Changing the way i feel
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jasper1
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Yesterday after cleaning the house we left , went to our friends place and stayedthere until night.So they did the cooking but i managed well!i went out and go a lettuce and balsamic vinegar so i could have my salad too.It was a meat dish,probbly very fattening , so i had a small portion and filed the plate with the salad!!!
So we were speaking and our guy friend said that even if i loose weight i'll still be wide.Cause my body is wider.I mean i gain weight and just seem to get wide.my tymmy and everything dont go OUTWARDS...but it all just widens.I hope you get what i m saying.He said that 65 kg is way to little for me and if i reach that goal i'll probably be terrible and nearly dead!!!yes he actually said those kind words!
I am 1,70 in height and i think heavy framed.I really thing 65 kg will be great...
Anyway im makin lunch now.I'll get on later for my food intake
So we were speaking and our guy friend said that even if i loose weight i'll still be wide.Cause my body is wider.I mean i gain weight and just seem to get wide.my tymmy and everything dont go OUTWARDS...but it all just widens.I hope you get what i m saying.He said that 65 kg is way to little for me and if i reach that goal i'll probably be terrible and nearly dead!!!yes he actually said those kind words!
I am 1,70 in height and i think heavy framed.I really thing 65 kg will be great...
Anyway im makin lunch now.I'll get on later for my food intake
Can't type much, hands still very sore. Your friend is probably right in one sense- some women are just wider than others- I have quite big hips, and so can never be skinny there because my bones are wider. Maybe that's what he meant?
For the weight goal, just see how you go. Get down to a healthy weight (preferably one approved by your doctor, but without that help, within a healthy BMI range) and think about how you feel- healthwise, appearance wise, everything. Be prepared to change your goal based on how you're feeling. That's what I'm doing. My goal is 60kg (I'm a little shorter than you- 167cm) but I'm happy to start rethinking that when I get down to 65kg. (I'm 65.5kg at the moment, I suspect I'm going to keep going, but I'm leaving that possibility open)
For the weight goal, just see how you go. Get down to a healthy weight (preferably one approved by your doctor, but without that help, within a healthy BMI range) and think about how you feel- healthwise, appearance wise, everything. Be prepared to change your goal based on how you're feeling. That's what I'm doing. My goal is 60kg (I'm a little shorter than you- 167cm) but I'm happy to start rethinking that when I get down to 65kg. (I'm 65.5kg at the moment, I suspect I'm going to keep going, but I'm leaving that possibility open)
overtherainbow
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Hey Jasper,
I was chubby as a teenager until I went on a diet at the age of 19/20. I truly believed I was big boned, and that I would nevr get below a size 12/14uk (I was almost an 18 at the time), anyway, I got to size 12, and I still had fat on me. Then I got to size 8, and I wasn't anorexic looking then either. I believed I had a big frame, but really I didn't, so the same might be true for you as well. So don't think that this diet is pointless!
You are lucky to put on weight "width ways", that way you won't get rolls of fat on your tummy, which will shrink funnily and leave you with a saggy stomach. If you put on weight on your hips, you won't have that problem. I have a big soft belly which juts out almost as far as my boobs when relaxed, and trust me, its not good!
I tried feta cheese for the first time last week- mmmmmmmm, scrummy but bad bad BAD. Glad your managing to limit your portions x
I was chubby as a teenager until I went on a diet at the age of 19/20. I truly believed I was big boned, and that I would nevr get below a size 12/14uk (I was almost an 18 at the time), anyway, I got to size 12, and I still had fat on me. Then I got to size 8, and I wasn't anorexic looking then either. I believed I had a big frame, but really I didn't, so the same might be true for you as well. So don't think that this diet is pointless!
You are lucky to put on weight "width ways", that way you won't get rolls of fat on your tummy, which will shrink funnily and leave you with a saggy stomach. If you put on weight on your hips, you won't have that problem. I have a big soft belly which juts out almost as far as my boobs when relaxed, and trust me, its not good!
I tried feta cheese for the first time last week- mmmmmmmm, scrummy but bad bad BAD. Glad your managing to limit your portions x
jasper1
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i've always belived i'm heavy framed.Even as a teenager i was chubby sometimes , sometimes slimer.Never plain SLIM!and next to my friends i was always the heviest the tallest generaly the biggest!So maybe because of my nearly always overweight i've got this idea stuck in my head.
My tummy probably wont get saggy but i've already got strech marks on there from my pregnancy....I mean ...just imagine how much that belly of mine streched out!!!They are starting to change colour , so im praying that they wont be so noticable in the future.
Now i've got a question.
My snack is a big yoghurt 300 ml with NO sugar NO fat.Its very tasty and sweet.The calories in that is 204.I was wondering if i could trade that for a Mars bar.If i'm not mistaken it has 278 cals.
