Milestones (Amy's diary)

It's good that you were aware of being discombobulated & took the day off work. I love that word. Sending you back a very gently hug :hug2:
 
Thanks, Petal. It's on the way to being better, anyway, though still hurting etc - I have a most remarkably piebald appearance in places! Yes, everything else is fine. :)

Thanks Cate, especially for the gentleness of the hug! Sending a gentle hug back! :hug2:
 
The last of the large blisters burst last night, and woke me up! I hope that they will all now shrink and dry naturally - and I think my piebaldness is fading, slightly. :)
But to more WLF matters:
My, but this retraining our minds away from unhealthy eating is a long business! And it links in so strongly to self-respect, as per Cate's strawberry graphic, which I would copy here, if I knew how. (It's on the first post of the Kindness challenge thread.)
These thoughts are springing from the mild struggle I had this morning to throw some untouched leftover pieces of toast (with butter and Vegemite) in the bin, rather than eating them myself. My automatic move was to go to eat them, on the grounds that it would be better than "wasting" them - but that is treating myself like a bin, and I won't do that! More to the point, I didn't do that - the line was held, and the toast was binned.
On to a day of self-respectful eating! :)
 
Well done, Amy! I usually make the amount I know I´ll need and just eat that so when I´m out and about I often realize I don´t have a lot of feel for my satiety clues yet.
 
I have to say Amy in my mind I don't see anything wrong with putting food in the bin. I would rather it fill the bin than add more padding to my already well padded body. And quite rightly don't treat your body as a bin treat it as a temple.
You are doing well.
 
Thanks, all! Our relationship with food is so complex, and so deep-rooted - and I don't mean that as a bad thing. I read somewhere on here that food is fuel, and so it is, but it's so much more - food was built-in to our most formative human relationships, for a start, from breast-feeding on.
I was pondering why I find it so difficult to "waste" food, and I think it does go back to childhood, to my parents stressing the importance of "leaving a clean plate" - i.e. eating up the whole of what was put in front of us. It was felt to be wasteful and also, I think, disrespectful to the providers of the food, to just leave, say, a scattering of peas on the plate, let alone a slice of the roast!
Now that I'm in charge of what's put on my plate that doesn't apply, of course - but it might still be part of why I didn't automatically classify the leftover toast as rubbish, and bin it straight away.

And food is built in to the big social occasions too (in all human societies? I think so). As witness the number of posts on this site mentioning the need to plan for the upcoming season. (Shortbread! said Flyer - and boxes of what sounds like Roses chocolates, said Petal, and gingerbread, I was thinking. :) I wonder if a thread about how to handle the flood of foodie treats might be useful? )
 
Food can be a love language, comfort and safety, social glue, a bribe, a sign of wealth, a key to health... No wonder many of us have such a complicated relationship with it. I come from a clean-your-plate family as well and I loathed it but when I was older the rule changed to "if you put it on your plate you finish it" and I just realized that's what I still do when I'm at home.
 
I Think I have written on here in the past how I too was forced to eat food. I can recall being made to sit alone for hours in the kitchen in front of a plate of food I did not like. I believe that's when I started to binge eat on food I did like . It's horrible thinking back on it .

Oh Amy yes I am worried about festive season . Going to do my best to keep doing my plan . But temptation will be everywhere.
 
I think the best way to deal with the Christmas excess is try to use the time off to be as active as you can during the day. It’s all about damage limitation.

I also think we have an obscene amount of temptation every day of the week so I don’t find Christmas any worse, but that’s just me.
 
Petal001 said:
I can recall being made to sit alone for hours in the kitchen in front of a plate of food I did not like. I believe that's when I started to binge eat on food I did like . It's horrible thinking back on it .
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You were a more determined child than I was, Petal! But then I was ready to eat pretty much everything anyway - and I was allowed to refuse the one thing I just couldn't come at eating, which was (shudder) brains. I didn't like lamb's fry or liver or lots of other things, but it was only brains that I just couldn't face, and I was let off them - i.e. they weren't given to me to eat when the rest of the family had them.
The second part of what you say is so sad - about the stress and power-play resulting out in binge-eating. All of which underlines how complex this business is - hence, as LaMa says, our complicated relationship with it.

