magic8
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Hi Mermaid Sister!
Hi everybody,
Sorry I've been gone from this forum for so long, but I still read others' posts. And like I said, I am happy to share my experience with the lap band. First of all, I do not believe it is so wrong or bad to consider having surgery. Surgery is okay for some people, and it has saved a lot of lives. That said, yes, there are complications. However, the complications with the lap band are a lot fewer and less dangerous with the band vs. the gastric bypass. Also, I'd like to say that people who have had surgery belong on this forum just as much as anyone else who is using diet to lose weight. Your diet is what makes you lose weight whether you have the lap band or not. I would be sad to learn that we are not welcome here! I have just as much trouble eating well and exercising as all of you do, I promise. I would like to believe that Mermaid Sister and I are welcome here, because we do need help and support too. That said, here's my take on the lap band.
It was not difficult to be approved for the lap band. If you are significantly overweight, the doctors will do whatever they can to help you get approved by your insurance company, and the psychological pre-screening evaluation is not that rigorous. They ask you about your history of dieting, history of mental illness (I have a history of depression and anxiety and have been taking meds for both for years and years; I was still approved). They are mostly checking to see whether you are mentally capable of following instructions regarding the band.
As far as preparation: some doctors make you lose a little weight before the surgery so that the liver will shrink. If you are too big, the liver gets in the way of the surgery and can get damaged during the procedure. However, I didn't have to do this because I wasn't that large (according to the doctors). The day before the surgery you have to stay on a clear liquid diet and take a bunch of laxatives to flush out your bowels. You need to stay near a toilet all day long. The day of the surgery, I went in and immediately was put to sleep. The whole thing took about a half hour. (Mind you, things may be different for gastric bypass--I'm talking about the lap band only.) So the only thing I remember is talking with the anesthesiologist, and then waking up. I wasn't in any pain because they gave me morphine right away. I spent one night in the hospital, and they gave me liquid lortab (same as vicodin) regularly and had me on a clear liquid diet. It didn't hurt, but felt like there was some pressure in my abdomen. The worst pain (which was more like an annoyance) was some pain in my left shoulder that lasted for a few weeks after the surgery. I thought I must be high if I thought my shoulder was hurting after stomach surgery; however, I found out that most banders experience this pain. It's really gas pain, but you'd never know it because it's in your shoulder. This went away fairly quickly and was never excruciating. Deep breathing helps.
I had the surgery on a Thursday morning and was back at work the following Monday. I felt a little "tight", meaning that it hurt a little when I stretched my stomach muscles but was okay when I was leaning forward slightly. No real pain to speak of. After surgery you stay on a clear liquid diet for a week or so, and that's really difficult. You can eat sugar free jello or popsicles, juice, water, crystal light, but nothing that's not clear. After the clear liquid stage, you move to a "full liquid" diet. On that diet you can add soups to the list of things you can eat. After a few days on a full liquid diet, you can have soft cooked eggs. Then you move on to a soft food diet, where your food needs to be a little mushy. Finally you can eat a regular diet but still need to be careful about some foods (bread expands in your stomach and causes some pain). There are still some foods I cannot eat sometimes.
I know for a fact the surgery does work for some people, and I will tell you why I think it didn't work for me. The band makes you feel full really fast. After just a few bites, your hunger is gone. So if you are truly eating because you are hungry, this can help. I know several people who have had success with the band, and it helped them to eat "normally" and not overeat, and they also started exercising and now are at their goal weight. For me, my hunger is in my head, not in my stomach. And this is stomach surgery, not brain surgery! Yes, you can still overeat if you have the band. You cannot overeat meat and potatoes because they are too substantial, but you can overeat liquid-type foods like ice cream, chocolate, candy, and a lot of other stuff that can keep you fat. You can truly have as many milkshakes as you want, but you can't eat too much chicken. This is one of the reasons it didn't work for me. I didn't address my emotional issues, and found a way to "eat around the band". You just learn how to cope with having it and you can overeat anyway.
The purpose of the band is to tighten up the part of the stomach where the stretch receptors are. The stretch receptors signal the brain when the stomach is full, so that the person stops eating. Well, if you make them signal the brain earlier, you should theoretically get the person to stop eating sooner. Well, the problem is that the stretch receptors are very sensitive to hormones. One hormone, cortisol, is what wakes you up in the morning. When I feel that cortisol kick in, I cannot eat anything. It is very difficult for me to eat anything in the first several hours I'm awake. I drink protein shakes, but can't eat solids. Then I can eat something very light at lunch, and a light dinner as well. Then the trouble starts. By nighttime, my cortisol levels have dropped and other hormones have kicked in (I hear grehnlin or something like that is involved). This allows the band to feel looser, and I can eat whatever I want. I can eat it all, all the chips, candy, bread, ice cream, etc. I want and the band doesn't do anything.
