Any one on the HCG diet?

Ahhh the crash diet.

Here's the bottom line. Most people get fat because they have bad eating habits, often eating too much and eating unbalanced diets which are full of high calorie food. Losing weight is only half the battle, because without some kind of permanent change to your behaviour, once you finish the diet you'll revert back to old habits and put weight back on.

Most crash dieters put back on the weight once they finish their diets, it starts with a very rapid gain of fat after the diet has finish because the abuse to their body has messed with their metabolism. But more importantly they've not learned a better lifestyle, people revert back to their previous behaviour and in fact a lot of crash dieters end up gaining more weight after they've finished their diet than what they started, that kind of Yo-Yo diet is very bad for you.

Doctors (good doctors) recommend a HEALTHY and BALANCED diet with plenty of exercise to lose weight for a reason, simply because this is most reliable at causing weight loss but also maintaining correct weight after your diet is finished. What you're doing is learning how to treat your body properly and with respect, learning new routines and lifestyle changes which you can maintain for life.

If you cheat your diet you wont learn anything and statistically you're more likely to gain that weight back over a few years after your diet is finished, that's not my opinion that's just what studies show us about crash dieting.

This isn't an attack on HCG, there are plenty of sources which will tell you why it's not a good idea, this is about crash dieting in general, any crash diet where you use some kind of trick to rapidly lose weight.
 
I've got to say that any crash diet will fail. ESPECIALLY hCG, which once you aren't receiving the hormone you will put the weight back on. Every heard of pregnancy weight? From what you've been saying people should be super skinny when they have babies! And it should be easy to lose the weight afterwards because your hormone levels don't drop immediately because you had the child.

Long story short, you're tampering with something that isn't meant to be tampered with. I've heard of a great way to gain muscle, it's called steroids! But we say never ever take it because it causes LONG TERM problems. The 'hCG diet' simply hasn't been around as a diet long enough, with enough studies, to be able to say it has no side effects.

Just cut your calories and lose weight responsibly. I bet that you didn't lose weight before because you underestimated the calories you burn in a day, not what you ate. When was the last time you did strength training? Cardio is fantastic, but it doesn't boost your metabolism the same way that lean muscle mass does. I've seen people go on the hCG diet and then puff RIGHT BACK to where they were. You will be forced to eat healthy, or you will be forced to have no results afterwards.
 
Bouncewden said:
Well if you are morbidly obese the the diabetes might kill you before a round of HCG shots will.
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Possible, however it's been shown that yo-yo diets where you lose weight, gain weight, lose weight, gain weight is actually harder on your system and causes more health risks than being obese...

I'm really advocating a healthy approach to a healthy lifestyle. It's about being good to your body, not just good for your mirror.
 
Even if you are morbidly obese you can still lose weight quickly through entirely natural methods, really obese people have very high maintenance calories so can achieve quite high levels of initial weight loss while staying in a healthy calorie range
 
Hi Just another quick update, diet great, weight-loss fantastic, and I feel brilliant, I am planning on swimming and walking once off the hcg as a form of exercise, and also some resistance weights, and no I'm not planning any kids SAN, I have two already, 19 eldest & youngest 14 so I don't think I'd want to be getting bak to nappies and feeds after that break thanks! This diet is just the best I have ever done, I will put up before and after photo's after I'm finished this round. I fell like I have a new lease in life, I've dyed my hair and bought lovely new clothes, I feel like I'm becoming the real me again! (confident, well dressed and happy) I hope I don't put the weight back on, I doubt I will, this diet has trained me to eat proper portion sizes and the nutritional values of foods and what are best to eat with the least fat and calories. I may do another round but I think I will only need to do 21 days if I do, as I have lost nearly 30lbs of pure fat, no muscle loss what so ever, so although I am still about 20 lbs overweight for my height I certainly don't look it; I look like I maybe have another 10 lbs to lose, some of my friends say I shouldn't lose any more that I look perfect and to ignore the scales now, and just be happy with fitting in to my clothes, I think I agree with them, maybe I will, I am almost in a size 12 now from a size 20 and I also think I would like to do it without the aid of HCG, I dont want to become dependant on it, I just wanted a boost to get me started on this journey.

Bye for now!
 
