This is not a personal attack nor is it directed solely at Steve, I believe it applies to a number of the professionals/fitness experts that have recently started to visit WLF.
Not at all, you may have a very in depth knowledge of how the body works but I do not know that for sure. I think the problem lays elsewhere. As a relatively new member of this forum community most people do not know much about you or were you are coming from or what your experiences are. As we all know every forum, no matter what the focus, has a wide variety of people participating. Some of these people are truly helpful in providing good, correct information, others simple act like experts by regurgitating something they read 15 minutes ago, while others seem to give the worst advice on the planet and not know anything. Everyone needs to process and filter any advice they get and decide the merit of that advice. This is a process that takes time. It appears to me that you are getting very frustrated because people are not agreeing with and accepting your advice. I do not know the perfect solution to this but being combative and argumentative are probably not the best ways.
The other thing I have observed from some of your posts as well as from some of the other fitness guys is that while I truly believe that you guys are very knowledgeable when it comes to fitness and nutrition I think you are all lacking in the knowledge of the emotional side of being overweight, or in many cases on this forum, morbidly obese. There is a TON of emotional issues and baggage that many people on this forum carry from years of being fat. I think it would go a long way here if you would try to consider why many of us on the forum act and react the way we do. I believe that weight loss for many is so much more of a mental challenge than a physical one. I think it would serve you well to try to remember that. Anyway back to the thread topic.
I believe Tony is correct in saying that it does not really matter when you eat as long as you stay within you limits. But my problem is I tend to make the wrong/bad choices at night or I eat out of boredom or old habits. So I choose not to eat at night to keep myself in check and it has worked well for me. I believe many others here are in the same boat.
Remember guys some are us are or have gone from a life of total gluttony to trying to be healthier, we may not be eating or exercising perfectly but it is a heck of a lot better than we have done in the past. I may not be a poster boy of fitness but I am a whole lot better at 244lbs than I was at 365lbs. No, I did not do everything correctly and I made mistakes along the way but I am still so much better than I was.
So try not to get so frustrated and definitely do not give up on us, just give us time to get used to you and your ideas and get to know you better.
Remember you get more flies with honey…
Have a good day and talk to later guys.
Fenster
I actually highly respect these opinions you have stated here. Thanks.
In all actuality, I used to run a website for obese individuals. It was very successful and most of my clients made a lot of progress. The main focus of that site was the mind, long before nutrition or fitness. So I do understand the mentality of a very overweight persons, which varies from person to person. And I will admit, I have not approached this website like I did my own.
There is a major difference. Those people came to me through referral. Because of this pre-established relationship, there was no "back and fourth" about what was right and what was wrong. The nutrition and fitness side was explained and nothing was questioned, because results were there. The only variable that was a shade of grey, so to speak, was the psychology. But this too, was a success.
This website is the direct opposite, and rightfully so. Most here do not know me. At the same time, many people here like to go against the simple laws of physiology, and yes, it tends to tick me off when they still refute proven science. I understand that it is nothing personal against me, and I truly don't take it as so. That doesn't mean it doesn't bother me though. They may refute simply because a lot of misinformation has been preached on here for a long time and things have become engrained in their minds. Whatever the case may be, it still bothers me.
That said, I could probably handle myself differently. Will I? Haha, depends on my mood I guess. I am not here for money. I am also not here to make friends really. I have met some fantastic people here, and I am happy for that, but that is not my purpose. I am here to help, while being myself. Because of this, I don't think it is on me to "behave" a certain way. I don't have to be a "professional" in here, just as none of you do either. I don't care if I am labeled an "expert" on this forum or not, really. I am just going to keep being myself I think.
This said, again, I respect your post and will keep it in the back of my mind.