So, in order to lose weight with the band, you have to do everything they say to do on this board. You need to make sure you eat enough during the day that you don't binge at night. Also, alcohol affects the stretch receptors, so if you want to eat a lot all you have to do is have a couple glasses of wine. This, in my opinion, is the main problem with the lap band--you can circumvent it's effects. You can wait until nighttime to binge, or have a few drinks, or just eat tiny amounts slowly throughout the day. If you feel subconsciously like you don't deserve to be thin, or if you hate yourself, or if you eat to cope with unpleasant emotions, you will find a way to do it with the band too.
On the plus side, the band is removable. The surgery is reversable, and the liquid in the band they use to tighten it (it's like putting saline into an inner tube around the top of your stomach, and the more saline you put into it the tighter the thing is). The surgery is not difficult, and the risk of complications are very low. This surgery is much, much, MUCH safer than the gastric bypass--there is no stapling or cutting or re-arranging of your intestines. And it DOES work for some people--people who get enough therapy to figure out why they overeat and learn some cognitive behavioral techniques to find other ways of comforting themselves, rewarding themselves, or coping, than using food. And it ONLY works when you are ready to follow the nutrition and exercise advice offered here on this forum.
I used to belong to a forum called LapBandTalk.com. You can find a TON of information there about the surgery and issues people have after having it. I prefer this forum, because I don't need to talk about my band anymore, I need to talk about my brain, my nutrition, my exercise, etc. This seems a better place to learn the behavioral changes, IMHO. I hope that people who jumped on you for wanting to discuss the surgery think a minute and decide whether we really don't belong here. We have just as much work to do as anyone else--probably even more. I would love to hear an acknowledgment that surgery is NOT an easy way out. It's just as hard as doing it with diet and exercise. Because you still have to do it with diet and exercise! The band is just supposed to be a tool to make it easier, and with me, it didn't make it easier enough! I tried to rely on my band alone, and tried to skip the hard work. But I've changed my mind now and am ready to work my butt off to make it happen.
BTW, I did lose 40 lbs. with the lap band and never gained it back. I still have 100 lbs. to lose, but who knows how much weight I might have gained had I never gone under the knife. At least I stopped the steady gain I've been experiencing since I was 25.
Mermaid Sis, you are old enough to make your own decisions when you have all the information, and I hope you think through the pros and cons thoroughly before having surgery. I would not have the surgery again, and would not recommend it to someone like me. However, if you are different and don't eat for emotional reasons and are just hungry a lot, then maybe it could be good for you IF you do all the work of dieting and exercise too. Again, I would like to believe I am welcome at this forum despite having had surgery. Even though I haven't posted in a while, I still visit here often and find support and encouragement here.
If you want to talk more or have more specific questions, please send me a private message or email me and I'd be happy to respond. Also, check out for people in various stages of the process. They will give advice as well. Good luck!
Magic
Hi everybody,
Sorry I've been gone from this forum for so long, but I still read others' posts. And like I said, I am happy to share my experience with the lap band. First of all, I do not believe it is so wrong or bad to consider having surgery. Surgery is okay for some people, and it has saved a lot of lives. That said, yes, there are complications. However, the complications with the lap band are a lot fewer and less dangerous with the band vs. the gastric bypass. Also, I'd like to say that people who have had surgery belong on this forum just as much as anyone else who is using diet to lose weight. Your diet is what makes you lose weight whether you have the lap band or not. I would be sad to learn that we are not welcome here! I have just as much trouble eating well and exercising as all of you do, I promise. I would like to believe that Mermaid Sister and I are welcome here, because we do need help and support too. That said, here's my take on the lap band.
It was not difficult to be approved for the lap band. If you are significantly overweight, the doctors will do whatever they can to help you get approved by your insurance company, and the psychological pre-screening evaluation is not that rigorous. They ask you about your history of dieting, history of mental illness (I have a history of depression and anxiety and have been taking meds for both for years and years; I was still approved). They are mostly checking to see whether you are mentally capable of following instructions regarding the band.
As far as preparation: some doctors make you lose a little weight before the surgery so that the liver will shrink. If you are too big, the liver gets in the way of the surgery and can get damaged during the procedure. However, I didn't have to do this because I wasn't that large (according to the doctors). The day before the surgery you have to stay on a clear liquid diet and take a bunch of laxatives to flush out your bowels. You need to stay near a toilet all day long. The day of the surgery, I went in and immediately was put to sleep. The whole thing took about a half hour. (Mind you, things may be different for gastric bypass--I'm talking about the lap band only.) So the only thing I remember is talking with the anesthesiologist, and then waking up. I wasn't in any pain because they gave me morphine right away. I spent one night in the hospital, and they gave me liquid lortab (same as vicodin) regularly and had me on a clear liquid diet. It didn't hurt, but felt like there was some pressure in my abdomen. The worst pain (which was more like an annoyance) was some pain in my left shoulder that lasted for a few weeks after the surgery. I thought I must be high if I thought my shoulder was hurting after stomach surgery; however, I found out that most banders experience this pain. It's really gas pain, but you'd never know it because it's in your shoulder. This went away fairly quickly and was never excruciating. Deep breathing helps.