Hi fellow dieters,


for anyone who is interested, I just thought I would give another update on my progress. It's been 3 and a half weeks since I finished phase 2 of the HCG diet and stopped the subcutaneous injections, during this time I have been to Lanzarote for two weeks. I did eat healthy, I had grilled fish, grilled steak and grilled chicken with lots of salad fro lunch, I did have some grilled breakfasts in the mornings, like bacon and poached eggs, but stayed away from bread!! I also did drink alcohol a number of times (vodka and pure orange juice) well I was on my holidays. I was dreading coming home to weigh myself..but to my surprise, I managed to lose another 6lbs!!! And since I'v come back from holiday I have managed to drop another 10lbs!!! I am almost at my goal weight, only another 4lbs to go and I will have lost 56lbs!!! I still have 2.5 weeks left on the maintenance phase, so I doubt that will be a problem. I as of yet still have not exercised at all, but my body is sculped from this diet, I have lost no lean muscle tissue, just dropped my BMI, my Weight and lots and lots of inches!!! My face looks full and healthy, not gaunt like it would on other diets I have tried.


I feel I will have to eat more carbohydrates once I get to my goal weight so as I don't go too thin!! I can't believe I can actually say that! Any way in my opinion and I must stress this is my opinion, this diet has been wonderful!! I did not feel one bit hungry during the 500 calorie phase, and it has totally changed my relationship with food. I really doubt I will ever put this weight on again, I no longer crave foods like I did before. Food is not the centre of my universe like it was in the past (constantly craving it, and permanently dieting), I feel totally in control and think about lots of other things that are fun to do! My GP ran some bloods on me and I am no longer borderline diabetic and my cholesterol is perfect!! So I am and feel totally healthy!


By for now!! :seeya:
 
Kami,


do what will work for you. and this seems to be working for you. HCG, Medical wieght loss and similar diets are not long term, they are a jump start to a new lifestyle getting you to your goal so you can keep there by maintaining a healthy balanced diet with a normal daily workout plan. all these people blasting these diets hate them for there own personal reasons.


gain success the best way you can. and keep healthy once you get there, just know if you eat how did when you were fat you will be fat once again!


keep it up


and this is all coming from someone who has lost over 170lbs and KEPT it off the last 5 years, based off a "yo-yo" diet some jackass's on here called it...
 
Easy on the insults. First and only warning.


As for the rest, people here don't 'hate' these weight loss methods, they are educated enough to realise when something is dangerous and very likely to do more harm than good, and they want to help and make people realise that maybe there is a better, most likely a lot healthier method to achieve the same results.


What to do with that advice is entirely up to the individual of course.


Just wondering, if somebody starts taking ecstasy or a similar drug to lose weight, and it works, are you going to sit there and tell them to do whatever works for them, and to use it as a 'jump start' before starting their healthy lifestyle?


Originally Posted by JeremyRice


Kami,



do what will work for you. and this seems to be working for you. HCG, Medical wieght loss and similar diets are not long term, they are a jump start to a new lifestyle getting you to your goal so you can keep there by maintaining a healthy balanced diet with a normal daily workout plan. all these people blasting these diets hate them for there own personal reasons.



gain success the best way you can. and keep healthy once you get there, just know if you eat how did when you were fat you will be fat once again!



keep it up



and this is all coming from someone who has lost over 170lbs and KEPT it off the last 5 years, based off a "yo-yo" diet some jackass's on here called it...
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Originally Posted by San


Easy on the insults. First and only warning.



As for the rest, people here don't 'hate' these weight loss methods, they are educated enough to realise when something is dangerous and very likely to do more harm than good, and they want to help and make people realise that maybe there is a better, most likely a lot healthier method to achieve the same results.



What to do with that advice is entirely up to the individual of course.



Just wondering, if somebody starts taking ecstasy or a similar drug to lose weight, and it works, are you going to sit there and tell them to do whatever works for them, and to use it as a 'jump start' before starting their healthy lifestyle?
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Who did I insult? no one specifically just the people who doubted me 4 years ago. so easy on the jumping to conclusions SAN.


and all the people who "hate" or are concerned who many of them have lost over 170lbs and kept it off???? So they are no authority and they have no experience in this matter, they are all people trying to lose the fat they so easily put on. I have seen plenty of people in my fire dept use the HCG diet and it works great for them, and if you think Medically trained Paramedics and EMT's are idiots and using a "stupid diet" or "dangerous" then your sadly mistaken.


and as for your ecstasy comment thats just bonkers. your comparing apples to hand grenades now. Legal diets are fine and do what works for you. This obviously is working for her,


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broad insults are still insults.



Keep it civil.



Heh bet that sounds weird coming from me huh? I know what it is like to be caught up defending your viewpoint. Sometimes you need to step back and breath.


When it comes down to it, we don't want people on risky diets. When the vast majority of medical science say this is dangerous, yes we will say not to do it. There are doctors who says otherwise (the minority). When I was discussing this, I gave articles from trusted medical sites. I went over the line with a statement or two but that is when I said sorry. I still think it is a dangerous diet and not a lifestyle change that is needed.


