True test of strength

clean and jerk

but true strength is in humility. Seeing I am the most humble person on the planet! NO, MOST HUMBLE in the universe. I WIN!
 
I vote deadlift because I believe it to be one of the most deep-seeded functional lifts. Mankind has been performing deadlifts for survival since we lived in caves and had big ass foreheads (homo neanderthalis. Pulling a huge ass rock and picking it up to carry to the resting grounds, it was a must. Picking up that huge slab or freshly killed meat, was a must.

Once again, I posted, and then read the thread...
hahhahaah OMG! MMM is as dramaitc as me.

"mankind has been performing.... LOL!!!!!:rofl:

yer so cool! :beerchug:

"ever since Eve chunked it with the apple.................." hahahahaha
 
OK, let me put it this way. In a perfect world somebody walked up and noticed you where big/fit....what would they ask? It sure wouldn't be "how much do you bench"(that kind of question though)
 
All responses are pretty good.

But they all become null and void without strength of charactor that has two powerful components to ensure one gets stronger through repeating the process enough to gain individual strength. And this is a continued application of: Persistence and Consistency. Coupled with Self-discipline.


The ultimate inner struggle that can produce the strength to carry out the external functions of strength.


Case closed. :) :p



Best wishes,

Chillen
 
I think the thinking is completely faulty. So if someone weighs 300 pounds and can deadlift 200 pounds, then lose weight, but not gaining weight on their dead - they're getting stronger? I simply disagree.

So if someone is a nasty scrawny 100 pounds, and they can push out 100 pound bench, but someone is a built solid 210 and can only push a 200 pound bench press - the scrawny nasty guy is stronger?

I don't buy it. It sounds like an excuse to not train hard enough.

agreed. Sure, relative strength has it's merits, but when we are talking strength (not mental or character strength, mind you) it's who can lift the most in a certain lift.

Just a short rant:
I'm sick of relative strength people. If you're chopping down a tree and it falls on you, would you want a 100 lbs guy deadlifting 200 or a 200 lbs guy deadlifting 400 to help you loose?
 
I don't buy it. It sounds like an excuse to not train hard enough.

Too true

Just a short rant:
I'm sick of relative strength people. If you're chopping down a tree and it falls on you, would you want a 100 lbs guy deadlifting 200 or a 200 lbs guy deadlifting 400 to help you loose?

Why not remove the co-efficent scores from the lifting charts? Who gives a damn about relative strength anyway? It's just an excuse for not being dedicated enough to gain real muscle
 
I do agree that strength alone is the most important aspect, i.e. how much you can actually lift, regardless of body size, but it is kinda cool when a smaller lifter can push out some crazy numbers.
 
how far one an shoot their urine stream is a good measure eh? hahhaha

I love it when you all start getting serious about this sort of thing. And if I may make one comment,,, many times the strength of typing is often in direct proportion to the lack of time spent in physical conditioning....

just an observation

carry on
:argue:

hahahahahahaha
what an aaassss eh!
 
Bench Press
Squat
Clean & Jerk
Snatch
Deadlift


None of the above. You can't definitively say that one lift is a true test of strength. All of those lifts are using different parts of the body and some of them are a combination of 2 or more of the ones you have listed. the squats vs. bench press argument you spoke of is a pointless one too...If some douchebag said that to me, the first thing i'd point out is that they are two completely different lifts and use different parts of the body...It's like the comparing apples to oranges theory.
 
OMG Bigtom that avatar is ****ing killing me LOL

So since I'm a big rank ****y and can only deadlift 160 thus far but I can smash cinderblocks into powder with either palm strike, knife hand strike, side kick, front kick etc. Does that make me a weak frail man?

ps I could prolly deadlift more if I really tried but I tried doing 200 and cashed out my lower back something fierce. So I'm taking it easy for the time being.
I'm sure it was poor form on my part.
 
None of the above. You can't definitively say that one lift is a true test of strength. All of those lifts are using different parts of the body and some of them are a combination of 2 or more of the ones you have listed. the squats vs. bench press argument you spoke of is a pointless one too...If some douchebag said that to me, the first thing i'd point out is that they are two completely different lifts and use different parts of the body...It's like the comparing apples to oranges theory.

Respected strength coaches would differ if you spoke to them. Here is strength coach Mark Rippetoe explaining how to do the
 
Too true



Why not remove the co-efficent scores from the lifting charts? Who gives a damn about relative strength anyway? It's just an excuse for not being dedicated enough to gain real muscle

because it does matter to some extent, and if someone wants to be small and strong, that's their thing and they should be allowed. Some people want to be in lower weight classes etc. Someone who wants to stay at 200 lbs probably won't DL as much as those who stay at 400. etc. The co efficient isn't there to be the lead thing to look at, it's just there to let people know how heavy the people who have lifted are, instead of making it all complicated with weight classes. (now that I think about it, weight classes in the charts would be cool.. that would make you see how you would do in a real PL comp, so to speak..)
 
^^^ What Karky said...

And I sure as hell give a damn about relative strength.

IMO it determines how efficient you are with your body. And IMO it is better to be small and powerful than to be big and powerful...therefore I look for a good coefficient in my lifts.


My 2 cents.


Eric
 
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