So question is.
If every day i eat a mars bar and cut those calories from my regular snack or something else will i be palying dangerous or will i be on the safe side?
My tummy probably wont get saggy but i've already got strech marks on there from my pregnancy....I mean ...just imagine how much that belly of mine streched out!!!They are starting to change colour , so im praying that they wont be so noticable in the future.
Now i've got a question.
My snack is a big yoghurt 300 ml with NO sugar NO fat.Its very tasty and sweet.The calories in that is 204.I was wondering if i could trade that for a Mars bar.If i'm not mistaken it has 278 cals.
So question is.
If every day i eat a mars bar and cut those calories from my regular snack or something else will i be palying dangerous or will i be on the safe side?
overtherainbow
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My daughter is 2 and a half years old, and I have just noticed recently that my stretch marks are the same colour as the rest of my skin now. You can still see them, but they're not angry and purple any more 
It pisses me off that men can father as many kids as they like, and not have a single flaw to show for it, but we do! But such is life! I would write and complain if i could.
Hmmm.... the mars bar..... I have found that when I eat junk, I crave junk, and when I don't, I, erm... don't. I think it might be a bit risky eating it for that reason. Also, food guilt is quite an important part of a successful diet, if you stop feeling guilty about a chocolate every day, maybe you will start to not mind as much about eating other bad stuff. Some people can eat a small treat every day with no problems (amy1985, I salute you)... but I think that most overweight people have had trouble in the past with resisting their urges, and overindulging, so you've gotta be wary of that. I was gonna suggest that you get fun sized mars bars, but if they were in my cupboard, they would be eaten in a moment of weakness. Maybe you should try it, and if you can stick to just that one naughty thing every day, then that is GREAT! But if you feel your willpower starting to slip, then I wouldn't even go there. x
It pisses me off that men can father as many kids as they like, and not have a single flaw to show for it, but we do! But such is life! I would write and complain if i could. Hmmm.... the mars bar..... I have found that when I eat junk, I crave junk, and when I don't, I, erm... don't. I think it might be a bit risky eating it for that reason. Also, food guilt is quite an important part of a successful diet, if you stop feeling guilty about a chocolate every day, maybe you will start to not mind as much about eating other bad stuff. Some people can eat a small treat every day with no problems (amy1985, I salute you)... but I think that most overweight people have had trouble in the past with resisting their urges, and overindulging, so you've gotta be wary of that. I was gonna suggest that you get fun sized mars bars, but if they were in my cupboard, they would be eaten in a moment of weakness. Maybe you should try it, and if you can stick to just that one naughty thing every day, then that is GREAT! But if you feel your willpower starting to slip, then I wouldn't even go there. x
although it wouldn't be healthy you could do it so long as your not prone to binge on more than one.
On treats- yes, you could, but...
There's what Ruth has already said. A lot of people have trouble controlling those urges (I have my own problems sometimes, as I've proven tonight) and just one for less calories turns into ten for way more. You need to work out how strong you are and whether you can stop at just a little. Perhaps do that by buying one small Mars bar (not a whole packet of them) from a convenience store, taking it home, eating it at the time you choose, and see how you feel. That way you minimise the damage by not having the rest of the packet to run back to.
The second thing is nutrition. I try to keep my empty calories to a minimum- my chocolate is typically 50-150 calories at most, and not every day (even if it is most days). The yoghurt is much better for you at the end of the day, and you'll probably get a lot more bulk (which is satisfying in an important way, I find, to dieting) than you will out of the chocolate. I think it's also an important diet strategy to learn to enjoy and be satisfied with healthy alternatives (I think that's why I can limit myself to very small amounts of chocolate).
Not sure I'm with Ruth on the guilt though. One of the things I love about my diet is that the first time since I was a very little girl, I don't feel guilty about chocolate anymore. I just enjoy it. It's defined, it's within my limits, and I know I'll stop there (except for rare almost slips like tonight)- and I know my nutrition's pretty good otherwise. I think guilt can cause a problematic relationship with food. But I can understand it being a driver to keep people on the diet.
There's what Ruth has already said. A lot of people have trouble controlling those urges (I have my own problems sometimes, as I've proven tonight) and just one for less calories turns into ten for way more. You need to work out how strong you are and whether you can stop at just a little. Perhaps do that by buying one small Mars bar (not a whole packet of them) from a convenience store, taking it home, eating it at the time you choose, and see how you feel. That way you minimise the damage by not having the rest of the packet to run back to.
