why water is so important for weight loss

the best is distilled or purified water. the point is to cleanse your body.

i've read that beverages with "bubbles" are harmful and can cause weight gain. also, you don't want to be adding artificial sweeteners like splenda and aspartame to your body. they can be found in most "diet" food now and have been found in MANY studies to cause cancer. not my idea of working towards a healthy body.

if you want health- go natural.

p.s. to TOMO- that article states a person would have to drink like a gallon of water an hour to harm their bodies. what kind of fool would do that?!?! but i am watching i don't drink more than a gallon a day after reading it, just to be on the safe side. anyway there's no point to all that water unless you enjoy the bathroom so much ;)
 
p.s. to TOMO- that article states a person would have to drink like a gallon of water an hour to harm their bodies. what kind of fool would do that?!?! but i am watching i don't drink more than a gallon a day after reading it, just to be on the safe side. anyway there's no point to all that water unless you enjoy the bathroom so much ;)

Actually, it's becoming a real problem at running events. A lot more people are injuring themselves from water intoxication than from dehydration. And I think part of the reason for that is that people have bought into the idea that we are all walking around dehydrated all the time.
 
Great thread. I can't drink coffee or alcohol so I've always got my Perrier. I agree too much water isn't a good thing either.
 
It's subjective.....

Does drinking soda really make that big of a difference? i mean i love my soda, diet of course, but if the sodium is making me keep A LOT of water in my body, then i would cut back. I just don't really see the evidence that soda makes that big of a difference. You guys have any input?

To some diet sodas are a good way to get over their addictions to sugary drinks and beverages. In such cases I think it is a good thing. However, one thing I always look at is this. Diet sodas still contain salt, coloring, preservatives, this chemical, that chemical and then a few more thrown in for good measure..... Will they do permanent damage over time? I don't know, and diet sodas havent been around long enough to judge yet, but from a purely health standpoint Diet Soda's are still a chemical soup that the body does not truly need. But if it helps kick an addiction to high sugar and high fructose corn syrup drinks, by all means drink away. Just don't get addicted. I have had several friends "literally" addicted to diet sodas. Crazy business....

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Trust your thirst!

A little light reading about human water needs.

Kathleen Zelman, MPH, RD/LD
WebMD Weight Loss Clinic
Reviewed By Charlotte Mathis, MD

Most of us grew up thinking we needed to drink eight glasses of water each day, in addition to any other drinks we might choose. But the latest recommendations say that we no longer need to worry about drinking specific amounts of water. Instead, we can simply satisfy our thirst with any beverage.

"If you follow your thirst, you won't go wrong, says David Perlow, MD, an Atlanta urologist. He notes that pre-modern man never ran around sipping on a water bottle. A dry mouth indicated it was time to run to the stream for a drink."

The New Fluid Guidelines

A 2002 study published in the American Journal of Physiology questioned the old recommendation of 8 ounces of water, eight times a day. After a thorough review, researcher Heinz Valtin concluded there was inadequate evidence that healthy adults -- living in temperate climates and not engaged in rigorous activities -- need large amounts of water.

For normal, healthy adults, Valtin recommended simply drinking when thirsty. And he reported that even caffeinated drinks can count toward satisfying our fluid requirements.

In February 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) issued new recommendations that agree with Valtin's findings. The new guidelines remove the eight-glasses-a-day recommendation, and say healthy adults may use thirst to determine their fluid needs. Exceptions to this rule include anyone with a medical condition requiring fluid control; athletes; and people taking part in prolonged physical activities or whose living conditions are extreme.

How Much Is Enough?

Approximately 80% of our water intake comes from drinking water and other beverages, and the other 20% comes from food. While 20% may seem like a lot of fluid to get from food, many common food items are mostly water. Here are some foods with high water content, according to the American Dietetic Association:

Food Percentage Water
Lettuce (½ cup) 95%
Watermelon (½ cup) 92%
Broccoli (½ cup) 91%
Grapefruit (½ cup) 91%
Milk (1 cup) 89%
Orange juice (¾ cup) 88%
Carrot (½ cup) 87%
Yogurt (1 cup) 85%
Apple (one medium) 84%

When You Need More

Physical activity, heat, and humidity can increase our fluid needs. Illnesses accompanied by increased body temperature, excessive perspiration, vomiting, frequent urination, or diarrhea can also increase our fluid needs. Be sure to drink plenty of liquids if you have one of these conditions, and see a doctor if your fluid losses are excessive or prolonged.

How Much Is Too Much?

"Water intoxication can result in death" says David Perlow, MD, an Atlanta-based urologist.

One recent study of Boston Marathon runners showed that one in three marathon runners was drinking too much water during a race -- probably because they were following recent advice to drink as much as tolerated.

