your help, and you were convinced they were serious, you'd help them, no?
 
Blancita: yess! You totally hit it on the head. A day or two ago I was in this coffee shop drooling over this 3000 calorie a bite (I swear, it had to be) piece of fudge cake and joking about how I'd buy it when they came out with a fat-free sugar-free version, and this woman, a complete random stranger, beside me says - with a distinct hostile undertone "Well, you don't need to worry about that" Huh? Me? Who gains weight from the mearest whiff of cake? who counts every calorie and fat gram that goes into her mouth? Who's out there running before the friggin sun even comes up (if it ever does again)? Whatever.

Tom: Hmmmm, I might. Yea, of course I would.

Kelly: sorry, I missed you before. Man, I loved that list. I was reading it and going "are you kidding me?" Kiddo, you are in illustrious company! Talk about "attractive available" men being a trigger - you're not alone in that by any means. You'll have to kick my butt to make me go run today before I can kick yours to go bike. It was thunder/lighting/pouring rain from the time i got up until about 30 mins. ago. I braved it to grocery shop, run errands and pay bills. I came home all settled in for the rest of my day off telling myself I'd get my run in "if" the sun ever came out. Dammit....Now the sun is trying to shine and I have to haul my lazy butt off this comfy chair and make like an old skool nike commercial and "just do it" bleh.
 
Printed that list of names off. It has given me real food for thought. I have lacked insight about my "condition". I think I will be able to behave better knowing that I have something in common with these amazing people. I mean, Sting? Drew Carey? I am going to take this list (with your pic on it!) to my psychiatrist who I'll see in a few days and discuss with her. I do not want to sound arrogant but I have not understood the power of my personality, well, that might be an arrogant way of looking at it, but it got me in trouble, my mania, my lack of self-control. I WILL have better impulse control, be more sober. I have good support and know that there is a woman right across the hall I can go to at ANY time. Life can get crazy sometimes, can't it? But I'm going to enjoy myself more, knowing that I have something good (I don't know what) to offer the world.

Had a nice dinner with John tonight. Stayed under maintenance. I think.

I'll see you in the morning. Ask me if I went for a bike ride.
 
1862

Cals in line at 1862, sat fat at 20g, fiber at 31g and protein at 145g. Got in 8 servings combined fruit/veggies, 3 servings meat, 4 servings dairy and 2 grain/nut. Happy Hungry Hormones seem to have been once again laid to rest.:jump: One lesson definitly learned: I can't combine all non-fat dairy with as much fruit and non-green veggies as I eat. The present balance with reduced & whole fat dairy seems to work better as far as saiety and, if I'm careful about my cuts of meat, still work out with the sat fat and cals so alls well...finally.

Liquid:
coffee, 8 oz
water, 60 oz

fruit:
blueberries, 1/4 cup
apple, 1 small
mango, 1 fruit
raisins, .05

veggies:
artichoke, 1
broccoli, 1 cup chopped
bok choy, 1 cup chopped
tomato, 1 large

dairy:
yougurt, plain, whole, 1/2 cup
cottage cheese, 2%, 1/4 cup
part skim mozzerella, 1/8 cup
2% milk, 1/2 cup

meat:
pork chop, center cut, 1
beef, lean, 6 oz
turkey, breast, deli sliced, 5 slices

nuts/gains/seeds/legumes:
almonds, 1 oz
w/w/ wraps, 3 wraps

other:
olive oil, 1 tablespoon
sf/ff pudding, 1 serving


Total: 1862
Fat: 74 667 37%
Sat: 20 181 10%
Poly: 8 74 4%
Mono: 34 303 17%
Carbs: 173 567 31%
Fiber: 31 0 0%
Protein: 145 578 32%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
Hey there girl, sounds like your doing well. I love the food breakdown you put on your diary, it always gives me good ideas, as I tend to forget about certain foods when I go shopping. Oh and I finally peeked in at your pictures, how pretty you are!! You have done such a great job!
Kim
 