The second thing is nutrition. I try to keep my empty calories to a minimum- my chocolate is typically 50-150 calories at most, and not every day (even if it is most days). The yoghurt is much better for you at the end of the day, and you'll probably get a lot more bulk (which is satisfying in an important way, I find, to dieting) than you will out of the chocolate. I think it's also an important diet strategy to learn to enjoy and be satisfied with healthy alternatives (I think that's why I can limit myself to very small amounts of chocolate).
Not sure I'm with Ruth on the guilt though. One of the things I love about my diet is that the first time since I was a very little girl, I don't feel guilty about chocolate anymore. I just enjoy it. It's defined, it's within my limits, and I know I'll stop there (except for rare almost slips like tonight)- and I know my nutrition's pretty good otherwise. I think guilt can cause a problematic relationship with food. But I can understand it being a driver to keep people on the diet.
jasper1
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thanks guys fir answering
The thought came to me when i went to the store tonight ti get smokes
I saw the mars bars there (they are definatly not my favourites,Twix is!) looked at the cals and then when i came home i ate my yoghurt.\SO i wondered
Im still triying to understand dieting as well as possible.So its just the calories that count.
If two identical people ate a 1200 calories a day but one was geting them from healthy foods (5 meals a day) and the other from junk would they loose the same weight?
Im not going to buy chocolates and have them here in my home!!!it will drive me crazy,And when im feeling tempted they would just be there waiting for me!!!
But i really want to pig out on a waffle and ice=cream....i've been thinking about it for some time , and sayibg to myself that i'll have it when im down to 88 kg that 1.5kg away!!!so i'll hang in there
Before change of eating my diet was something like this
BR.Coffe
12ish Cheese pie
Lunch most times spagetti with red sause extremly lots of grated cheese(spaggeti 250 gr cooked!!!!)
Inbetween snack Some homemade cake,pie...(i made one at least 2 a week)and the portion was like nearly half of the baking pan
Dinner was the same as lunch or if out 2 souvlaki and fried potatoes with mayo sause
Midnight a whole BIG slab of chocolate
Jesus...no wonder i went up to nearly 100 kilos....
SO Now from May2nd that i started i have had in sweets
1 baby eclair(and that because my friend said that my sugar level was down cause i was dizzy.
1 tiny cadburys easter egg.Tiny little thing must of weighed 5gr!
1 small chocolate waffer that i found in my babys room
So thats it for over a month....Hope i get to 88 FAST!!!!
The thought came to me when i went to the store tonight ti get smokes
I saw the mars bars there (they are definatly not my favourites,Twix is!) looked at the cals and then when i came home i ate my yoghurt.\SO i wondered
Im still triying to understand dieting as well as possible.So its just the calories that count.
If two identical people ate a 1200 calories a day but one was geting them from healthy foods (5 meals a day) and the other from junk would they loose the same weight?
Im not going to buy chocolates and have them here in my home!!!it will drive me crazy,And when im feeling tempted they would just be there waiting for me!!!
But i really want to pig out on a waffle and ice=cream....i've been thinking about it for some time , and sayibg to myself that i'll have it when im down to 88 kg that 1.5kg away!!!so i'll hang in there
Before change of eating my diet was something like this
BR.Coffe
12ish Cheese pie
Lunch most times spagetti with red sause extremly lots of grated cheese(spaggeti 250 gr cooked!!!!)
Inbetween snack Some homemade cake,pie...(i made one at least 2 a week)and the portion was like nearly half of the baking pan
Dinner was the same as lunch or if out 2 souvlaki and fried potatoes with mayo sause
Midnight a whole BIG slab of chocolate
Jesus...no wonder i went up to nearly 100 kilos....
SO Now from May2nd that i started i have had in sweets
1 baby eclair(and that because my friend said that my sugar level was down cause i was dizzy.
1 tiny cadburys easter egg.Tiny little thing must of weighed 5gr!
1 small chocolate waffer that i found in my babys room
So thats it for over a month....Hope i get to 88 FAST!!!!
There are two things to consider- weight and nutrition. Theoretically for the purposes of weight loss alone, 1200 calories is 1200 calories, so it's the same good food or bad. In practice, it doesn't always work like that because "bad food" is calorie dense and so you need more of it to feel full (and thus you're much more likely to overeat with it). Also there are things to consider like excess sodium intake, which will cause you to retain water and thus weight (which is far more likely eating "crap").
But nutrition is really important too- the better you eat the better your health will be, there's no getting around that.
If you can manage it and you feel deprived of your old foods, try an 80-20 rule. Eat healthily 80% of the time and badly 20% of the time. It'll be less good for you and will probably slow your weight loss (depending on, among other things, sodium intake and the calories of the bad eating), but it's probably better you stay on a not-perfect diet and get there slower than give up on a perfect diet and not get anywhere. (But still try to eat well most of the time)
But nutrition is really important too- the better you eat the better your health will be, there's no getting around that.
