Fit for life diet?

[JackieJ1]

I am sorry you may have this somewhere but i couldn't find it.
I started this diet 4 days ago, i have been on it 4 tmes by now, in the duration of some 4 months and it really is great to lose weight and cleanse your body.
I guess some of you are acquanted with this diet, i am doing a stricter version that is very popular in my country for mor ethan a decade and people ar every satisfied.
In general the Fit for life encompasses fruit until noon, then no combining foods, lik emixing proteins with carbs or starch and carbs or proteins, and that is it. Also the fruit on an empty stomach so you can absorb all the vitamins of it, as he claims.
WEll the diet everyone follows and believs is successful is as follows and chanes every 4 days:
1 day: fruit until noon, protein(meat or eggs) and salad, soup without the noodles at the end and a piece of bread for lunch, for dinner the same only half of that and no soup.

2 day: fruit until noon, for lunch starch ( beans, potatoes, rice, lentils, peas or the such) with salad, for dinner the same only half.

3 day: fruit until noon; lunch carbs (spaghetti, macaroni ..) with olive oil and sea salt , for dinner the same only half of that.

4 day: fruit only as much as like and whichever, and if hungry some nuts.

Then you repetr this again, minumim 3 months and after that you follow th general Fit for life way of eating.

I KNOW there are many here that are opposing it , as there are some reviews against it and maybe some ar eright, i am no scientist to know this,
When i read hi sbook it sounded very logical to me, and it became my bible for years.
I must add that i do find it hard with th efruit UNTIL 12, I do eat it every morning, but sometimes i can hardly wait to eat my lunch at 12, and the have my dinner at 5 or so.
I have made a big break since i came here in Canada a couple of years and i gained some 10 punds which is a lot for me 160 punds, 162 cm high, 42 years old.
I know that age, slow matbolism, inactivity, emotional state and genes also contributed for me to gain weight , but i must take control before it is too late.
I want to know if anyone has tried this diet and whatthey think and feel.
Hope there are some here, or maybe this diet is outdated and comprimised, i really don;t know, that is why i am here to talk about it and the diet advise.

Thank you, Jackie

 

[Steve]

Asking others what they think of a diet plan is rather silly. Everyone responds differently to diet plans. Hell, I'm not even a fan of plans.... they're too rigid. I don't really see a point in them when you can simply eat the foods you enjoy, eat balanced, and control calories.

 

[JackieJ1]

Hi Steve;

I want to share exeperiences with people that have tried this diet and are MAYBE on it. I also do not know how to do calorie count, do not know nothing about it.
I just need a plan to follow or WHAT to eat, i really cannot second guess this!

since i am writing this here, means i want to justify with majority of people that it is healthy, i knwo it is effiecient, but i want to see if it is really true what the critics say, even though today all is propaganda!

 

[maleficent]

I posted a review of the diet from a reputable source.. you disagree w ith it - and that's your choice.. .

This guy wrote the book to make money... pure and simple there's no empirical evidence that this diet will work long term (andin your case, it wasn't a long term fix because as soonas you went off the diet you gained back weight) A sound plan is one you can stick with forever... and it shouldn't be a challenge to follow.

Calorie counting is not hard -it's just a matter of paying attention to what you're putting in your mouth

 

[Steve]

Hi Steve;

I want to share exeperiences with people that have tried this diet and are MAYBE on it.

Why?

Just as low carb works well for some and not others... this diet plan will be the same.

You need to experiment. If the diet contains balance of foods and gets you results, great.

If it's not working, it's time to reevaluate.

I also do not know how to do calorie count, do not know nothing about it.

Do you know what 50+50 is?

If so, chances are REALLY GOOD that you can count calories. And no, this is not a joke. I know you can read since you are participating here on this forum.

If you can read food labels, buy a cheap food scale, and use something like excel or fitday.com... you can't go wrong. If you don't want to go that route where rigidity is slim to none... simply test different diet plans until you find one that you enjoy and works for you.

This is all about experimentation no matter how you slice it. Nobody is going to be able to tell you exactly what to do, no person and no plan, simply b/c we are all unique.

