Possible Head Injury While Working Out?

If anybody can respond to this, especially those in the medical field, it would be more than appreciated.


Yesterday, I was doing my powerlifting routine at the school weight room. I got through everything just about and was on my last exercise. The exercise I was doing was some pinch grip work. Basically, you take a DB and grip it with your fingers for a certain amount of time. On the workout that the coach put out, pinch grip work was to be done 3x45 seconds. I got through my first 2 sets fine. I had a 25lb. DB in each hand when on my last set. After about 30-35 seconds, I felt like it was really going to fall, so I wanted to get the last few seconds in so I held on as best I could. Well, after a little while, I felt like I got hit in the back of the head, and dropped the weights. I felt a little weird, half like I was going to pass out. I slowly walked out of the weight room and into the lockeroom. I laid down on the bench for about 10 minutes with my eyes closed. The back of my head to the left was throbbing. I think I might have held my breath for a couple seconds to long.-Rookie mistake, I know.

Around a half hour after it happened and I didn't do anything the pain faded away. About 10 minutes later, I didn't feel anything and thought that I was alright. So I changed my shoes and did some treadmill. About 3 minutes on 3, 10 minutes on 7, and 3 minutes on 3 again. I felt fine doing the running, my head didn't really hurt.

Fast forward to today. I went into the weight room, did some stretching and stuff. I wasn't even thinking about what happened the day before. I started the workout fine. I did "Speed Pulls Against Mini 50-60%" which are basically speed deadlifts with 2 small elastic bands holding it to the ground. I did 8x1 @ 135. The weight wasn't too much, in fact I could have done more. Didn't feel anything in my head.

Then, the next 2 things on the workout I had to skip, because I'm the only sophmore in there. There are like 15 seniors and 2 or 3 juniors. All big, tough powerlifters, so they do large amounts of weights and they were taking up the spots for the 2 exercises. So I moved onto the reverse grip lat pulldowns. It was 4x8. So the first set I did it @ 75. Didn't feel anything in my head, and the weights were pretty easy. So the next set I moved the weight up to 95. I did about 3 or 4 of them before the back left side of my head started pounding again. I ended up not finishing my set, or the rest of my workout. I didn't want to risk it if I have possible injury.

After about 40 minutes or so, the headache faded away again. Now, I don't have powerlifting again until Monday (this whole week is vacation). I was wondering if I should just use these next 3 days for rest and see how it is Monday.

My next questions are, if you think it is a head injury or anthing that can do some damage...if I go to the hospital-what tests would they do on me? and do you think it would be expensive.

It feels like a regular headache right now, but when I lift heavy weights, like I did in the weight room, it feels really really painful. The first time it happened I felt like I was going to pass out. Today, I sort of felt the same way, like I was going to pass out.

I mean, it's a little embarressing that I hurt myself doing pinch grip work instead of squats or deads or something, but thats what happened =/. Thanks for reading this, those that did. If anybody has any advice or comments, it would be more than appreciated. Thanks.

-Mike
 
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Hmmm...

to be honest I dont know.

It could be lack of oxygen... thats usually what makes people pass out when exercising. But it sounds like you could have popped a blood vessle in your head. To be honest, My medical training is limited to first aid and basic "gym injurys".

I cant really tell you what to do about this as its somthing Ive not come accross before. i would wait till next week and have a good rest, then see if it happens again. If it does then get someone to take you to a hospital right away. but If it was really really painfull last time, maybe you should go now.
 
Thanks for responding Russ.

I don't think it is bad enough to go to the hospital right now. I was thinking about doing some exercises with higher reps...but now thinking about it, I am going to not do anything that requires strain or even work out until Monday.

It was bad enough for me to stop mid-set and kind of wander to the lockeroom.

Believe it or not, when I told my mom about it after I got home, she actually somewhat laughed at me...kind of snickered. I couldn't believe it, she used to be an X-Ray tech. I was being completely serious with her too. She said I shouldn't have laid down in the lockeroom without having somebody check on me because I could have had an annurism (sp?) or something like that.

I'll take the next few days off, and if it happens again Monday, I'll go to the hospital to make sure it isn't something serious.

