Is rate of mass gain limited to your wallet?

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jonny100

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I see all of these products advertised such as whey protein (which I'm using), Creatine (I'm considering it), and there's things like glutamine, tribulus, multi vitamins, anabolics, amino acids, nitric oxide, etc. All of the descriptions of these products involve being very good for building muscle mass, and claim to have proven dramatic gains in people who have tested them.
What I'm wondering is which are the ones that are truly effective? Because obviously it'd be crazy to try and consume all of these supplements, yet they all seem to play a crucial role in building muscle.

I read that multi-vitamins and amino acids are two sups that are particularly wise for people to take. Is this true?
And does anyone have any opinions or experience with tribulus? Does it work on its own? It's not that expensive so I'm considering giving it a go.
 
I use a multivitamin, flax-seed oil for good amino/fatty acids, and Met-RX protein plus as that has whey for quick absorbtion, caesin and other slow absobing proteins for sustained growth, and it also contains free-form amino acids (like the fatty ones but faster absorbing).
 
3 solid high protein moderate fat moderate carb + 3 protein shakes a day, plus a 1 or 2 muscle a day schedule and little to no cardio will get you huge. its that simple. no need for extra junk.
 
get what you can

dont worry about all of the advertising companies they are just trying to sell their product, just eat right and train properly their is no magic potion out their-and if there is you'll pay for it in the future. think of all of that fluf that you see in the magazines is just like a big competition for all of the corporations. don't fall for the scams.
 
i agree. dont be one of those ppl who gets their information from supplement ads and magazines. these are the ones who use everything under the sun

the great bodies of years ago didnt have powdered creatine, hmb, zma, abcdefg, etc. food, training and recovery, thats what matters. only supplements i invest my money in are protein powders, vitamins, minerals, creatine, efas and glucosamine.

as for tribulus, only evidence i've seen to its effectiveness is in articles. i havent seen any research saying its worth it.

glutamine is great for the immune system and gut health. it doesnt make one "recover" better.
 
remember...a lot of these suppliments are crap! in some instances, the companies may as well be selling you sand!

my current suppliments: water, protein powder, meat, grains, olive oil, and a whole lot of steel.

it should be noted that there are good suppliments out there, like creatine, for instance, but if you dont want to spend money on creatine, that DOES NOT mean you cant gain mass! all you need are food and weights.
 
Those all work though it is generally accepted that you need two or three times the prescribed dosage of glutamine to have the proper effect. It is however considdered to be among the greatest of sups. I would definately give creatine a try.

While sups are great do not underestimate the power of food. In fact do not take any sups unless you feel your diet is clean and empowering. They are to"supplement" your diet. No sup is worth relying on
 
Here are the supps worth taking IMO: creatine, protein powder, multi-vitamin, EFA's.

I've seen too much research lately showing glutamine isn't absorbed by most people, so its a waste.
Nitrous Oxide will inflat muscles temporarily...but I lift for real growth...who wants a pill that artificially bloats you for a few hours?
'anabolics'/pro-hormones - all the ones that worked which were legal...aren't legal anymore. Unless you're in your 30's, I wouldn't play with true anabolic or androgenic steroids. And if you do, become a frickin expert on them before you take the first injection. Way too easy to permanently screw yourself up with gear.

There are some other helpful supps like ZMA to help you sleep at night and boost test. levels. I also take l-tyrosine, mainly to boost my mental attitude since intense lifting taxes the nervous system and can lead to little bouts of depression.
 
And yes, I did try NO2 for a little bit. The guy at GNC wanted me to try it so badly he gave me a 2weeks supply as a free sample.
I felt a little more pumped, but it wasn't visible looking in a mirror, unless of course I'd just finished lifting...and you have a natural pump anyway.

thankfully the myostatin inhibitor fad came and went so swiftly, few even remember it...or was that made illegal when they banned all the legal pro-hormones? anyone know?
 
malkore said:
Here are the supps worth taking IMO: creatine, protein powder, multi-vitamin, EFA's.
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100% correct. any other supps you might consider are in the "helper" catagories, what this means is if you are haveing a problem due to working out, there are supps that will help with it, prity simple hu? so if your having trouble sleeping cause your working out there is ZMA, melatonin. if your joints are sore or hurting you can take glucosamine, MSM, chondroitin. if you feel jittery and uneasy from strain to you nerves like mentioned before l-tyrosine. stick with the basics, some people know what there talking about and others think they know what there talking about, the health scene is very complex and confusing so GL.
 
You can look nice without supplements. Any competitor (i.e., people who want to grow fast) use supplements 99% of the time. Your average bodybuilder takes:

Creatine (Kre-alkalyn preferred)
A pure protein
A multivitamin
Some sort of fat-burning complex (ephedrine, caffeine, bitter-orange extract, etc.)
Tribulus (tribestrin, the isolated chemical that causes testosterone production, is a better choice)
ZMA (for better testosterone absorption)
L-Glutamine (for recovery)

Many will also take NO2 supplements, Amino Acids complexes, or formulations like NO-Xplode or PowerPump for added focus, pump, and bloodflow.

Powerlifters use Glucosamine/MSM/Chondroitin or DMSO for joints.
 
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