Guys this is such a great site. I have been lurking for about 9 months now and have started to want to post. I was wondering if you think I should cut now? I have been lifting since Feburary 07...I think it time to cut. Im 6'3 215lbs.
Should I cut??
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Thanks for the responses! Yes LV, I would like to be bigger. I feel fat...but i may continue bulking. Why would you not cut? just wondering....
Yes, you have some lean mass on you now but IMO you are lean enough to start a nice clean bulk to put on some more lean mass. There is really no reason to cut at this point unless you plan on competing or something along those lines. Don't get me wrong, I've cut when i was at your size just to satisfy my own wants however if I knew back then what I know now, and my goal was to be bigger, I would have def packed on more muscle before I cut.
Trust me, it makes all that hard work show off even more at the end of a cut, when you have a ton of muscle on you.
At least that is what I would do, if I were you, and my goal was to be bigger.
Trust me, it makes all that hard work show off even more at the end of a cut, when you have a ton of muscle on you.
At least that is what I would do, if I were you, and my goal was to be bigger.
Ok LV, I totally trust you. I will continue to bulk up. Just a side note, since august 15th I gained about 10lbs, would that be considered a 'slow' bulk(too slow?!?)? Or should I try to add more mass quicker?
10 pounds in 20 weeks, i'd say that's about perfect bro.
Update. 235lbs, I bulked up by about 20lbs over the last 6 months...let me know what you think.
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I can see I put on fat as well, but I def put on muscle, as I can bench about 240lbs now...as compared to 200lbs.
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I think so, yes.
any other thoughts?
Bulk up 5 more pounds so you can say "I was 240" =] then start a nice cut, currently im cutting I think I hit about 240 before I started down to 230 now
Lol, I was 300 before, so 240 isnt a milestone 
But I know what you mean
But I know what you mean I can't help but think that the advice you are getting from these boards are just making you fat. When you "Cut" now, or whatever, you will create a deficiency in calories which will in turn slow down your metabolism even more and can cause you to actually gain weight..
I would probably suggest only putting on lean muscle mass without all the fat, and doing cardio several times a week. Regardless of what a lot of bulkers say, cardio is not "the enemy of muscles" unless you do
1. ridiculous amounts (more than 45 minutes+ of intense aerobic a day)
2. Don't have a proper diet
I promise you, you won't turn into a bean pole by incorporating (much needed) cardiovascular excercises.. You were in a better position before because you could have started to slim down while maintaining the muscle mass you had. The muscle you gained is either very minimal or distracted by the new gut.
Bulking then cutting is not the only way to get your dream body and I swear you can do it without gaining a ton of fat and stunting your metabolism when you suddenly stop the crazy calorie intake...
I would probably suggest only putting on lean muscle mass without all the fat, and doing cardio several times a week. Regardless of what a lot of bulkers say, cardio is not "the enemy of muscles" unless you do
1. ridiculous amounts (more than 45 minutes+ of intense aerobic a day)
2. Don't have a proper diet
I promise you, you won't turn into a bean pole by incorporating (much needed) cardiovascular excercises.. You were in a better position before because you could have started to slim down while maintaining the muscle mass you had. The muscle you gained is either very minimal or distracted by the new gut.
Bulking then cutting is not the only way to get your dream body and I swear you can do it without gaining a ton of fat and stunting your metabolism when you suddenly stop the crazy calorie intake...
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That new from what I've been hearing. Interesting, thanks!
THis is ridiculous?!
If we were to take your word for it, then any time you create deficiency in calories you would instead be gaining weight instead of losing weight. That's not true, and simply stupid when you think about it. Just because your metabolism drops a little, does not mean that you will immediately put on massive amounts of fat. Besides, metabolism is not controled strictly on a diet. Training has a large deal of influence in it.
a clean bulk that you are suggesting would take much longer than a bulk and cut cycle.
Truth of it is, IWasFatBefore, I think you look like you have alot of muscle under your fat. You will not begin to gain weight when you start a cut, I think that losing weight now would be a good option because in my opinion you have bulked up enough.
It is important to remmeber that you do not simply jump into the cut. You must allow for a couple weeks of slowly tapering down your diet to maintenance, and the starting the deficit.
This whole "cutting now will cause you to actually gain weight" bull **** is stupid. Even if you did simply jump right into cutting (and I am assuming you will continue weight training), the adverse effect would not cause you to gain more weight but to lose mroe muslce in the process of your cut.
When he cuts his metabolism might slow down a bit, it is not a lot though, as long as he stays below his maintenance he will lose weight, most of it being fat. Hiw metabolism will stabilize at a slightly lower level, it is not like it will keep falling until it hits 0.
It is not dangeoraus to do cardio while bulking, however, it is not necessary for minimizing fat gain, either. If you've got any proof of this, please post up!
If you eat for example 500cals above maintenance, you will gain 500cals of tissue that day. How much of that is muscle and how much is fat will predominantly be determined by your training (muscle training) and diet. If you go for a run, you might cut those 500 above maintenance down to 300.
You are now gaining less weight than before. IF of the 500 cals the guy was gaining 300 was muscle and 200 was fat, then you would have reduced the fat gain, however, this could also have been done by just not eating such a large deflict, you could have cut 200cals from the diet instead of by exercise.
Catch my drift?
I think its simply stupid to think you have to put on fat in order to gain muscle, when you think about it.
The trick is to eat a LOT and train with cardio A LOT. That is how you gain lean mass without fat. You guys tend to just make people fat with NEGLECT of cardiovascular. There is more than one way to train and your Bulking + Cutting is popular but not the best of the ways to sculpt a muscular, defined body. Its not "bull****," many people make the mistake of suddenly stopping calorie intake, and many other people have genes that do not support your "easy method." My suggestion is to incorporate cardio into the regiment to decrease fat gains.
Thank you,
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