Obesity Educator With Questions

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Peeps, just stop feeding the idiot. You can say what you want, bring as much proof as you want, he is just going to turn it around and read into it what he wants to. There is no way of changing his opinion or attitude. And as long as anybody reacts to his bs, he will happily go on, that's all he wants.

Probably wasn't boob-fed for long enough and needs some attention now....so please, for the sake of the board....just don't react to his nonsense anymore!
 
I'm bored with the conversation. The nut of it is, laboratory or not, you're message is misdirected.

It's really that simple.

Thanks for the reply.
 
I don't have a whole lot to say...except for this. Mal is a big hero here. I admire her more than I can adequately express with words.

I can't say the same for you as I only see you trying to instigate crap.

The free online dictionary defines glutton as: A person who eats or consumes immoderate amounts of food and drink. If a person is fat the only way that can possibly happen is by chronically eating immoderate amounts of food.

You may disagree with that definition. It is my firm belief that before one can solve a problem one needs to define it accurately first. Language can be imprecise but the word glutton is what we use to describe individual who chronically eat too much. Fat people chronically eat to much. If that in your estimation makes them something other than gluttonous please tell me what you think it is.
 
I'm bored with the conversation. The nut of it is, laboratory or not, you're message is misdirected.

It's really that simple.

Thanks for the reply.

I am not trying to deliver any message. I am having a discussion that is making some people uncomfortable. In fact some people are so uncomfortable that they are saying some very unkind things to me and about me.

People here seem very eager to respond. Why do you suppose that is Steve?
 
I am not trying to deliver any message. I am having a discussion that is making some people uncomfortable. In fact some people are so uncomfortable that they are saying some very unkind things to me and about me.

People here seem very eager to respond. Why do you suppose that is Steve?
Because you are an idiot troll who likes to ruffle feathers with your useless banter. People respond because you are an attention whore. Why don't you go find a glutton forum where no one wants to work out or lose weight. Maybe there you could use your nazi techniques.
 
People here seem very eager to respond. Why do you suppose that is Steve?

What you just posted there says nothing about the misdirection of your rants.

This community is not an extension of the masses and that's my only point. If you'd like, I'll copy and paste your direct quotes that are misdirected... but I believe you to be a smart man and don't need such coddling.

People here have eaten more than they expended over their lives. The net result is an overabundance of fat that they are attempting to rid themselves of.

They've come to this community as a step in the right direction. The serious members, and there are many of them here, have taken the time to educate themselves.

They've taken the steps to ensure that though there may be gluttonous steps along the way, the net direction is one of fat loss and health.

And they've succeeded at rates that outdo the stats of the masses that you so elegantly came in slamming down their throats.

Now picture this for a moment. You establish a community similar to this one where you express all of your opinions and data. People buy into it, are successful, and your membership grows and grows. You have thousands of members and they're all improving by the metrics of health and body composition.

Then I come into your forum and go off on a tirade about all fat people being gluttons. I don't take into account the fact that the members of your forum, though some of them are fat, are well on their way to reeducation and success. I don't acknowledge the framework of common sense and solid information you've provided to the community. I just assume that b/c there are fat people on your forum that they need to learn a thing or two about the things I think I know.

I'm quite certain you'd be offended by such an occurrence.

I'm also quite certain that any logical thinking member on your forum would be offended by my approach and assumptive behavior.

Not b/c of some super awesome reality check I'm providing your members with.

No, not at all.

The reason they'd be up in arms is the simple fact that I delusionally believe in said reality check. I delussionaly believe that it's warranted to the members of your community. They'd be up in arms and responsive to my bullshit b/c my tirade is completely misdirected.

If you could possibly step outside the confines of your own perceptions for one moment, you might begin to understand where the 'heat' is coming from. You might realize it has more to do with said assumptions than any sort of 'wake up call' you're providing.

More importantly, your message may be accepted much better and a meaningful conversation could possibly ensue if you ditched the misplaced rants and replaced them with actual community involvement. You know... actually provide your insights and opinions where they fit.

I could actually see myself having a meaningful conversation with you but that is blocked by your delusional perceptions of what this community is about, what impact you're actually having here, and why said impact is playing out the way it is in this very thread.
 
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They've come to this community as a step in the right direction. The serious members, and there are many of them here, have taken the time to educate themselves.

They've taken the steps to ensure that though there may be gluttonous steps along the way, the net direction is one of fat loss and health.

