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'Aliens will eat the fatties first': Gym sparks outrage with new advertising campaign

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An advert for one of Britain’s biggest gyms has sparked outrage by declaring: ‘When the aliens come, they will eat the fatties first.’
The campaign, featuring a little green man, was meant to encourage people to join up and shed pounds put on over Christmas.

But instead slimmers have branded the ad in offensive and weight loss experts said the ‘negative message’ is more likely to drive people away.

'Offensive': The ad for Cadbury Gym, Bristol, was intended to encourage slimmers

Signs put up near the health club and spa at Cadbury House Hotel in Congresbury, Bristol, read: ‘Advance health warning! When the aliens come, they will eat the fatties first.’

However, mother-of-two Vicky Palmer, who suffered from an eating disorder as a teenager, believes the sign should be removed immediately.

Mrs Palmer, 45, of Churchill, Somerset, said: ‘I would like to think that their hotline is very “hot” with people phoning to complain about this degrading and offensive advertising.

‘I am not overweight yet I still find this extremely offensive and patronising but how much more so to someone genuinely overweight?

‘People who have a weight problem may also suffer with low self esteem and this advert is not going to help them in any way.

‘The people who came up with this idea and sanctioned the advert need a good, stiff kick up the backside, and if that backside is a rather bony one, then they will feel this all the more.’

The health club and spa is attached to the 72-bedroom Cadbury House Hotel, which is part of the prestigious Hilton Doubletree chain.

However, the centre, which boasts two gym studios, a spa, salon, bistro and won European Club of the Year in 2007, is managed separately to the hotel.

Gym manager Jason Eaton stands beside one of the roadside signs

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The club, which is one of the largest independent health clubs in the UK, has two purpose-built studios along with a spa, salon and bistro.

It employs a team of personal trainers and offers more than 100 fitness classes each week.

Health club bosses claim they launched their advertising campaign last week in an attempt to persuade people to shape up after Christmas.

But a spokesman for the Beat Eating Disorders association believes the ‘negative message’ will not work on potential customers.

He said: ‘This is a very unfortunate choice of words. People get fit and healthy when they are positively motivated and are unlikely to respond to such a negative message.

‘Perhaps the gym should reconsider their approach.’

Local resident Alison Winter added: ‘I am shocked and disgusted that they feel they have the right to blatantly discriminate like this.’

But club manager Jason Eaton defended his campaign as a ‘fun’ way to approach the subject of obesity.

He said: ‘The alien campaign has been developed as a tongue in cheek look at the fact that people generally, over the Christmas period, do put on a little weight.

‘Our view is that people should not feel stigmatised by the use of the word “fatties” as it encompasses everyone who might have over-indulged during the holidays and now wants to do something about it.

‘At the club we are doing all we can to combat the problems of obesity and our advertising has to get the message over in a forthright but fun way.

‘We do not intend to cause any offence to anyone.’
 
I personally think it's funny, but could see how someone could be offended.

And what do they mean by "genuinely overweight?" You either are or you aren't.
 
Mrs Palmer and Ms Winter: get over it. You are fatties, now deal with it. I don't see a negative message. People don't really think they will be eaten by aliens, do they?
 
Hmmm.....I wonder what would happen if the sign was hanging outside a special needs school, saying 'When the Aliens come, they will eat the mongoloids first'? Or outside a catholic church in Ireland, saying 'When the Aliens come, they'll eat the Protestants first'??

Would that be okay?

Discrimination comes in many forms. This is no different.
 
Yeha, it kind of pisses me off seeing that, given the increasingly apparent climate of near demonizing anyone not stick thin. Fatty is also generally a deragatory word usage, yeah good way to gain customers.
 
Hmmm.....I wonder what would happen if the sign was hanging outside a special needs school, saying 'When the Aliens come, they will eat the mongoloids first'? Or outside a catholic church in Ireland, saying 'When the Aliens come, they'll eat the Protestants first'??

Would that be okay?

Discrimination comes in many forms. This is no different.
Yes, it's different. Mongoloids are merely unfortunate people who cannot help their situation, so it wouldn't make sense to try to get them to change from being mongoloids. Protestants are protestants by choice, so it would be rude to suggest that they should change. Not many want to stay fat, so it makes perfect sense to suggest that fat people lose weight, nor should they have reason to object to such a suggestion.

I'm not so fat now, but I was not so long ago. Yes, I was a fatty. People who called me a fatty were correct. Why would I complain about that?
 
The last thing you want to do when you advertise is piss off your potential customers! I can't imagine this will be good for business for that gym
 
Yes, it's different. Mongoloids are merely unfortunate people who cannot help their situation, so it wouldn't make sense to try to get them to change from being mongoloids. Protestants are protestants by choice, so it would be rude to suggest that they should change. Not many want to stay fat, so it makes perfect sense to suggest that fat people lose weight, nor should they have reason to object to such a suggestion.

I'm not so fat now, but I was not so long ago. Yes, I was a fatty. People who called me a fatty were correct. Why would I complain about that?