LaMaria said:
...when I was older the rule changed to "if you put it on your plate you finish it"
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That's the rule they had in Sarajevo, in one buffet restaurant, during the siege! And an excellent rule it is, too!

Oh, for me Christmas is definitely fuller of temptation than other times, Emily! More things in shops, more foodie traditions (when else would I be eating a rich fruit pudding with custard and hard sauce?) more food talk in media generally... But I really like your point about fighting back by being more active. I'd already decided to take on Petal's two-pound safety net tactic, and I'll add in yours about
Emilyrose said:
...us[ing] the time off to be as active as you can during the day. It’s all about damage limitation.
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Right - braced for a month of damage limitation! :)
 
Gosh Amy that’s the first time I ever heard of anyone eating brain . We had to have liver and kidneys on an occasion. I didn’t want either . Glad I ate my lunch before I read that ;):p
 
The story about being made to sit in front of the food for hours is awful Petal.

I know I’m an adult now and I have to take responsibility for myself at some stage, but a lot of my food issues stem from my mother. It’s really only lately I’ve noticed how truly uncomfortable she is in her own body. I’ve inherited her big chest, and she is simultaneously always looking at her own boobs and looking at mine in a judging manner. It’s sad. She’s always wanted to be thinner and I’ve taken all that stuff on board. I remember as a child, she pinched my belly one day, and said, ‘If you can pinch more than an inch, you’re fat.’ I was probably 10 at the time. What hope did I have? And surprise, surprise - where do you think my main ‘problem area’ is now? Mothers, eh? And I have one that loves me!!
 
Petal001 said:
that's the first time I ever heard of anyone eating brain.... Glad I ate my lunch before I read that
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:D Yes, horrible to think of isn't it? They were crumbed, is all I can remember, and I bless my dear parents for not forcing me to eat them. I'm a vegetarian now, but I grew up in a thrifty, meat-eating environment, and nothing edible went to waste - liver, kidney, tongue. The liver and kidneys were always horrible, but then my mum (the best one in the world!) wasn't much of a cook. :) My good aunt (paternal) was a great cook, and made something called "headcheese", which was a home-potted meat, made from goodness knows what odds and ends. Very tasty, too!

Emilyrose said:
She’s always wanted to be thinner
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Mine too! I mean, my mother, like yours, always wanted to be thinner. I also heard that about the self-pinching to check for an inch (along with lots of other tests for "perfection" all of which I failed). Yeah, we are the products of our growing up, for sure - and of the non-stop judging from all sides in the present moment, too - the media are appalling in this respect.
 
I don´t know about headcheese but I know the direct translation into Dutch/Flemish would be "hoofdkaas" and that´s made by boiling a pig´s head with spices and possibly veggies, removing the bones, then pressing the meat into a mold. I say if you´re going to kill animals for food using all parts is the respectful thing to do.
 
I didn't ever see a pig's head, but yes, that sounds like the same thing. I should have said "pressed meat" not "potted meat".
Yes, I agree with you that:
LaMaria said:
if you´re going to kill animals for food using all parts is the respectful thing to do.
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The wrongness, or lack of respect, is shown in the terrible extreme of the slaughter of sharks just for the fins, when the rest of the carcass is just thrown aside.
 
aiminglow said:
If I wanted to try going sugar-free for (say) a month to see how it affected me, would that mean I would have to cut out fruit?
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Depends on your reason for going sugarfree but if it´s just to wean your brain off the sugar rush fruit´s ok because fruit comes with enough fiber to slow absorption, thus giving your body time for a measured insulin response instead of your bloodsugar level first overshooting and then crashing.
aiminglow said:
The wrongness, or lack of respect, is shown in the terrible extreme of the slaughter of sharks just for the fins, when the rest of the carcass is just thrown aside.
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They aren´t even slaughtered. Their fins are often cut off while they´re still alive, then they´re tossed back into the water to die a slow and agonizing death. I´m not a vegetarian but some kinds of animal products I won´t ever touch.
 
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