And they've succeeded at rates that outdo the stats of the masses that you so elegantly came in slamming down their throats.


Your whole post was well written and said but I especially liked this part, and it touched my heart. <3
 
More importantly, your message may be accepted much better and a meaningful conversation could possibly ensue if you ditched the misplaced rants and replaced them with actual community involvement. You know... actually provide your insights and opinions where they fit.
Ding ding ding...

Exactly my thought - get off the soapbox, stop preaching and join community - ranting is having the opposite effect.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt -what's your point in coming here? Do yuo want to help people? If so then community involvement is the best way to do that... that doesn't mean coddling them but that means giving your advice to the audience that it will fit... not just throwing it up against a wall and seeing what sticks
 
I am not trying to deliver any message. I am having a discussion that is making some people uncomfortable. In fact some people are so uncomfortable that they are saying some very unkind things to me and about me.

People here seem very eager to respond. Why do you suppose that is Steve?

People are being unkind to you because you are (1) stating the obvious in a very rude and unnecessary way and (2) trying to make money off of us.

What's more, you have absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING about our issues because you are clear in stating that you're not a "foody", you're not a "glutton" and you are not that seduced by food. So of course you have NO IDEA about our issues and since you have offered NOT 1 solution, I dont see why you're here. Oh yeah, I get it..you will offer your inciteful advice just as soon as we pay you some dollars. No thanks..LOL We'll do this without you and your rants. Especially if you're going to charge us. BTW, how much do you charge to berate your clients? I am so curious!
 
Are the flavors worth taking 20 years off your life and lowering the quality of the ones you have left?
A really well cooked braised lamb shank in red wine with rosemary, garlic, and thyme on poletna is a worth at least 15 years
Are your children, grand children and perhaps great grand children worth less than that flavor buzz? Do you think that maybe they may need you for as long as you can be there for them?
THanks to a not fat drunk driver - I never had the ability to have children... or grand children for that matter.

Food is easy. Food does not judge. Food needs nothing in return. Food will never let you down. Food will never ignore your pleas. Food is loyal. Food is seductive. Food is pleasure. Maybe it is time for you to find a friend who needs you.
People pretty much suck - food -however is very tasty

Maybe it is time for you to find a friend who needs you.
I've never had the desire to be needed... Wanted yes.. but needed - no chance in hell - that's far too codependent for me... I'll take the people who want me in their lives -those that need me - can kiss my gluttonous fat ass :D
 
I am not trying to deliver any message. I am having a discussion that is making some people uncomfortable. In fact some people are so uncomfortable that they are saying some very unkind things to me and about me.

People here seem very eager to respond. Why do you suppose that is Steve?

If you're not trying to deliver any message, why are you here?
 
For a discussion about weight loss and obesity its cause and cure.
But see, there are many different causes for obesity, and many different cures. Instead of helping people and offering a positive solution, you are a douche. That's ok, though... Just don't cry when you realize no one likes you.
 
But see, there are many different causes for obesity, and many different cures. Instead of helping people and offering a positive solution, you are a douche. That's ok, though... Just don't cry when you realize no one likes you.

LOL this was funny! Its so fun when a troll joins the forum! My job is putting me to sleep at the moment so..
 
I am living proof. Or you can prove it to yourself using the Harris/Benedict equation.

The only thing you are living proof of is arrogant stupidity. If you're going to use the argument of "I am living proof", then allow me to disprove everything you have said about how dangerous obese people are...

I have never hurt anybody, nor have I ever endangered anybody's life or free will, in any way, shape or form, due to my weight or size.

Therefore, I am living proof that everything you are saying about fat people is completely uneducated, narrow-mindedly biased horseshit.
 
But see, there are many different causes for obesity, and many different cures. Instead of helping people and offering a positive solution, you are a douche. That's ok, though... Just don't cry when you realize no one likes you.

There is ONLY ONE CAUSE. That cause is EATING MORE CALORIES THAN YOU BURN.

I am not trying to win any popularity contest. If I wanted to do that I would have to tell the lies fat people want to hear.

You want a solution? Here it is. If you are a woman eat no more than 2000 calories per day and if you are a man eat no more than 2500 calories per day. If you do that it will be IMPOSSIBLE to get fat.

If you have proof that an adult female or male human of normal height can get fat on 2000 and 2500 please present it. You called me a douche. You comment stinks so much that perhaps you need to douche between your ears.
 
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