I had the surgery on a Thursday morning and was back at work the following Monday. I felt a little "tight", meaning that it hurt a little when I stretched my stomach muscles but was okay when I was leaning forward slightly. No real pain to speak of. After surgery you stay on a clear liquid diet for a week or so, and that's really difficult. You can eat sugar free jello or popsicles, juice, water, crystal light, but nothing that's not clear. After the clear liquid stage, you move to a "full liquid" diet. On that diet you can add soups to the list of things you can eat. After a few days on a full liquid diet, you can have soft cooked eggs. Then you move on to a soft food diet, where your food needs to be a little mushy. Finally you can eat a regular diet but still need to be careful about some foods (bread expands in your stomach and causes some pain). There are still some foods I cannot eat sometimes.
I know for a fact the surgery does work for some people, and I will tell you why I think it didn't work for me. The band makes you feel full really fast. After just a few bites, your hunger is gone. So if you are truly eating because you are hungry, this can help. I know several people who have had success with the band, and it helped them to eat "normally" and not overeat, and they also started exercising and now are at their goal weight. For me, my hunger is in my head, not in my stomach. And this is stomach surgery, not brain surgery! Yes, you can still overeat if you have the band. You cannot overeat meat and potatoes because they are too substantial, but you can overeat liquid-type foods like ice cream, chocolate, candy, and a lot of other stuff that can keep you fat. You can truly have as many milkshakes as you want, but you can't eat too much chicken. This is one of the reasons it didn't work for me. I didn't address my emotional issues, and found a way to "eat around the band". You just learn how to cope with having it and you can overeat anyway.
The purpose of the band is to tighten up the part of the stomach where the stretch receptors are. The stretch receptors signal the brain when the stomach is full, so that the person stops eating. Well, if you make them signal the brain earlier, you should theoretically get the person to stop eating sooner. Well, the problem is that the stretch receptors are very sensitive to hormones. One hormone, cortisol, is what wakes you up in the morning. When I feel that cortisol kick in, I cannot eat anything. It is very difficult for me to eat anything in the first several hours I'm awake. I drink protein shakes, but can't eat solids. Then I can eat something very light at lunch, and a light dinner as well. Then the trouble starts. By nighttime, my cortisol levels have dropped and other hormones have kicked in (I hear grehnlin or something like that is involved). This allows the band to feel looser, and I can eat whatever I want. I can eat it all, all the chips, candy, bread, ice cream, etc. I want and the band doesn't do anything.
So, in order to lose weight with the band, you have to do everything they say to do on this board. You need to make sure you eat enough during the day that you don't binge at night. Also, alcohol affects the stretch receptors, so if you want to eat a lot all you have to do is have a couple glasses of wine. This, in my opinion, is the main problem with the lap band--you can circumvent it's effects. You can wait until nighttime to binge, or have a few drinks, or just eat tiny amounts slowly throughout the day. If you feel subconsciously like you don't deserve to be thin, or if you hate yourself, or if you eat to cope with unpleasant emotions, you will find a way to do it with the band too.
On the plus side, the band is removable. The surgery is reversable, and the liquid in the band they use to tighten it (it's like putting saline into an inner tube around the top of your stomach, and the more saline you put into it the tighter the thing is). The surgery is not difficult, and the risk of complications are very low. This surgery is much, much, MUCH safer than the gastric bypass--there is no stapling or cutting or re-arranging of your intestines. And it DOES work for some people--people who get enough therapy to figure out why they overeat and learn some cognitive behavioral techniques to find other ways of comforting themselves, rewarding themselves, or coping, than using food. And it ONLY works when you are ready to follow the nutrition and exercise advice offered here on this forum.
I used to belong to a forum called LapBandTalk.com. You can find a TON of information there about the surgery and issues people have after having it. I prefer this forum, because I don't need to talk about my band anymore, I need to talk about my brain, my nutrition, my exercise, etc. This seems a better place to learn the behavioral changes, IMHO. I hope that people who jumped on you for wanting to discuss the surgery think a minute and decide whether we really don't belong here. We have just as much work to do as anyone else--probably even more. I would love to hear an acknowledgment that surgery is NOT an easy way out. It's just as hard as doing it with diet and exercise. Because you still have to do it with diet and exercise! The band is just supposed to be a tool to make it easier, and with me, it didn't make it easier enough! I tried to rely on my band alone, and tried to skip the hard work. But I've changed my mind now and am ready to work my butt off to make it happen.
BTW, I did lose 40 lbs. with the lap band and never gained it back. I still have 100 lbs. to lose, but who knows how much weight I might have gained had I never gone under the knife. At least I stopped the steady gain I've been experiencing since I was 25.
Mermaid Sis, you are old enough to make your own decisions when you have all the information, and I hope you think through the pros and cons thoroughly before having surgery. I would not have the surgery again, and would not recommend it to someone like me. However, if you are different and don't eat for emotional reasons and are just hungry a lot, then maybe it could be good for you IF you do all the work of dieting and exercise too. Again, I would like to believe I am welcome at this forum despite having had surgery. Even though I haven't posted in a while, I still visit here often and find support and encouragement here.
If you want to talk more or have more specific questions, please send me a private message or email me and I'd be happy to respond. Also, check out for people in various stages of the process. They will give advice as well. Good luck!
Magic