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CAN i consume a 2000 calorie or less diet(aka cut diet) and weight train to get the cut results. People say you can't gain muscle with out calories but i mean i will eat around 1700 to 2200 a day and work out. I am 6'2 and 190 and still have a little lower ab gut. I have a 4 pack if you wanna say that. I want to get rid of the fat and skin. I want to be around 200 or 205 all lean muscle. CAN I do that with a 2000 calorie diet? Repeat i do not want to bulk i want to gain cut lean muscle.

BTW i drink a whey protien shake b4 and after work outs only on days that I work out.

My upper body work out consitst of 3 sets of 12 of chest machine, shoulder press, biceps and triceps, with seated rows.
 
This is me as of 3 days ago. I am flexing in this picture tightening my abs and i still have a lil gut. How do i get rid of it
 

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no disrespect mate but you dont have a gut,and the last thing you need to do is cut "judging by piccs"
you have a decent foundation what you need to do is a sensible bulk ie eat above maintanance but not to much above.

stick with basic compound moves you will gain muscle and your core "abs etc" will look 100% better.
 
I do though. I am flexing really hard in those pics. If I lean foreward i have fat and skin that bulges on my lower stomach. I went from 265 to 190 in a year. Idk if its just skin fat or both

Im scared to eat over maintenence because i want to get the 6 pack and build on top of it. I dont want to get fat again.
 
Do more cardio my friend. HIIT and you will get there. Just takes more time and that is the last place you will be losing your fat. Keep going
 
What you don't want to do is keep cutting and getting obsessive about the 'gut'. Sometimes when people lose weight quickly it takes a while for their bodies to lose some of the excess no matter how hard you try. It will just take time. That's all.
 
buzz said:
no disrespect mate but you dont have a gut,and the last thing you need to do is cut "judging by piccs"
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I agree, there's no way you should be cutting. If you want to look skinny with a six pack then go ahead and cut, but I can assure you it isn't a good look. I was a skinny guy with a great six pack for years and women didn't look twice at me on the beach, now I have more or less no six pack but bigger arms, legs, chest and back and I always get glances now.

If you do go ahead and cut then you still need to lift, you probably won't gain any muscle but you'll help prevent muscle loss
 
and to have a really impressive 6pack, you need to have abs. Everyone is very hung up about how diet is key, and that you need a low bodyfat, which is completley true, but lets not forget the importaint fact that a 6pack is muscle, if you dont have the muscle, you will need a lower bodyfat than if you had alot of muscle there. Some skinny people should just bulk up (if your afraid to get fat again, just do it slowly, gain a steady maybe 1-2-3 lbs a month) because they dont have the nessecary muscle to get that impressive cut look.
 
I think imma cut. Thing is I do not want to be really really skinny. I think 200 or 205 is a good weight for me being 6'2" I mite cut more to mabey 175 and hopefully my gut will go. then i can bulk up.

Is it true you cannot gain muscle unless you have a surplus of calories. (I could not gain muscle only eating 2000 a day?
 
ktmrider62 said:
I think imma cut. Thing is I do not want to be really really skinny. I think 200 or 205 is a good weight for me being 6'2" I mite cut more to mabey 175 and hopefully my gut will go. then i can bulk up.

Is it true you cannot gain muscle unless you have a surplus of calories. (I could not gain muscle only eating 2000 a day?
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You can't make something out of nothing. If you are in a caloric deficit, you are burning everything you consume and there's nothing left to build new tissue.
 
ktmrider62 said:
CAN i consume a 2000 calorie or less diet(aka cut diet) and weight train to get the cut results. People say you can't gain muscle with out calories but i mean i will eat around 1700 to 2200 a day and work out. I am 6'2 and 190 and still have a little lower ab gut. I have a 4 pack if you wanna say that. I want to get rid of the fat and skin. I want to be around 200 or 205 all lean muscle. CAN I do that with a 2000 calorie diet? Repeat i do not want to bulk i want to gain cut lean muscle.
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" People say you can't gain muscle with out calories " - they're right.:)

Let's say for argument sake ( judging from your pics ) that you have low body fat....maybe somewhere around 13%+/...most of your weight comes from muscle. You're 190 lbs. now and you want to gain 10 - 15 lbs of lean muscle. If you want to add some serious muscle mass like this you have to eat a lot of calories to fuel that sort of muscle growth. You can't go into a calorie deficit in an effort to lose fat and then seriously expect to gain muscle mass at the same time - it doesn't work that way - you have to fuel muscle growth. Some studies have suggested you need 20 calories per pound of bodyweight just to keep the muscle mass ( i.e not lose muscle ) you have - in your case 190 X 20 = 3,800 calories and to ADD muscle as much as 25 calories per pound of bodyweight ( or more ).

You're eating 1700 to 2200 calories a day - I needn't say more.

ktmrider62 said:
BTW i drink a whey protien shake b4 and after work outs only on days that I work out..
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You can get away with no shakes IMO, but if you must have one, just have one, before or after - not both.

ktmrider62 said:
My upper body work out consitst of 3 sets of 12 of chest machine, shoulder press, biceps and triceps, with seated rows.
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I would add more weight so your failure reps kick in somewhere near 6-8 reps...there is no added benefit of going to 12.

Also, I'd add heavy weight compound leg and back exercises if you're really serious about adding mass - and if it were me - I'd ignore biceps and triceps exercises for now.
 
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