If you can manage it and you feel deprived of your old foods, try an 80-20 rule. Eat healthily 80% of the time and badly 20% of the time. It'll be less good for you and will probably slow your weight loss (depending on, among other things, sodium intake and the calories of the bad eating), but it's probably better you stay on a not-perfect diet and get there slower than give up on a perfect diet and not get anywhere. (But still try to eat well most of the time)
jasper1
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With al this chocolate i forgot to write down todays menu
BR Coffee---100 cal
Lunch Steamed zucchini and beetroot (it wasnt good...)---im not sure but not more than 150
Dinner 1 tortilla wrap with a spoon of extra light mayo,2 thin slices of cheese(10% fat)tomatoes and some letucce/tomato salad to fill the plate.---Not sure again Wrap was 225+30mayo+20tomatoe+the chesse?
Late Snack Diet yoghurt---204cal
729 cals counted.NO cals for the cheese (plus one slice i put down while making it)
No cals on the lettuce salad.....
Dont think i ve gone over 1500 though!
No work out........
BR Coffee---100 cal
Lunch Steamed zucchini and beetroot (it wasnt good...)---im not sure but not more than 150
Dinner 1 tortilla wrap with a spoon of extra light mayo,2 thin slices of cheese(10% fat)tomatoes and some letucce/tomato salad to fill the plate.---Not sure again Wrap was 225+30mayo+20tomatoe+the chesse?
Late Snack Diet yoghurt---204cal
729 cals counted.NO cals for the cheese (plus one slice i put down while making it)
No cals on the lettuce salad.....
Dont think i ve gone over 1500 though!
No work out........
jasper1
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yes no way getting around that!health wise theres nothing else to do but eat well and exersice!Up untill now i think im doing ok.Seems to be a kg a week loss since this is my 7th week in and 6,5 kg lost.Im not giving up though.I feel ok about my eating.i have bad moments but i'll make it through!
Dont want to start eating bad on regular bases..im not going to be that person again....
jasper1
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Goodday to all!
So i've been told that our B.f.'s are coming to stay with us for 3-4 days with the kids!So includine mine there's going to be a 2 year old,a 1 and half year old and 5 year old ALL BOYS in the house!!!OH MY GOD how do u manage that?|Our friends are getting there flat painted and cant be in there with the smell!!!I must stay strong cause we are going to be ordering out for sure!!!must go to the market and stock up on veggies for me!!!!!!
Must do some bike today.
So i've been told that our B.f.'s are coming to stay with us for 3-4 days with the kids!So includine mine there's going to be a 2 year old,a 1 and half year old and 5 year old ALL BOYS in the house!!!OH MY GOD how do u manage that?|Our friends are getting there flat painted and cant be in there with the smell!!!I must stay strong cause we are going to be ordering out for sure!!!must go to the market and stock up on veggies for me!!!!!!
Must do some bike today.
jasper1
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Hanging on there!its a mad house!!!
Yestrday didnt get much to eat.
BR Coffe
Lunch Omelette with lots of veggies in and a thin slice of low fat cheese
Snack Yoghurt
Late at nigh Carrot
Work out 42 minutes st.bike---500 cals burnt
im down to 89 exactly today!!!!oh im really doing this!!!!
Thanks guys i owe a lot to you for helping and supporting!
im thinking of buying a treadmill but there expensive.The bike is really making my butt sore.
Yestrday didnt get much to eat.
BR Coffe
Lunch Omelette with lots of veggies in and a thin slice of low fat cheese
Snack Yoghurt
Late at nigh Carrot
Work out 42 minutes st.bike---500 cals burnt
im down to 89 exactly today!!!!oh im really doing this!!!!
Thanks guys i owe a lot to you for helping and supporting!
im thinking of buying a treadmill but there expensive.The bike is really making my butt sore.
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jasper1
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Nope no place to run or walk.
The beach front is far away id have to drive.Plus i dont feel comfortable joggin in public.I have done that in the past before 5 years!with a friend but i used to live right next to the sea side then.Now i dont.Plus leaving the house would be difficult with my boy.
Ill try searchng for a 2 nd hand treadmill.
I like the bike better but it eally hurts.And the pain makes it very hard to cycle and try get off when im done.Put pilows there but then i cant cycle@@@@
The beach front is far away id have to drive.Plus i dont feel comfortable joggin in public.I have done that in the past before 5 years!with a friend but i used to live right next to the sea side then.Now i dont.Plus leaving the house would be difficult with my boy.
Ill try searchng for a 2 nd hand treadmill.
I like the bike better but it eally hurts.And the pain makes it very hard to cycle and try get off when im done.Put pilows there but then i cant cycle@@@@