 

[JackieJ1]

Well actually i neither agree nor disagree! The so called diet "Diamond" (back home) ,is a little stricter and that is why people stop it after some months and teh n you have to be careful, which i wasn't.
But Fit for life is to always eat that way and not mix foods and this has been in my brain a long time, so really that is why i need DISCUSSION from peopel not reviews which hinestly i don;t beleiev in anything any much, so we can talk about it.
I know you are not for diets and neither am i, BUT i have gained 10 pounds here, i was 150 (which wasn;t skinny either) but i became 160 and that is toooo much for me. Since i ate too much, (not too much, but ate wrong foods) and i did start to execise in the gym this spring, but had to start to work, and work until 7 and there is no way how i can get to the gym, too many obligations.
Also, i have to now restrict my diet to lose weight, otheriwise if i just cut off somethings as i did , it didn't work, don;t knwo why but it didn;'t, That;s why i want something more rigorous, but not starving and more sound.
I am not here really to oppose or disrepsect anything here, i just want to hear IF poeple are on thsi diet and whet THEY think of it.
I am also willing to learn and see how i can maintane my diet in the longrun, but for now I MUST lose this weight, as i cannot breathe from my stomach and these days it is already reduced a little.

Thanks Jackie

 

[JackieJ1]

Why?

Just as low carb works well for some and not others... this diet plan will be the same.

You need to experiment. If the diet contains balance of foods and gets you results, great.

If it's not working, it's time to reevaluate.




Do you know what 50+50 is?

If so, chances are REALLY GOOD that you can count calories. And no, this is not a joke. I know you can read since you are participating here on this forum.

If you can read food labels, buy a cheap food scale, and use something like excel or fitday.com... you can't go wrong. If you don't want to go that route where rigidity is slim to none... simply test different diet plans until you find one that you enjoy and works for you.

This is all about experimentation no matter how you slice it. Nobody is going to be able to tell you exactly what to do, no person and no plan, simply b/c we are all unique.

Thanks Steve;
But i don;'t know how much calories example in 2 meat, or pieces of bread, or potatoes, they ar enot labeled, you see so many thing i don;t know, i must learn all this, but don;t know how and where to begin!

And to empahsise thsi now once againa and for the last time:

I want to know if anything from this diet is UNHEALTHY and wrong, as i sometimes feel it is too much to starve so long until lunch or other points,(even though the results are fanstic, IF MAINTAINED )
I think this is simple. But if i don;t see to find anyone that can share their exepreinece, maybe i am on the wrong track, i guess majority wins always.


Jackie

 

[Steve]

Well actually i neither agree nor disagree! The so called diet "Diamond" (back home) ,is a little stricter and that is why people stop it after some months and teh n you have to be careful, which i wasn't.
But Fit for life is to always eat that way and not mix foods and this has been in my brain a long time, so really that is why i need DISCUSSION from peopel not reviews which hinestly i don;t beleiev in anything any much, so we can talk about it.

Don't mix foods?

You mean don't eat chicken with broccoli or something like that?

If so, that's completely retarded.

I know you are not for diets and neither am i,

I'm all for diets, assuming they're based on sound principles and the basics.

I'm totally against diets who exist solely to fatten the wallets of their 'creators.' Said creators usually use voodoo science and information to entice people into believing the diet plan is miraculous and you can't live without it.

They usually make it seem real technical and rigid too b/c people buy into the concept of "if it's tricky and hard it must work."

Don't mix foods?

That sounds ridiculous and too rigid.

BUT i have gained 10 pounds here, i was 150 (which wasn;t skinny either) but i became 160 and that is toooo much for me. Since i ate too much, (not too much, but ate wrong foods)

No, you ate too much.

The wrong foods don't make you gain weight unless you ate too much of them.

Fat is stored energy. You don't create energy out of thin air.

Also, i have to now restrict my diet to lose weight, otheriwise if i just cut off somethings as i did , it didn't work, don;t knwo why but it didn;'t, That;s why i want something more rigorous, but not starving and more sound.

I don't follow.

