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I didn't mean any hate. I am with LV, I am pretty much respect ANYONE who has their heart set on something and goes for it. Hell my senior quote was, "Find what you like, and do it with integrity." I try to take that mindset into anything I do, whether it's my job, cooking, lifting, running, being a friend, being a lover, whatever.
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You're naive focus. You assuming that all BBrs are solely action figures couldn't be more wrong. I don't want to get into it because all you'll do is break apart my post sentence by sentence and throw together a host of words with a few metaphors and in the end say nothing new. Enjoy your ignorance.
Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think.
I don't presume to understand bb'ing as much as those who have been doing it for years, but if you take something dramatic like this and hang it on your gym wall, just ignore Arnold over there doing calf raises with giggling girls on his back.
I don't presume to understand bb'ing as much as those who have been doing it for years, but if you take something dramatic like this and hang it on your gym wall, just ignore Arnold over there doing calf raises with giggling girls on his back.
Lei! are you being profound? omg omg omg omg ahahhahaa
I wish my ex-BF posted here. He was a lot more than an "action figure". Not only was he a BBer, he competed in XC skate style skiing sprints (and won), kicked butt on road bikes/mountain bikes, did sprint triathlons well (usually came in second or third), and made me look like a slug when we went mountain climbing/hiking (seriously, I was always sucking his dust!). He was truly an all-round athlete who inspired a lot of people. His cardiovascular conditioning was beyond amazing. And he had amazing strength as well -- not just of body, but of character. He wasn't just a pretty face with an awesome body. He was a lot more than that.
I guess what I'm saying is all BBers are not created equally, just like all powerlifters and strength athletes aren't created equally. You can't judge a person based on what discipline they choose to pursue.
Your opinion becomes very acidic Focus and irritates stomachs, that's all. There's always a better way to say things but you always choose the blunt one. Like a grumpy old man mate. Lighten up!!!!
If you're lifting more than the average juicing gym rat then maybe it's time for some more picture updates. Maybe we could get a juicing gym rat to put his up too just to see how weak he is
IMO someone who hasn't achieved **** themselves hasn't earned the right to knock the teachings of those who have
Get your squat over 700lbs and then come back and comment
Do you also believe only people with vaginas can be gynecologists? But who's mocking teachings? You're all jumping back and forth. And arguing with things I never actually said. Besides which, just because I can't squat 700 lbs doesn't mean I've never achieved anything. But, y'see, I'm not insecure enough to argue the point in a desperate bid for your approval. Lucky for you.
Take this, for example. Same as in your previous post, you jump back and forth between defending the logical extreme of the thing (the IFBB Pro) and its antipode (the gym rat). (That "big word" was for mreik.
)How many gym rats do you know who can squat over 700 lbs, exactly? I have yet to see a one with more than 350 lbs of free weight on the bar (for parallel squats that were more like quarter squats), I kid you not. I can full squat 300, currently, and anticipate being able to parallel squat 700 by the end of next year. When I do, what will you say to me, then, in order to avoid addressing the actual point? Will you fall back to the old standby of my 'just not getting it'?
If you want to argue the extreme, argue the extreme. If you want to argue the recreational "bodybuilder", which seems to be what some of you are doing , that's a different game. In the case of i_love's friend, not even what I would call "a bodybuilder", as ,once again, and I thought this had been made very clear, I was talking of extremes. Though a different one than I am now putting forth (the extreme of emphasizing physique and size thereof above every other consideration). Was/is her "bodybuilder" friend a 250 lb behemoth? I'm in doubt, given when she said about his other interests. Well, assuming she's not really out of shape.
I honestly don't understand what y'all are being so sensitive about. Mreik in particular. Someone please explain to me what's so offensive about saying, 'I don't think it's very bright to gun for muscular size and definition over all other considerations, but to each his own, and I definitely respect the prompt to self-actualization!' I mean that's all I did. Then I merely replied to comments that addressed me or something I said directly or generally.
It is my observation that for people who subscribe to what Henry wrote about being Ironheads (Ozzy, I love yoo :luxlove
, you guys sure get your panties in a twist easily. It is, after all, only talk, seeking always to arrive at the truth through an exchange of ideas. Still waiting on one, though. A coherent argument, that is.But, just to be sure of this, I will address the last comment directly:
I agree, as I'm fairly sure I never actually said anything from which one might derive that particular implication.
Uh.. huh. Try reading this particular snippet of yours, re-reading your own previous post, and then telling me who is not saying anything new. Test of honesty!
I realize this is intended as some sort of insult, but I actually do enjoy ignorance. Unknown unknowns are in my opinion the best of the four types of knowledge. Sort of like how black is my favorite "color". A void is a very exciting thing! And, there you go, some philosophy.