If it is a popped blood vessel or something, do you think there will be any kind of effect? Besides feeling like I'm going to pass out when lifting heavy, like swelling on the brain or anything like that?
 
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This is an in interesting one. I don't know so much as that I'd go to the hospital as maybe call your family doctor. Rest the next 3 days.
 
Your moms right. If ever you feel faint you should never lay down on your own.
1 - tell someone that you think you might pass out, even if there is no1 around that you know, make sure someone knows. maybe askthem to check on you in 2mins.
2 - Dont laydown somewhere cold like a tiled floor. If you do pass out you could get die of hypothermia, and I'm not kidding. Its pretty common, many of the people that are killed by drugs and alchohol die from hypothermia because they laydown outside because they are hot, then thay fall asleep and die.
 
Your moms right. If ever you feel faint you should never lay down on your own.
1 - tell someone that you think you might pass out, even if there is no1 around that you know, make sure someone knows. maybe askthem to check on you in 2mins.
2 - Dont laydown somewhere cold like a tiled floor. If you do pass out you could get die of hypothermia, and I'm not kidding. Its pretty common, many of the people that are killed by drugs and alchohol die from hypothermia because they laydown outside because they are hot, then thay fall asleep and die.

Good advice, though the first is more pertinent and I hope you pay attention to this advice,

:eek: HELLO do you have a trainer at your school? My trainer would have killed me if I ignored something happening in my head! Anything that makes you not able to finish a workout or makes you want to pass out is notable and not to be ignored. You should have talked to your trainer, you should now be resting, and you should now get your doctor to check you out. What if next time you do pass out? What if next time it isn't while you are working out but walking down the street or something?

About testing, you might need an MRI or something. Who cares what exercise you were doing! THIS IS YOUR BRAIN
OK< so are you on the phone with your doctor yet? I mean, cause I get the feeling you are not the kind of guy to just complain about every little thing... so I am trying to push you in that direction....


It seems that maybe money is the issue, do you have health insurance?
 
I would go get checked asap. Never muck around with anthing to do with the head or neck. With all the nerves and arteries that run from your head to the rest of you bod it would be bad news not to listen to your bod. Avoid all heavy lifting and strenous exercise til you get checked. If there was a burst vessel that doesn't clot off (or you break open again) you could end up with a small bleed that would slowly increase your ICP, that is not good. As well the bleed could irritate your brain and cause symptoms like a stroke. Disruption of blood flow could lead to weird sensations in your limbs etc as well. I would go in and get monitored for bp, pulse and have the risk of increased ICP evaluated by a professional. It is hard to say without looking and assessing over the internet. Are your pupils even and reactive? Are you having any unusual feelings? Just my opinion but I would go see a doc.
 
Thanks Russ. Yeah, my mom said exactly what you said in number 1.

Good advice, though the first is more pertinent and I hope you pay attention to this advice,

:eek: HELLO do you have a trainer at your school? My trainer would have killed me if I ignored something happening in my head! Anything that makes you not able to finish a workout or makes you want to pass out is notable and not to be ignored. You should have talked to your trainer, you should now be resting, and you should now get your doctor to check you out. What if next time you do pass out? What if next time it isn't while you are working out but walking down the street or something?

About testing, you might need an MRI or something. Who cares what exercise you were doing! THIS IS YOUR BRAIN
OK< so are you on the phone with your doctor yet? I mean, cause I get the feeling you are not the kind of guy to just complain about every little thing... so I am trying to push you in that direction....


It seems that maybe money is the issue, do you have health insurance?
Thanks BF. Yes, we have a trainer at the school. The problem is, being completely serious from my experiences and the word of a dozen+ others, he doesn't like anybody but football players. I'm not saying that or complaining, it's the straight fact. The guys an asshole and was really a **** when I went to him twice.

I'm going to talk to the powerlifting coach tomorrow because we have the Strength Test Monday-Friday of next week. Also, the powerlifting competition is March 24th.
I appreciate it. Yes, I just came home from the doctors. Money isn't THAT big of an issue, I just don't want my parents to have to pay like 500$ if nothing is wrong. Yes, we have insurance, and I think they said that it is probably going to be covered. So that's good.