I am not here really to oppose or disrepsect anything here, i just want to hear IF poeple are on thsi diet and whet THEY think of it.

You're here on a public forum to get opinions. That's what you're getting right now. Many people come in here saying they're looking for opinions and information when in reality they're simply looking for validation of their preconceived notions.

Don't fall into that trap.

And you don't need to walk on egg shells explaining your motives over and over again. This is a simple discussion regarding a particular topic. It isn't about you as an individual just as it isn't about me as an individual.

 

[Steve]

Thanks Steve;
But i don;'t know how much calories example in 2 meat, or pieces of bread, or potatoes, they ar enot labeled, you see so many thing i don;t know, i must learn all this, but don;t know how and where to begin!

Yea but you aren't willing to learn it seems.

I already saw the recommendation handed to you to check out .

If you go there, you could simply input how much of a particular meat you ate and it would calculate it for you.

And to empahsise thsi now once againa and for the last time:

I want to know if anything from this diet is UNHEALTHY and wrong, as i sometimes feel it is too much to starve so long until lunch or other points,(even though the results are fanstic, IF MAINTAINED )

Basically you only want to hear from people who will validate your diet?

Not from anyone else, even if these others actually know a thing or two. I gotcha.... over and out.

 

[JackieJ1]

Don't mix foods?

You mean don't eat chicken with broccoli or something like that?

If so, that's completely retarded.



I'm all for diets, assuming they're based on sound principles and the basics.

I'm totally against diets who exist solely to fatten the wallets of their 'creators.' Said creators usually use voodoo science and information to entice people into believing the diet plan is miraculous and you can't live without it.

They usually make it seem real technical and rigid too b/c people buy into the concept of "if it's tricky and hard it must work."

Don't mix foods?

That sounds ridiculous and too rigid.



No, you ate too much.

The wrong foods don't make you gain weight unless you ate too much of them.

Fat is stored energy. You don't create energy out of thin air.



I don't follow.



You're here on a public forum to get opinions. That's what you're getting right now. Many people come in here saying they're looking for opinions and information when in reality they're simply looking for validation of their preconceived notions.

Don't fall into that trap.

And you don't need to walk on egg shells explaining your motives over and over again. This is a simple discussion regarding a particular topic. It isn't about you as an individual just as it isn't about me as an individual.

Ok when i mean mixing foods i mean meat and potatoes and rice, meat and brocolli is ok, but not meat and bread, or bread and potatoes and similar.

I am not falling into any trap, i just want to see AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR RIGHT, OR HELATHY OR UNHEALTHY that is what i am saying.
the only reason, why i have been sticking to this diet is that it really has wokred for me as i said, if maintaned.
i am also not here to just follo wthis, but just wnat to know the above written.
You (Or Maleficint have already stated that you do not agree (according to reviews) that this is healthy or good, and i you are more acquanited than me that is for sure.
I am just a beginner in this, with limited knowlegde and resources too,
I needed to learn many things, and do not know what do , if this one is proved to be no good,
You kno wit is hard to change a long time beleif, and a belif that has been accepted by majority for a long time, this means all of these people there are deceived and so am i. And i need to research this.

Talking about a certian topic, means also individually me, as i am concerned about me, i am in no position yet to give advise or help anyone, i came here for help and advise. Does this mean i have to refrain from asking questions about how I should do this and lose weight? Sorry i didn't get this part.

 

[Steve]

Ok when i mean mixing foods i mean meat and potatoes and rice, meat and brocolli is ok, but not meat and bread, or bread and potatoes and similar.

Yea, that's silly. Real silly.

I am not falling into any trap, i just want to see AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG OR RIGHT, OR HELATHY OR UNHEALTHY that is what i am saying.
the only reason, why i have been sticking to this diet is that it really has wokred for me as i said, if maintaned.
i am also not here to just follo wthis, but just wnat to know the above written.

Sorry I can't help you further. I don't think this is a popular diet at all around these parts (for good reason I might add) so I doubt you're going to find many others who can give you their experience with the diet.

You (Or Maleficint have already stated that you do not agree (according to reviews) that this is healthy or good, and i you are more acquanited than me that is for sure.