But this sudden flare up of insults? Not going to happen.
 
Originally Posted by Jericho


broad insults are still insults.





Keep it civil.





Heh bet that sounds weird coming from me huh? I know what it is like to be caught up defending your viewpoint. Sometimes you need to step back and breath.



When it comes down to it, we don't want people on risky diets. When the vast majority of medical science say this is dangerous, yes we will say not to do it. There are doctors who says otherwise (the minority). When I was discussing this, I gave articles from trusted medical sites. I went over the line with a statement or two but that is when I said sorry. I still think it is a dangerous diet and not a lifestyle change that is needed.



But this sudden flare up of insults? Not going to happen.
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lifestyle changes are a must, but doing something that in moderation or a short length of time is not harmful.. yes if you do a HCG or keto diet for extended periods of time you will Fup your liver.. but if you short term it, you are fine. The risk of that is better then being fat and dying of heart related diseases..


you do need the lifestyle change once your done.. diet and exercise are a must. and it must be permanent.


i don't like the insults you (jericho and a lot of the people in this thread have aimed towards OP) calling her crazy or stupid or her actions stupid for doing such a diet. thats more out of line then anything I said
 
That is fine if you don't like it, but don't post with the goal of throwing more insults out. You want to support her, support HER.


My viewpoint hasn't changed about this shortcut. I've already made it clear to Kami that in the end, I want her to stay safe in this. Something I noticed though is that it had calmed down till you spoke up with an attacking tone. You was warned and you did it again, thus the infraction and edit. You can support her. You can say something as simple as 'I disagree with the tone of some who have responded'....but don't go heaping insults to posters on that. When San gave you the one warning, That was it. I've given the infraction. Don't push a third time please....just focus on supporting her.
 
true two wrongs don't make a right..


and you are welcome to pm me this slap on the wrist rather then trying to within this "public" thread.


Kami keep it up, when people are hating on you, it means your doing something right!!


Originally Posted by Jericho


That is fine if you don't like it, but don't post with the goal of throwing more insults out. You want to support her, support HER.



My viewpoint hasn't changed about this shortcut. I've already made it clear to Kami that in the end, I want her to stay safe in this. Something I noticed though is that it had calmed down till you spoke up with an attacking tone. You was warned and you did it again, thus the infraction and edit. You can support her. You can say something as simple as 'I disagree with the tone of some who have responded'....but don't go heaping insults to posters on that. When San gave you the one warning, That was it. I've given the infraction. Don't push a third time please....just focus on supporting her.
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I just saw you in a whole new light. Are you really going to compare ecstasy, an illegal drug, to HCG? You do know that HCG is legal. Maybe before you comment you should become a little more informed. I've read literature on HCG, it is not something I would use, but has given several people results. Personally I rather do 1200-1400 calories, cardio, and resistance training.


Before you comment try to compare apples to apples. Maybe HCG to Steroids, they are both hormones.





Originally Posted by San


Easy on the insults. First and only warning.



As for the rest, people here don't 'hate' these weight loss methods, they are educated enough to realise when something is dangerous and very likely to do more harm than good, and they want to help and make people realise that maybe there is a better, most likely a lot healthier method to achieve the same results.



What to do with that advice is entirely up to the individual of course.



Just wondering, if somebody starts taking ecstasy or a similar drug to lose weight, and it works, are you going to sit there and tell them to do whatever works for them, and to use it as a 'jump start' before starting their healthy lifestyle?
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Don't you think you should follow your own advice Jericho? Lead by example. You are coming off as petty person, trying to get the last word in this battle of who posts last.


I came on here to check on how Kami is doing, not to see you both argue about using the word "j*$%a&&".


Anyone who can read and process what they have read can see your concerns about the diet. Let's keep the posts supportive, informative, or both.


It's scary to see how disagreements can lead to arguments so quickly on what is suppose to be a friendly site.



Kami is an adult capable of making a decision. I hope she did research both pro's and con's about the hcg diet.



Originally Posted by Jericho


broad insults are still insults.





Keep it civil.





Heh bet that sounds weird coming from me huh? I know what it is like to be caught up defending your viewpoint. Sometimes you need to step back and breath.



When it comes down to it, we don't want people on risky diets. When the vast majority of medical science say this is dangerous, yes we will say not to do it. There are doctors who says otherwise (the minority). When I was discussing this, I gave articles from trusted medical sites. I went over the line with a statement or two but that is when I said sorry. I still think it is a dangerous diet and not a lifestyle change that is needed.



But this sudden flare up of insults? Not going to happen.
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