Facts
Oh, good. We’re beginning to develop some common ground, here.
Probably not. You might have to lower yourself a few more notches to my level.
You keep bringing up Charles Atlas. I have nothing to do with Charles Atlas, and however he may have developed his awesome physique doesn’t really matter to me. If “Dynamic Tension” is a term that could be applied to my system, then so be it.
You’ve said one thing here that I can agree with, “But then again, it all depends on your goals.” Precisely. There are a lot of people out there who have no desire to build chests or arms that stretch from one side of a room to the other. They would just like to build a muscular, aesthetic physique. There are a lot of people who have neither the time nor the desire to enroll in a gym, or to devote time to grueling, iron-pumping exercises. My system provides a viable alternative to weights and will add muscle to a person’s frame. No, it will not build the kind of size produced by lifting weights. But, again, that, for a lot of people, isn’t their goal.
Self-Resistance exercise can stand alone as a method. You realize, I assume, since you read everything, that my system isn’t limited to Isometrics. I’ve made Isotonics the mainstay of my system. Surprisingly, my greatest priority is myself, and if this system of exercise wasn’t producing the kind of results I was looking for, I would have dropped it like a hot potato. To my great surprise, it worked better than I had expected it would. I was willing to compromise some size and muscularity in exchange for a system of exercise that wasn’t as taxing and time-consuming as weight lifting. But in the end, I didn’t compromise a thing. The only reason I am now lifting weights instead of using my system is because I enjoy lifting weights. Oh, right. This is all anecdotal.
I gotta disagree with you on this one. Bob Lipinski is a well known and respected figure in the strength world, and to have him validate my system means a lot. Authoratative endorsement is appreciated and referred to in all endeavors – businesses, marketing, etc. I’ll assume you are relatively well known among certain circles. How’d you feel if someone stated that jpfitness has praised my flotsergizmo, and someone comes along and says, “Who? jpfitness? Well, that doesn’t mean squat.”
As a matter of fact, you consistently pooh-pooh self-resistance as an effective system of exercise. You do so as though your opinion is an indisputable fact, in conflict with the opinions of thousands of others who practice self-resistance, and therefore, you are speaking authoritatively. So, all that you’ve stated concerning "fallacious appeal to authority", can also apply to you.
BTW, to say that Bob Lipinski sat bolt upright and enthusiastically praised my system as the greatest thing since sliced bread would be misleading. We did, in fact, have some conversations about my site, he thought it was all pretty cool, and he gave me an exercise to add to it.
What “fact and research”? I never conferred with Phd’s, and I didn’t study volumes of physiology. I have a working knowledge of exercise, and the only “fact” I can stand by is the fact that I, personally, benefited greatly from my system. The only other “facts” I have are all the letters I have received. What "facts and research" have you produced? I don't recall you referring anyone to Bob's Book of Irrefutable Facts, Vol. lll, where it clearly states that proponents of self resistance exercise are full of crap.
In fact, in the early stages of my website, I wanted to document the effectiveness of my program. I couldn’t use myself because I was already pretty maxed out in size when I started. I had gathered together about a half dozen volunteers who were going to keep an ongoing log on my site and submit photos. Unfortunately, not one of them stuck with the program. They were all students who decided they had greater priorities. Not only that, but they were starving students. At any rate, I did get a month or more out of each of them, so I can at least show what my system accomplished within certain time frames. Here are a couple of logs that I saved. Darn it! There was one kid in particular who made some great gains, but I must have deleted his log. Oops! That would probably be referred to in “logical syllogism” as the “Fish that got away.” Anyway……..
And where the hell is Siava?! He's the one who started all of this!
Oh, good. We’re beginning to develop some common ground, here.
jpfitness said:I guess I am not communicating very clearly.
Probably not. You might have to lower yourself a few more notches to my level.