Wasn't me.

I've only stated based on what I understand about nutrition and the body that it's a silly diet. If you like it though and it works for you, my opinion of it means very little.

I am just a beginner in this, with limited knowlegde and resources too,

Read the stickies here at the forum.

Especially the "words of wisdom" thread.

You kno wit is hard to change a long time beleif, and a belif that has been accepted by majority for a long time, this means all of these people there are deceived and so am i. And i need to research this.

Sorry, that majority just doesn't exist in the real world. People who actually study nutrition don't agree that you can't combine foods if you want to lose weight.

If your 'majority' is of ignorant people that don't understand nutrition... then I buy your idea.

I do, however, know how hard it is to change beliefs. The mind is a powerful beast.

Talking about a certian topic, means also individually me, as i am concerned about me, i am in no position yet to give advise or help anyone, i came here for help and advise. Does this mean i have to refrain from asking questions about how I should do this and lose weight? Sorry i didn't get this part.

You lost me.

 

[JackieJ1]

Ok sorry Steve;
I had no idea this was not popular anymore! This is the third review i did read , once i did wnat to find his website and i read some negative things and now this one.
I also have not seen that link yet, i guess i will learn some things.

And probably this is not the place thread to talk bout me, i might have written this all in the wrong place.

I also don't know how people of a large mass be ignorant, if i was, maybe someone has done thier studies, i do know a doctor cardioligist , actually the best there, that has promoted the more stricetr diet, but fo rhis patients, But then his followers have spread at around and have diet clubs with many members.This is quite a shock to me, i must have been totally out of date and the real world then!!!!!!

 

[maleficent]

Doctors aren't always the best source for nutrition information -they might be able to fix defects in a heart and other body parts -but most of them had one semester of nutrition many many years ago and it was very generic information... They don't always stay current on what is effective and what's not.

Diet clubs are after your money -long term success on a diet is bad for their bottom line.. so you do the math on that one...

We've told you what works and it's not complicated... Spend some time reading teh threads at the top of each forum -the ones with the word sticky by them... you'll get some much needed info

 

[Steve]

I'm done conversing about this, for what it's worth. I've said my bit and it's starting to feel more and more like I'm trying to sell ice to Eskimos. I'm a terrible salesman so I don't see much sunshine at the end of the road.

Best to you though! If you do some reading and have questions on something I'm more familiar with, I'll gladly offer up some advice.

 

[douknowjello]

Hey Jackie,

I see where you were going. I saw a bunch of posts for different diets and I too put a post up at one point to see if I could find anyone else doing the same thing as me to share ideas with and tips. I got advised to go to another forum that was doing just that diet, lol. Mwahahaha, they are not rid of me so easily!!! I like it here

I've never looked into "fit for life" so I can't give you any feedback. Wow, a diet I haven't actually tried, lmao. Like Steve said, everyone is different and what works for one person may not work for another. Me personally I'm borderline diabetic so I'm watching carbs and sugar. I was able to find alot of help just using search engines and surfing other groups. I didn't join a low carb forum because I like the variety here and this forum gives alot of support and has challenges to work out that I haven't seen elsewhere yet.

Anyway I'm starting to ramble but I was going to say if you are feeling restricted on your diet right now I really think it's time to rethink it. I'm not saying you have to switch, especially since I've never done the plan you're on. But two people can do the same plan and it be very different. I think the trick is planning and trying new recipes. Also, and this is a biggie for me, having back up meals for when you have a day nothing is thawed out and you are in a hurry or don't know what to cook. And variety....seriously every diet I've felt deprived on was because I got in a rut of only cooking what I knew to cook and I ended up eating the same crap every day until I didn't even want to look at it.

So basically experiment and see if you can get this plan tailored to suit you but then if that doesn't work I'd try something else, because any diet that feels that restrictive can't last. You'll know when you get it right because you won't feel like you're on a diet. Also as far as calories go you can go to just about any used book store and find every type of diet counter (calories, carbs, fats etc.) and they come from basic book size to the kind that will fit in your purse. I'd use the online one too but having one on you comes in very handy. Good luck