"Trust your thirst instinct to make sure you get enough fluids and, of equal importance, void frequently," suggests Perlow.

Water and Weight Control

For years, drinking water has been recommended for weight loss -- despite the fact that it satisfies thirst and not hunger. Barbara Rolls, PhD, an expert on thirst and satiety, points out that thirst and hunger are regulated by entirely different mechanisms.

A recent study by Rolls and colleagues at Penn State University looked at whether people who drank water with lunch took in fewer calories than those who drank other low-calorie beverages. They found that drinking water had little effect on total calorie consumption at the meal.

"In all of our research, we have never been able to show that water can cause weight loss," says Rolls. The only way drinking water can help you lose weight is if you substitute it for higher-calorie beverages or foods, she explains.

However, eating foods with high water content can help dieters, by increasing the fullness factor. "When you add water to a bowl of vegetables as in soup, the soup has greater satiety than when the vegetables are eaten alone with a glass of water," explains Rolls, author of The Volumetrics Eating Plan and The Volumetrics Weight Control Plan. "When water is incorporated into food or shakes, satiety is increased and subjects ultimately eat less food."

A soon-to-be-published study by Rolls and colleagues shows that a high-volume eating plan resulted in more weight loss than a low-fat eating plan.

If you want to lose weight, Rolls recommends an eating plan that includes plenty of high-volume foods such as fruits, vegetables, broth-based soups, and oatmeal, along with adequate fluids to satisfy your thirst.

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SOURCES: American Journal of Physiology, Aug. 8, 2002. Appetite, April 2005. News release, Institute of Medicine, Feb.11, 2004. American Dietetic Association web site. David Perlow, MD, urologist, Atlanta. Barbara Rolls, PhD, author, The Volumetrics Weight-Control Plan and The Volumetrics Eating Plan; and professor, nutritional sciences, Pennsylvania State University, State College, Pa. WebMD news article: "Marathon Runners Drink Too Much."
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MYTHBUSTERS, Discovery Channel:
"While it's a good idea to drink plenty of water, there is no scientific or medical basis for the specific amount of eight glasses per day. Water intake needs vary from person to person, depending on age, size and amount of physical activity. We can also get water from food and other beverages, so we don't necessarily need to get all of our fluids in the form of drinking water."

This is from ClassBrain.com:
"The "8 by 8" rule comes from a report that was created in 1945, what they didn't tell us all these years is that the water that we consume in our food is included in the total, which means that the average person only needs to drink about four glasses of water a day. You can rest easy that you're actually drinking the correct amount of water for a healthy lifestyle."

From RealAge.com:
"And, contrary to popular belief, there is no evidence to suggest that drinking eight 8-ounce glasses of water each day will make you healthier. How much water you need depends on many factors, including your body size, how active you are, your age, and your
diet.


FURTHER READING:

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coke is a sugarey syrup, not an acid.

check out the snopes site (goof for dispelling urban legends)

If you read this webpage carefully you will see that the writer(s) is/are obviously biased towards Coca-Cola. Specifically their statement that Coca-Cola cannot cause harm to your health is false. I used to drink Diet Cola every day, with every meal, including toast for breakfast. I ended up with a duodenal ulcer that took 1-2 years to heal and now I still don't eat spices and some types of vegetables, or drink alcohol and coffee.

A simple test to perform: Start drinking a glass of water and see how long you can go before you have to stop (not including for breathing). Repeat this experiment with a glass of Coke. Aaaaaoooooooowwwwhhhh! :eek:
 
Please read this article before you drink massive amounts of water. Yes, water is necessary, but the idea that the vast majority of people are walking around dehydrated is poppycock. Also, the idea that the water in all the food you eat, as well as the other things you drink, doesn't count is also wrong. The proponents of this myth also dramatically exaggerate the diuretic effects of coffee.

Absolutely! God gave us thirst for a reason. That you should drink before you get thirsty is only true in the marathon world, where water is lost so fast that the thirst mechanism can't keep up.
 
"That you should drink before you get thirsty is only true in the marathon world, where water is lost so fast that the thirst mechanism can't keep up."
FALSE.
Please see WebMD article entitled "Marathon Runners Drink Too Much".
 
Thanks for pointing that out, notblushing. As I wrote earlier, it tends to be the novice marathoners who make that assumption, not the pros.

It was interesting to see that Dr. Oz on Oprah Monday also debunked the "drink water all the time" garbage. He reminded the audience that most food has lots of water. He did say that drinking water might help people with weight if it gave them a sense of fullness that would keep them from eating, but there is NO medical need to drink 8 glasses of water a day.

I was glad to hear this on Oprah because her show used to promulgate this myth.
 
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