You keep bringing up Charles Atlas. I have nothing to do with Charles Atlas, and however he may have developed his awesome physique doesn’t really matter to me. If “Dynamic Tension” is a term that could be applied to my system, then so be it.
jpfitness said:There is a place for SR exercises, but by themselves it is like only golfing with an 9 iron. Sometimes you need a driver, sometimes a putter, etc. It is one of many tools to be used in a greater picture, but not a method that should stand alone. But then again, it all depends on your goals. If your goal is to have a well-balanced, muscular and lean body, then I would say that it is not optimal to use exclusively.
You’ve said one thing here that I can agree with, “But then again, it all depends on your goals.” Precisely. There are a lot of people out there who have no desire to build chests or arms that stretch from one side of a room to the other. They would just like to build a muscular, aesthetic physique. There are a lot of people who have neither the time nor the desire to enroll in a gym, or to devote time to grueling, iron-pumping exercises. My system provides a viable alternative to weights and will add muscle to a person’s frame. No, it will not build the kind of size produced by lifting weights. But, again, that, for a lot of people, isn’t their goal.
jpfitness said:but not a method that should stand alone.
Self-Resistance exercise can stand alone as a method. You realize, I assume, since you read everything, that my system isn’t limited to Isometrics. I’ve made Isotonics the mainstay of my system. Surprisingly, my greatest priority is myself, and if this system of exercise wasn’t producing the kind of results I was looking for, I would have dropped it like a hot potato. To my great surprise, it worked better than I had expected it would. I was willing to compromise some size and muscularity in exchange for a system of exercise that wasn’t as taxing and time-consuming as weight lifting. But in the end, I didn’t compromise a thing. The only reason I am now lifting weights instead of using my system is because I enjoy lifting weights. Oh, right. This is all anecdotal.
jpfitness said:To refer to a person to give your program validity is yet another logical syllogism. This one is called a "fallacious appeal to authority."
I gotta disagree with you on this one. Bob Lipinski is a well known and respected figure in the strength world, and to have him validate my system means a lot. Authoratative endorsement is appreciated and referred to in all endeavors – businesses, marketing, etc. I’ll assume you are relatively well known among certain circles. How’d you feel if someone stated that jpfitness has praised my flotsergizmo, and someone comes along and says, “Who? jpfitness? Well, that doesn’t mean squat.”
As a matter of fact, you consistently pooh-pooh self-resistance as an effective system of exercise. You do so as though your opinion is an indisputable fact, in conflict with the opinions of thousands of others who practice self-resistance, and therefore, you are speaking authoritatively. So, all that you’ve stated concerning "fallacious appeal to authority", can also apply to you.
BTW, to say that Bob Lipinski sat bolt upright and enthusiastically praised my system as the greatest thing since sliced bread would be misleading. We did, in fact, have some conversations about my site, he thought it was all pretty cool, and he gave me an exercise to add to it.
jpfitness said:I would prefer that if we are to debate at all that we do it on a level playing field where we are all using fact and research to back our claims
What “fact and research”? I never conferred with Phd’s, and I didn’t study volumes of physiology. I have a working knowledge of exercise, and the only “fact” I can stand by is the fact that I, personally, benefited greatly from my system. The only other “facts” I have are all the letters I have received. What "facts and research" have you produced? I don't recall you referring anyone to Bob's Book of Irrefutable Facts, Vol. lll, where it clearly states that proponents of self resistance exercise are full of crap.
In fact, in the early stages of my website, I wanted to document the effectiveness of my program. I couldn’t use myself because I was already pretty maxed out in size when I started. I had gathered together about a half dozen volunteers who were going to keep an ongoing log on my site and submit photos. Unfortunately, not one of them stuck with the program. They were all students who decided they had greater priorities. Not only that, but they were starving students. At any rate, I did get a month or more out of each of them, so I can at least show what my system accomplished within certain time frames. Here are a couple of logs that I saved. Darn it! There was one kid in particular who made some great gains, but I must have deleted his log. Oops! That would probably be referred to in “logical syllogism” as the “Fish that got away.” Anyway……..
And where the hell is Siava?! He's the one who started all of this!