Kelly, Tom, Cita, and Cym, that was a really interesting page to read. Thanks for posting, also I have to add a confession. I tend to not do this anymore because because I'm over it, but back when I was steadily gaining weight (because I was grotesquely overeating) I would curse the thin women I saw. I'm not talking about athletic women though, I'm talking about thin women that don't exercise, but don't overeat. While it was totally irrational for me to do that, and my jealousy was transparent (to me, I don't actually talk about this with other people) it's just a part of being insecure and until I took measures to build my own confidence, I wasn't able to get over my jealousy. It's embarrassing, but I don't feel jealous anymore. I feel excited to be fit too!

Excellent diet as always Cym, oh and you must be getting lousy weather if you're in North Florida. I swear lightning struck 20 times on my way home from the gym yesterday.
 
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Lukewarm: Although some of those thin women who apparently neither exercise nor overeat might just have great genes/metabolisms - some of thier very private behavior might really surprise you. Because I've tended to be very open and verbal (sometimes annoyingly so) about what it takes for me to maintain my weight, a lot of people who I've always thought just managed it "effortlessly" have opened up to me about their own struggles which I had no idea about. For some insane reason a lot of women (I don't know about men) seem to think it's embarrassing for people to know they have to deliberately watch their weight - and that it's like some kind of "badge of honor" to walk around acting like "oh I just eat whatever I want and never really exercise" - believe me when I say a lot of times that's pure, pure b.s.

I read this article about the "Biggest Loser" yesterday and it cracked me up. Sadly, but not surprisingly, quite a few of them have regained weight. What did surprise me (I don't know why though) was that a lot of the huge numbers that show up on the weekly weigh in are the results of massive water loss through those "last chance work-outs" and the naturally diuretic effects of eating lots of asparagus. The part that just had me literally laughing out loud though was when the writer suggested that what might be more useful, but obviously not commercially viable, would be a show called "the Biggest Maintainer"....I'm standing there counting out my 20 grapes, 1/4 cup cottage cheese and 10 almonds for a snack and thinking "yea, this would make for damn good t.v.....stay tuned in approximately 1 hour I'll be de-flea'ing my cat...should burn about 25 calories.":rotflmao:

Cals fine, 1940, top end of maint range. sat fat & protein good, needed a little more fiber. Not sure what happened to veggies, other than tomato, seemed to be missing in action - and since I think tomatoes are technically a fruit I guess I ended up with 6 fruit/no veggie servings, whoops. Dairy good, and semi satisfied with nut/grain variety - still need to start adding less wheat and more oats and bulgar though. Still got to get in 3 fish servings this week...and it's Thursday already so I guess I know what's for dinner/lunch the rest of the week.


liquids:
coffee, 16 oz
water, 60 oz

fruits
orange, 1 medium
apple, 1 small
raisins, .05
mango, 1
grapes, 20

veggies:
tomato, 1 large

dairy:
ff cream cheese, 1.5 oz
2% milk, 1/2 cup
yogurt, plain, whole, 1/2 cup
cottage cheese, 1%, 1/4 cup
cheddar, non fat, 1 oz

meat
chicken, 4 wings
ground beef, 93% lean, 4 oz
sliced turkey breast, 1 serving

nuts/grains/legumes/seeds
almonds, 1 oz
ww wrapper, 1 serving
ww wonton wraps, 1 serving
buckwheat, 1 tablespoon

other:
sf/ff pudding, 1 serving
olive oil, 1 tablespoon


Total: 1940
Fat: 78 699 37%
Sat: 20 178 9%
Poly: 14 124 7%
Mono: 35 317 17%
Carbs: 196 683 36%
Fiber: 25 0 0%
Protein: 126 502 27%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
cym, I like that idea for a show -- The Biggest Maintainer. :) In the end, that show ends up confusing more people than it helps, because it promotes the idea that weight loss is just a matter of crash dieting.
 