I don't think it's different at all, and the two examples I picked were just that, examples. I could have picked anything.

There are enough people who don't mind being overweight, are overweight for medical reasons, are trying to lose weight and aren't as successful as they would like to be for one reason or the other. Besides, it doesn't matter what YOU think, it doesn't matter what the person in question thinks, calling somebody a 'fatty' is rude, derogatory, and also discriminating.

According to you, it's perfectly okay to discriminate somebody because of their body weight and state of fitness, but not because of a disability or choice of their religion? Interesting.
 
According to you, it's perfectly okay to discriminate somebody because of their body weight and state of fitness, but not because of a disability or choice of their religion? Interesting.
I don't really see any discrimination. It's just an advertisement. As I said, get over it.
 
I'd just throw the whole free speech thing in here and state that my opinion is that it is offensive speech that needs to be protected, not nice speech.

So.. while it is nice and understandable with arguments that invoke emotional responses and makes us feel sorry... I really couldn't care less about what someone says in their advertisement unless they are flat out lying.

I can however empathize with anyone feeling offended, but thats not the same thing as saying that the gym doesn't have the right to hire a semi retarded ad agency (or a quite balsy one depending on the target group).

edit: just to clarify, i also, as a person suffering from a social fobia and clinical depression, defend anyones right to say stuff like "depression is just weak pathetic peoples excuse for being fatty lazy loosers that should die"... i think someone who says that is a complete idiot and... i would probably dream of not being social-fobic so that I could just tell him but well yeah..
 
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I don't really see any discrimination. It's just an advertisement. As I said, get over it.

So, next time somebody makes any negative comment about another person, based on their gender, sexuality, religious views, colour of skin, political views, race or disability, I'll just tell them to get over it. Nice.

Ridiculous really, but oh well.
 
So, next time somebody makes any negative comment about another person, based on their gender, sexuality, religious views, colour of skin, political views, race or disability, I'll just tell them to get over it. Nice.

Ridiculous really, but oh well.

i don't recall him saying any of those things... just saying it's ok when talking about people who screw themselves up like fatties do. get over it.

since you're all talking about examples, the one I see as relevant here (unlike all yours which are bs) would be to change the wording to reflect smokers. ie when the aliens come, they'll experiment on the lung cancer patients first. there is no discrimination here, stop being so PC...
 
i don't recall him saying any of those things... just saying it's ok when talking about people who screw themselves up like fatties do. get over it.

since you're all talking about examples, the one I see as relevant here (unlike all yours which are bs) would be to change the wording to reflect smokers. ie when the aliens come, they'll experiment on the lung cancer patients first. there is no discrimination here, stop being so PC...

I'd appreciate if you could chose your words more carefully. I do not appreciate anything I say being called 'bs' just because you don't agree with it. I am sure other people don't, either.

And you're missing the point. But that seems to be the rule of this thread, so I think this 'discussion' is rather pointless.
 
Personally, I don't find the ad offensive at all. But, I do understand why someone would become offended by it.

However, regardless of how offensive something is, I will always stand by freedom of speech in every, single example. Everyone has a right to say whatever they want ... even if that includes making themselves look like a douchebag in the process (which a lot of people do). People have somehow gotten it into their minds that the right to "not have to experience anything offensive" is a natural human right, ... but it isn't, and it can't be. Basing what people can and cannot say on something subjective like how offensive it will be is a slippery slope which will only encourage unnecessary and unfair censorship. I believe this is the point that the counterargument is trying to make here.

I myself read the ad originally in the way that I'm sure the advertisers imagined it up: I thought it was funny and clever. I do however know that there are people who will not look at it that way (and probably quite a few of them) so in that sense it is just bad advertising.

Discriminatory speech is still speech, and I will defend someone's right to say it. It is our job as individuals and parents to be able to sort through everything that we hear and read and process what is valuable and what is garbage, but censoring that information based on someone's comfort level is downright dangerous. The real difference that can be made is by teaching our children, friends and loved ones to choose to prioritize the feelings of others instead of just saying whatever pops into their heads.
 
My momma used to tell me "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me." I don't think they look at it that way on the other side of the pond, though.
 
Interesting thing about free speech, people who claim it also seem to assume that it is also a shield from anyone else voicing their opinions of what was said. Free speech is a two way street. Basically, just because you can say it doesn't prevent me from saying I think it's stupid, arrogant, not well thought out or otherwise. I'd imagine making suggestions falls under the same deal.
 
Interesting ad..probably not the greatest idea from a business point of view though.

Speaking of which..I saw Zombieland not too long ago. Rule number 1: Cardio!
 
There are enough people who don't mind being overweight, are overweight for medical reasons, are trying to lose weight and aren't as successful as they would like to be for one reason or the other.

Hun... in my opinion there is only one possible cause for being overweight... if you eat more than you burn... it's not more technical than that... yes, some may have slower metabolism etc... but then you need to adjust your food intake accordingly... or exercise more... if WE are fat then it's our own fault and we need to get over ourselves...

Personally I think the ad is really funny!
 
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