demoralisierendes zur RMR,lol..

klaus

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1200kcal sind allerdings sehr wenig,was meinst du kurt???
könnte das ein grund für das ergebniss sein???


Am J Clin Nutr 1997 Sep;66(3):557-63



Effects of strength or aerobic training on body composition, resting metabolic rate, and peak oxygen consumption in obese dieting subjects.

Geliebter A, Maher MM, Gerace L, Gutin B, Heymsfield SB, Hashim SA
Obesity Research Center, St Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital, Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York, NY 10025, USA. AG658@columbia.edu

Given that resting metabolic rate (RMR) is related largely to the amount of fat-free mass (FFM), the hypothesis was that strength training, which stimulates muscle hypertrophy, would help preserve both FFM and RMR during dieting. In a randomized controlled intervention trial, moderately obese subjects (aged 19-48 y) were assigned to one of three groups: diet plus strength training, diet plus aerobic training, or diet only. Sixty-five subjects (25 men and 40 women) completed the study. They received a formula diet with an energy content of 70% of RMR or 5150 +/- 1070 kJ/d (x +/- SD) during the 8-wk intervention. They were seen weekly for individual nutritional counseling. Subjects in the two exercise groups, designed to be isoenergetic, trained three times per week under supervision. Those in the strength-training group performed progressive weight-resistance exercises for the upper and lower body. Those in the aerobic group performed alternate leg and arm cycling. After 8 wk, the mean amount of weight lost, 9.0 kg, did not differ significantly among groups. The strength-training group, however, lost significantly less FFM (P < 0.05) than the aerobic and diet-only groups. The strength-training group also showed significant increases (P < 0.05) in anthropometrically measured flexed arm muscle mass and grip strength. Mean RMR declined significantly, without differing among groups. Peak oxygen consumption increased the most for the aerobic group (P = 0.03). In conclusion, strength training significantly reduced the loss of FFM during dieting but did not prevent the decline in RMR.

grüsse,klaus
 
es gibt auch ermutigende Studien darüber...

das ist gut möglich. ich kenne aber auch studien, die das gegenteil zeigen, z.b. die von BRYNER et al, J Am Coll Nutr 1999 April;18(2):115-21 (ich hab den abstract schon mindestens einmal im forum präsentiert). die probanden haben nur 800 kcal zugeführt (also wirkich eine VLCD = very low calorie diet) und die krafttrainingsgruppe konnte nicht nur ihre LBM, sondern auch ihre RMR erhalten.
gruss, kurt (der jetzt was essen muss, war vor 3 stunden trainieren und brauch jetzt was :winke:)
 
Re: es gibt auch ermutigende Studien darüber...

ich weiss,hast ja vor kurzem gepostet! aber bin über einge neue papers gestolpert,die in diese richtung weisen,zb:

J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2002 Mar;87(3):1004-9
Effects of endurance and resistance training on total daily energy expenditure in young women: a controlled randomized trial.
Poehlman ET, Denino WF, Beckett T, Kinaman KA, Dionne IJ, Dvorak R, Ades PA
Divisions of Clinical Pharmacology and Metabolic Research and Cardiology, Department of Medicine, University of Vermont, Burlington, Vermont 05405.
[Medline record in process]
There exists considerable controversy regarding the impact of different modes of exercise training on total daily energy expenditure (TEE). To examine this question, young, nonobese women were randomly assigned to a supervised 6-month program of endurance training, resistance training, or control condition. TEE was measured before and 10 d after a 6-month exercise program was completed with doubly labeled water. Body composition was determined from dual energy x-ray absorptiometry, maximum aerobic capacity from a treadmill test to exhaustion, and muscular strength from one-repetition maximum tests. Results showed that body composition did not change in endurance-trained women, but maximum aerobic capacity increased by 18%. Resistance-trained women increased muscular strength and fat-free mass (1.3 kg). TEE did not significantly change when measured subsequent to the endurance or resistance training programs. Absolute resting metabolic rate increased in resistance-trained women but not when adjusted for fat-free mass. No change in physical activity energy expenditure was found in any of the groups. These results suggest that endurance and resistance training does not chronically alter TEE in free-living young women. Thus, the energy-enhancing benefits of exercise training are primarily derived from the direct energy cost of exercise and not from a chronic elevation in daily energy expenditure in young, nonobese women.
 
dasselbe Paper...

...hab ich mir vor einer halben stunde ausgedruckt! :)
aber wir wollen doch unsere weiblichen forumels nicht noch mehr frustrieren, als wir es eh schon getan haben :winke:
 
Re: dasselbe Paper...

seid ihr zwei aber lieb zu uns "weiblichen forumels"!! :winke:
happy we,
doro
 
gö jo! des samma echt!
 
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