Oh my gosh you may be right...I remember talking to this guy that I was friends with a couple years ago and he was talking about this free-spirited hippyish dreadlocked sexy girl he 'used' to be interested in (who I happen to know and is very cool) and how she gave him ride one night. He said that he stopped liking her the moment he saw a fitness magazine lying in her backseat. Is that not insane? I blew up...because I wasn't overweight at the time and still trying to exercise every now and then, I stopped liking HIM at that moment. But he's a pretentious music, image dude. Some guys want the girl they're seeing to be perfect, sexy, in shape, etc, but what...if she has to workout for it, she's ruined? I could have punched him. You're right, there are ridiculous stigmas that prevent some people from being altogether truthful at times.

Ok, please can you tell me what you have for breakfast each morning? I can't figure it out.
 
Lukewarm: :rotflmao: that's because I don't eat breakfast in a form anyone would recognize. I eat a pre-work out meal (usually an apple and a small amount of dairy), a post work out meal (more fruit, usually something high on the GI scale and then lowfat/skim milk or low/no fat dairy. "Breakfast" (except on sunday's when it's ALWAYS bacon, eggs, grits) is then whatever I feel like eating...and usually it's in the form of a complete lunch or dinner type meal. For example, this morning "breakfast" was chopped broccoli & tomato cooked into ground beef along side a toasted flat out wrap with a piece of muenster cheese on top. Yesterday it was creamcheese stuffed wontons with sliced turkey and tomatoes. When I stopped eating sugar, my general food preferences just got a little odd I guess:eek:
 
Alright yeah I'd never guess that, last question, promise...

:drooling: wontons...cream cheese wontons :drooling: do you just make your own? I now have a very large desire to eat a cream cheese wonton.
 
The wonton wrappers are a brand called "Nori" (I think...I don't have the package)...they are always in the section with the tofu. Pretty much no artifical crap/added sugar/etc., 160 cals for 8 wonton size wrappers and 180 calories for 3 egg roll size wrappers. I use them frequently for cabbage rolls, or stuff meat into them, or spinach. Or bake 'em flat with melted cheese on top. Or put blueberries on them and make little fruit tart cups....or bake them with a lot of spices and use 'em for "chips" with a cottage cheese or eggplant dip, or sometimes bake em and sprinkle on cinnamon & nutmeg, add chopped nuts and drizzle with a teaspoon of honey.....the variety of what you can do with them is endless.
 
Thank you! I'm excited, I want to start experimenting too, first up, cream cheese wontons! Ohh with green onions? I'm quite thrilled.
 
Hi cym....I haven't stopped by to officially say hi (or at least I don't think I have...LOL) but I have read a lot of your posts in other WLFr's diaries and just read a lot more of yours...and I just have to tell you that you are GREAT! :) You have a wonderful attitude and outlook and you look fantastic!

cym said:
The wonton wrappers are a brand called "Nori" (I think...I don't have the package)...they are always in the section with the tofu. Pretty much no artifical crap/added sugar/etc., 160 cals for 8 wonton size wrappers and 180 calories for 3 egg roll size wrappers. I use them frequently for cabbage rolls, or stuff meat into them, or spinach. Or bake 'em flat with melted cheese on top. Or put blueberries on them and make little fruit tart cups....or bake them with a lot of spices and use 'em for "chips" with a cottage cheese or eggplant dip, or sometimes bake em and sprinkle on cinnamon & nutmeg, add chopped nuts and drizzle with a teaspoon of honey.....the variety of what you can do with them is endless.
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Wow, I am going to have to try those! what good ideas!

Hope you are having a good day, cym!