I would go get checked asap. Never muck around with anthing to do with the head or neck. With all the nerves and arteries that run from your head to the rest of you bod it would be bad news not to listen to your bod. Avoid all heavy lifting and strenous exercise til you get checked. If there was a burst vessel that doesn't clot off (or you break open again) you could end up with a small bleed that would slowly increase your ICP, that is not good. As well the bleed could irritate your brain and cause symptoms like a stroke. Disruption of blood flow could lead to weird sensations in your limbs etc as well. I would go in and get monitored for bp, pulse and have the risk of increased ICP evaluated by a professional. It is hard to say without looking and assessing over the internet. Are your pupils even and reactive? Are you having any unusual feelings? Just my opinion but I would go see a doc.

Thanks, Jenn. I just got back from the doctors. He isn't exactly sure what it is. At first he thought it may be muscles, but when I told him how I'm a wrestler and all that, and we did all these little tests, he said that he thinks it may be something like a disk or blood vessels or something. He isn't really sure though. He said that tomorrow morning he is going to make calls and try to get me an MRI as soon as possible. I did lift today =/ it only REALLY throbbed when I did heavy weights (usual weights) so I cut back weight on most exercises. The rest of the time (I know, I'm an idiot) I worked through a decent-sized headache. What is ICP? I've been trying to find out through the internet...Inductively Coupled Plasma? My pupils are fine, when the headache gets real bad, the tops of my eyes (I know this sounds weird) I can feel pulsate with my heartbeat (like the rest of my body, especially back-left side of my head....and sometimes it moves to the full left side ie. temple)


The doctor said he doesn't think I should do the strength test until he has cleared me. So I need to talk to my coach about that. I'll keep everybody updated. I appreciate all the urgency and concern. TY :)
 
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You might also be able to find some extra help over at Russbo.com. The administrator there posts his medical opinions often, as he was Chief Anesthesiologist in Las Vegas for a few years. He knows his stuff. That, or if you want, I can copy/paste what you said and you can check out the thread.
 
ICP is intra cranial pressure. If that goes up past a certain point it spells big trouble, depresses a lot of body systems etc. This is why suspected head injuries are taken so seriously. Feeling the pulsing at the top of your eyes suggests a rise in ICP. I would take your doc seriously and stop lifting until you are cleared. Put it like this ok so you like lifting but if you gork yourself you won't be able to lift. Do some research on head injury and stroke etc. Make an educated desicion from there, I think though that your doc has more than enough education and sense to listen to what he is telling you. Get the MRI and see what happens from there. Just because you are strong and tough doesn't mean your blood vessels and organs etc are. Did you know that the impact from a car accident can completely sever the aortic artery (fatal injury) and the patient may never even have outward signs on his/her body(like bruising etc). Just my two cents.
 
You might also be able to find some extra help over at Russbo.com. The administrator there posts his medical opinions often, as he was Chief Anesthesiologist in Las Vegas for a few years. He knows his stuff. That, or if you want, I can copy/paste what you said and you can check out the thread.
From that video on the homepage, he looks like he definitley does. There are like a million sections in that forum. I just skimmed it, but I'll take a closer look and might post. Thanks.

ICP is intra cranial pressure. If that goes up past a certain point it spells big trouble, depresses a lot of body systems etc. This is why suspected head injuries are taken so seriously. Feeling the pulsing at the top of your eyes suggests a rise in ICP. I would take your doc seriously and stop lifting until you are cleared. Put it like this ok so you like lifting but if you gork yourself you won't be able to lift. Do some research on head injury and stroke etc. Make an educated desicion from there, I think though that your doc has more than enough education and sense to listen to what he is telling you. Get the MRI and see what happens from there. Just because you are strong and tough doesn't mean your blood vessels and organs etc are. Did you know that the impact from a car accident can completely sever the aortic artery (fatal injury) and the patient may never even have outward signs on his/her body(like bruising etc). Just my two cents.
They scheduled me in for Sunday at 2:15 for the MRI. I need to go in tomorrow to do a blood test to make sure my kidneys are working fine or something. I did lift today, but VERY low weights with the same setxrep scheme. Today was the first day that I didn't feel my head at all. Well, up until after the workout when I was doing some jump rope cardio-I felt it a little, but for some reason only when I was doing it, then right after I didn't feel a thing. I think that it might be going down...do you think I should still go through with everything even if I don't feel it anymore? Because as of right now, I hardly feel it (if at all) and Sunday is 5 days away. I think that the problem might fade away by then? It would be kind of weird if they did an MRI and I didn't feel a problem and they didn't see anything. Better safe than sorry though, I guess?
 