This is me, going out of my way to confirm your irrational bias! Now, if we're lucky, nobody will notice that it's only the trench you've dug to hold your indefensible position, and maybe we can get back to talking about how awesome Henry Rollins is. ^_^
ps fitlife tact is just not saying true things
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I really enjoy reading Focus....he expresses himself so eloquently. Sure, he's not ripped, built or all cut-up.....but his voice still has a place in our forum.
I'm not sure what all this fuss is about, but it sure seems to be splitting hairs and detracting from the inspiration of the Rollin's essay.....seeing as I respect and like all you guys, I sure wish you'd all just get along and let it go. :action14:
I'm not sure what all this fuss is about, but it sure seems to be splitting hairs and detracting from the inspiration of the Rollin's essay.....seeing as I respect and like all you guys, I sure wish you'd all just get along and let it go. :action14:
Not many, but they don't all start saying dumb **** like this.
Those who can, do
Those who can't, teach
There you go, I just did
Of all the insecure kids that like to spit bile when the mood takes him, he's certainly the most eloquent
Now that is what I call eloquent!
Or should I say "Well said good sir but the pentameter of your ramblings on this forum do not meet my satisfactory standard of ignoramomity and or bia-ass-ity. Also I feel that your claims of being as big as a house ludacris and absurd. I do believe that I have made some errors in my punctuation, grammar and spelling.
Did you get my point???
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So, having started an argument that you have no intention or rational means of finishing, you resort to yet more ad hominem?
Yep. I definitely see how this makes me the insecure, emotionally stunted participant.
P.S. I particularly enjoyed the irony of your quoting to me what I said, which can be paraphrased as, 'I respect Ronnie Coleman's words more than Henry Rollins' because Ronnie Coleman is a bodybuilder by trade and Henry Rollins is a rockstar talking about bodybuilding.' And then thinking you were somehow being clever by pointing out in the same breath the above, which contradicts both the assertions made in your previous comment and your defense of the OP.
You said that Coleman was a prize heifer and Rollins was 'whiny-preachy', you really didn't think you were gonna rub people up the wrong way saying stuff like that? You didn't think that would cause an argument?
Someone posted something they thought people might find inspirational; if you didn't find it so then it's normally considered polite if you don't insult the writer of the quoted piece or knock the achievements of the people that a lot of guys on here aspire to.
It'd be like me going into a thread about cycling and starting to rip the piss out of Lance Armstrong for his weak upper body strength; it makes no sense and is unnecessary. I don't understand long distance cyclists so rather than insult them I simply respect the amount of work they put in and dedication they show and STFU; you should try doing the same
P.S. I particularly enjoyed the irony of your quoting to me what I said, which can be paraphrased as, 'I respect Ronnie Coleman's words more than Henry Rollins' because Ronnie Coleman is a bodybuilder by trade and Henry Rollins is a rockstar talking about bodybuilding.' And then thinking you were somehow being clever by pointing out in the same breath the above, which contradicts both the assertions made in your previous comment and your defense of the OP.
I was quoting that phrase as a joke, I tried to leave a clue with the smiley
Ah, the old, "it was a joke" defense. If that was intended as humor, I hate to be the one to tell you, but uh, even the basest wit does require some modicum of sense. Maybe I 'just don't get it'?
You seem to be mistaken about where responsibility lies for reactions. It goes like this: stimulus, perception, response. The perception part, that would be you mistakenly interpreting anything I've said that was not a direct response to an offered insult as anything other than friendliness.
But, ftr, as far as I'm concerned, nothing that's occurred here has been an argument. This is, at best, a discussion. Argumentation requires coherence, which is something you have yet to display here.
Hey, why don't you cry about it some more? Because, afaik, it's normally considered polite not to attack people without just cause. Any reasonable person will note that other than go out of my way (initially) to be pleasant and reasonable in the face of outright hostility, I've merely returned tit for tat. And this did not encompass knocking Ronnie Coleman or Henry Rollins. To say that a bird is a bird is not knocking it. If I had been trying to insult them, I would have done considerably better, I assure you. If it helps you understand, I will be more than happy to do so.
Your analogue fails. Horribly.
What it would actually be like is you going into a thread about cycling quoting Richard Simmons writing about how bad ass he is because he thinks about the Tour de France a lot and how everyone should be more badass like him in order to "overcome" their personal issues and then saying something nice like, 'Oh, Richard Simmons. I like that cat! Yeah, he's helped a lot of people. Little crazy, but hey, whatever gets the job done.' And then being attacked for it. And then pointing out that you have a lot of respect for the idea (in a doomed effort to be cumbersomely, outstandingly conciliatory) behind what Richard Simmons wrote, you just find it a little silly because Richard Simmons is Richard Simmons and not Lance Armstrong, and you don't really get what not being afraid of ponies has to do with cycling.
In any case, I will STFU now, because humoring your attempts to "argue" with me is starting to feel a lot like lying to a class of kindergarten kids about the existence of Santa Claus.
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