Beth
 
I second what Beth said!! I love Won tons and never thought I could make them myself, I'm certainly going to try your idea, sounds great and YUMMY!! I also love the idea of the The Greatest Maintainer, that's a good idea, YOUR SO SMART!!! Hope your day is going well. Chow mama!
Kim
 
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Kim: txs but I can't take credit for that, it was an idea by a guy (I'm assuming it was a guy) who wrote an article in TIME. And yes, won tons are so fun to cook with. I don't do bread at all ('cause it triggers me to keep going and going and going) except for my little piece of corn muffin...I'm a southern girl who can't eat turnip greens without that little piece crumbled on top...so country I know. :doh: So stuff like won tons, filo, wraps, etc. fills in the breadless void.

Bethann: Howdy...nice to meet ya....and thxs for stopping by!

Lukewarm: You so have the right idea and attitude! Being excited about and experimenting with "real" food is not only fun it keeps you from feeling like you're "on a diet" even when you're watching your calorie intake. When I made the personal commitment to go to whole foods I invested in the best cook-book in the entire world "Cooking the Whole Foods Way" by Christina Pirello...between that book and the five million recipies I've since created in my own personal "cookbook", like Scarlett O'Hara I can hold my fist up defiently and declare "I will never be hungry (for yummy food) again!":rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Hope everyone has a great week-end!:)

Cals at 1722, slightly under low end of maint. range, not on purpose, but just a case of food intake matching appetite. Sat fat, fiber, protein targets all met. Funny how I haven't exceeded 20g sat fat since I gave myself "permission" to temporarily go up to 25g. Even though cals a bit low, I still got in not only a cookie but...8 servings fruits/veggies, 3 servings dairy, both lean meat and fish and 7 different grain/nut/etc servings from different sources. Life is sooooo easy when my Happy Hungry Hormones are not raging!



Liquids:
coffee, 16oz
lemon juice, 1 oz
water, 80 oz

fruit:
watermelon, 1 small wedge
blueberries, 1/4 cup
apple, 1 small

veggies:
broccoli, 1 cup chopped
tomato, 1 medium
turnip greens w/ turnips, 1 cup
corn, 1/4 cup
yam, 1/4 whole small

dairy:
muenster cheese, 1 slice
yogurt, plain, whole, 1/2 cup
2% milk, 1/2 cup

meat:
ground beef, 93% lean, 4 oz
talapia, 8 oz
chicken, 1 small breast

nuts/seeds/grains/legumes
ww flat wrap, 1 serving
giant limas, 1/4 cup
crackers, 4 saltines
whole wheat flour, 1/8 cup
almonds, 1 oz
buckwheat, 1 tablespoon
muffin, 1/4 whole small muffin

other:
sf cookie, 1

Total: 1722
Fat: 59 531 32%
Sat: 16 141 8%
Poly: 11 98 6%
Mono: 22 197 12%
Carbs: 159 513 31%
Fiber: 31 0 0%
Protein: 154 618 37%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%
 
Holy Cow and hold the phone! (yes, I am a fountain of silly expressions left over from childhood). I had already signed off and gone to put my clothes from washer to dryer (I also lead a wildly exciting life) when it hit me and I have to write this down cause in my excruciatingly slow progress towards "naturally maintaining" my weight - this is HUGE.

Yesterday I ate a sugar free cookie. Okay big whoop-de-do. And it is. 'cause it wasn't eat a cookie and crave 17 more. It wasn't adjust my calories to make room for a cookie. It was...just a cookie. I was in a place where my favorite (okay, my only) sugarfree cookies are sold. I did the quick calorie tally from the day thing in my head, knew I had "spare" and got a cookie, drank a cup of coffee, chit chatted for a bit and came home. That's it.

And it's silly, but for me it's a big deal simply because it was not a big deal. I am a lifelong member of the "if it tastes sweet and tasty continue eating (or think about eating) until your belly hurts club". But, yesterday...well i ate a cookie and it was such a "no big deal" thing that I would have totally forgotten it if I hadn't been logging my foods in. I don't know how long this has been going on...I suspect yesterday was not the first time...only I just noticed it...and, well dammit I'm excited:jump:
 
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