From that video on the homepage, he looks like he definitley does. There are like a million sections in that forum. I just skimmed it, but I'll take a closer look and might post. Thanks.

The video? Nah, the owner of the company used to be a doctor. The video is all about martial arts.

It's just another medical opinion, you should obviously give your doctor's more weight, but it's good to hear from other people, too.
 
Go through with the tests, or what are you going to do, stay on the light weights plan forever? Better safe than sorry is right... I can't even beleive you are still working out!
 
Go through with the tests. You should no be lifting at all until you r doctor clears you!! Sometimes you young people astound me- you are NOT invincible! Bad things can happen to you, just ask the family of the 19 year boy that died of a heart attack that my friend had a couple months ago.
 
Go through with the tests, or what are you going to do, stay on the light weights plan forever? Better safe than sorry is right... I can't even beleive you are still working out!
Lol, well...I'm at least going to stay on light weights for the rest of this week...what sucks is Friday, the first thing on the workout is 'Deadlift - standing on 2'' box - max' I might do some deadlifting...but prob stay around 135 (I can dead around 220+). I love lifting and the Powerlifting Meet is in 3 weeks (March 24th).

Go through with the tests. You should no be lifting at all until you r doctor clears you!! Sometimes you young people astound me- you are NOT invincible! Bad things can happen to you, just ask the family of the 19 year boy that died of a heart attack that my friend had a couple months ago.
I'm definitley going to go through with them. My doctor said I can only lift if I use very light weights (he knows I love lifting and the meet and all that). I know that bad things can happen, I cut back the amount of weights by alot. If I think the exercise will be too much, I won't even do it at all. With 3 weeks left until a competition, and when your numbers are still rising at a good rate...would you just completely take a week or 2 off without lifting at all, Jenn? Not even doing light weights to keep your muscles moving?


I got my blood taken today. Wasn't bad, didn't feel it. Though it was weird watching her stick the needle in and out lol. When I get the MRI, I'm going to ask if they can give me a copy of the X-Ray and I'll have a new avatar =] They took out a lot of blood though =/
 
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With 3 weeks left until a competition, and when your numbers are still rising at a good rate...would you just completely take a week or 2 off without lifting at all, Jenn? Not even doing light weights to keep your muscles moving?


Yes I would and I have taken time off because of injury. I am not going to get into it with you. Its your body if you think the risk is worth it then best of luck to you.
 
Alright, I'll take the rest of the week off. Hopefully by next week they will officially give me the ok to go back to lifting heavy. I'll find out Sunday.
 
Just came back from getting the MRI done. DAMN was that annoying. Sitting still, not moving any part of your body for literally 1 hour and 10 minutes. When I sat up at the end when it was over, my back and neck cracked SOOOO much. Other than the annoying trying to sit still for an hour plus, it wasn't bad. I tried to fall asleep, but the MRI machine sounds like a jack hammer. They give you ear plugs, but the sound is so loud its very audible still. The needle with the contrast dye they gave me 35 minutes (halfway)through was so big. The doctor when he was doing it didn't speak english very well, so he goes "1, 2, 3" *sticks needle in slowly* while the needle is slowly going in, he goes "sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry" lol. It was a long needle and him going so slow didn't help...but it didn't hurt, just felt weird.

Hopefully they will read it within a day or two and get back to me about it and lifting. Not sure how long that takes. BTW, does anyone know who I should ask about getting a copy of the XRay? I was going to ask the radiologists, but forgot to. =/
 
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