it's true that any workout over 45 minutes is only going to dig into your recovery time if you are training at 100% intensity right???
45 minute exercises
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ya i heard that you should keep your exercises between 30-60 minutes; so if 61 minute is overtraining isnt 60 overtraining also? and anything close to 60?
rule of thumb is just that you should be able to get a good strength workout done in 45 minutes. after 60 mins of continuous exercise, your body is going into a catabolic state...very much the wrong thing for building stronger/bigger muscles.
for the same reason, weights before cardio...if you're forced to do them on the same day. alternate days is ideal.
if you can't get your workout done in 60 mins, you're either trying to do too much, or you're jerking around too much looking at gym hotties or BS'ing with your buddies.
for the same reason, weights before cardio...if you're forced to do them on the same day. alternate days is ideal.
if you can't get your workout done in 60 mins, you're either trying to do too much, or you're jerking around too much looking at gym hotties or BS'ing with your buddies.
what if you'r trying to get a HIT full body workout like some people tell me to do??? that will mean i have to do a lot of sets for different body parts and when at 100%; i have to rest like 3 minutes between sets.
this is why i dont do full body exercises...is this okay that i dont do full body workouts???
this is why i dont do full body exercises...is this okay that i dont do full body workouts???
Proteinboy said:
YES! How many more useless posts must you make? Quit spamming the forums with garbage
Hate to say it but I agree. If you have questions, just put them all on one post, not all over the place. I made a thread about what kind of food I ought to eat, and it's about halfway down the page where no one can see it. It only got one reply...from you. Just chill out on making posts, just put them into one post, so other people have space to say what they want, ok?
ok
: ( sorry i didnt realize guys i just have a lot of questions...
: ( sorry i didnt realize guys i just have a lot of questions...
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45 minute fullbody day
A)3 sets front squatsX6 reps; 2 min RI=~8-9 minutes
B1)3 sets push pressX6 reps
B2)3 sets Pendlay rowsX8 reps; 1.5 min RI between pairing
=~10 minutes
C1)2 sets inc db bench pressingX10 reps
C2)2 sets RDLsX10 reps; 1.5 min RI between pairing
=~12 minutes
=~31 minutes
This leaves another 15 minutes or so rotator cuff stuff, isolation aesthetic stuff, and etc. Of course this is just a small example of a set up...something off the top of my head to kinda' put together something tangible. If you did something like this every 72 hours or so, you'd have some good results.
My workouts usually take between 1 hour-1.5 hours
My throwing session can take up to 3 hours sometimes.
A)3 sets front squatsX6 reps; 2 min RI=~8-9 minutes
B1)3 sets push pressX6 reps
B2)3 sets Pendlay rowsX8 reps; 1.5 min RI between pairing
=~10 minutes
C1)2 sets inc db bench pressingX10 reps
C2)2 sets RDLsX10 reps; 1.5 min RI between pairing
=~12 minutes
=~31 minutes
This leaves another 15 minutes or so rotator cuff stuff, isolation aesthetic stuff, and etc. Of course this is just a small example of a set up...something off the top of my head to kinda' put together something tangible. If you did something like this every 72 hours or so, you'd have some good results.
My workouts usually take between 1 hour-1.5 hours
My throwing session can take up to 3 hours sometimes.
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evolution...have you ever hear of the chemical called cortisol
its a chemical your body creates after around working strenuously for 1 hour. cortisol eats up stored muscle and uses it for extra emergency energy.
you are overtraining; try keeping workouts under 1 hour
its a chemical your body creates after around working strenuously for 1 hour. cortisol eats up stored muscle and uses it for extra emergency energy.
you are overtraining; try keeping workouts under 1 hour
sorry but anyone who works out for "3 hours sometimes" DOESNT know what hes doing...how can you approve workouts for over 1 or even 2 hours??!!!
it doesnt make any sence...
it doesnt make any sence...
Proteinboy said:
haha ask Evo what his 1RM DL is then try to give him advice
junkfoodbad said:
i dont understand how you guys can agree with workouts over 2 hours...
please explain to me how it is benificial; how is this NOT overtraining?
malkore said:
you said this so...how can you then say that he knows what he is doing when he says his workouts last 1.5-3 hours long sometimes??? He would go into a "cataboic state...very much the wrong thing for building stronger/bigger muscles."
this is where i got the cortisol thing:
and this is what it says:
As far as each individual muscle is concerned, it only needs to be directly hit once per week. Any more and you are not allowing adequate recovery time. Ideally, each workout should last no more than 45 minutes. Why 45? It's because of another bodybuilder's enemy, "Cortisol". Cortisol is a powerful catabolic hormone which is released after about 45 minutes of intense exercise. Cortisol stimulates the break down of muscle tissue for energy. I'm not going to get all scientific on you here, so we'll leave it at that. Now I personally require more rest in between my sets, so my workouts usually last about 1 hour. Anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour is the ideal time frame to complete your workout.
and this is what it says:
As far as each individual muscle is concerned, it only needs to be directly hit once per week. Any more and you are not allowing adequate recovery time. Ideally, each workout should last no more than 45 minutes. Why 45? It's because of another bodybuilder's enemy, "Cortisol". Cortisol is a powerful catabolic hormone which is released after about 45 minutes of intense exercise. Cortisol stimulates the break down of muscle tissue for energy. I'm not going to get all scientific on you here, so we'll leave it at that. Now I personally require more rest in between my sets, so my workouts usually last about 1 hour. Anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour is the ideal time frame to complete your workout.
sorry i didnt catch thatYup, my throwing sessions can last up to 3 hours depending on the number of throwers we have with us that day and the number of events we do.
Kuddos to all those who had my back.
Anyway...
My workouts can last up to 1.5 hours. Cortisol is not one of those things that just automatically happens at the magical 45 minute mark. I'm really bored on the subject of cortisol and I've talked about it in quite a few posts...Proteinboy, you can search those down here if you're interested.
Intensity, rest intervals, length of training experience, and etc have direct relation to cortisol levels for each individual. Also, most of the studies done on individuals related to cortisol were done in a fasted state. If you've eaten a couple hours before you train, you'll still have amino acids floating around. That's kinda' a brief statement on it. As an aside, if you're worried about cortisol-eat 2-4 grams of vitamin C before training.
In terms of strength, you'll find powerlifters and Olympic lifters hit the same muscle group many times through the week and are much stronger pound for pound than your bodybuilders. But then we're in a discussion of the CNS more than anything.
A muscle group does not need 7 days to recover. Recovery needs are dependent upon intensity, training experience, volume, and etc.
Kuddos to all those who had my back.
Anyway...
My workouts can last up to 1.5 hours. Cortisol is not one of those things that just automatically happens at the magical 45 minute mark. I'm really bored on the subject of cortisol and I've talked about it in quite a few posts...Proteinboy, you can search those down here if you're interested.
Intensity, rest intervals, length of training experience, and etc have direct relation to cortisol levels for each individual. Also, most of the studies done on individuals related to cortisol were done in a fasted state. If you've eaten a couple hours before you train, you'll still have amino acids floating around. That's kinda' a brief statement on it. As an aside, if you're worried about cortisol-eat 2-4 grams of vitamin C before training.
In terms of strength, you'll find powerlifters and Olympic lifters hit the same muscle group many times through the week and are much stronger pound for pound than your bodybuilders. But then we're in a discussion of the CNS more than anything.
A muscle group does not need 7 days to recover. Recovery needs are dependent upon intensity, training experience, volume, and etc.
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