Journey, Not A Destination

Hear Hear.

I think of my body fat like gas in my tank. I have to go hundreds of miles to use that fat/gas up (through exercise). If I stay parked, the fat/gas, is just going to stay in my tank. Gotta get a move on, and quit putting more gas than I need in the tank.
 
Simple enough and do-able enough...

but for the person who needs to lose more than 20lbs or so - the head has to be in the right place to do that.. the person has to be ready to do it.. and no amount of education makes that person ready - I don't even know what turns that ready light on for people... it's really just digging down into one's self and finding that readiness...

That's an interesting topic.

For instance... someone like you, Mal. Nobody was going to be able to make you lose weight. You're one particular type of person.

And everyone has to want it internally.

But to get to that internal place, some people are much more receptive of external forces.

In my experience, there are a good number of people who you can coax. It's not so much coaxing, but a matter of changing the way they view things, which in a way might be labeled education.

I just call it psychology of desire or something like that.
 
the head has to be in the right place to do that.. the person has to be ready to do it.. and no amount of education makes that person ready -

Interesting....

Theres a lot of people who have addictive personalities and either don't know it, or really don't pay attention to it.

Food addicts
Smokers
Drinkers


You can put on the side of a pack of smokes that cigarettes will kill, and you're right "no amount of education makes that person ready" to make the change.

You can warn people that their lives will be cut short from being overweight, obese, and out of shape, and they still wont change.

I guess it just comes down to people settling on what kind of quality of life they are comfortable with, how they want to feel inside, and how long they want to live.
 
Move more, eat less.

It is very profound.


At the end of the day.... it turns out that the complexity is mostly built on lies and gimmicks and unfortunately the gullibility of the masses eat these things up.

There was a cute hippie boy in front of me at the market at lunch and we started chatting about gluten free diets for some reason. He said, "I been wanting to try that....I heard you get so much more energy doing that,"

and I said, "I find getting enough sleep is more effective for that." To which he agreed and said he didn't get enough. And the checker yawned and I asked her if she got enough sleep and she was like "no." Simplicity is the hardest thing sometimes.

but for the person who needs to lose more than 20lbs or so - the head has to be in the right place to do that.. the person has to be ready to do it.. and no amount of education makes that person ready - I don't even know what turns that ready light on for people... it's really just digging down into one's self and finding that readiness...

100% true

But I think it could go for someone with 30 or less pounds too.

In my experience, there are a good number of people who you can coax. It's not so much coaxing, but a matter of changing the way they view things, which in a way might be labeled education.

I just call it psychology of desire or something like that.

Interesting!

From my brief and limited life experience, some people you can get through to....others, nuthin. That case always sucks.
 
You can warn people that their lives will be cut short from being overweight, obese, and out of shape, and they still wont change.
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even at almost 400lbs i could walk most anyone under the table - my blood sugar and cholesterol were perfect -I was healthier than any person had a right to be - health was not nor is not now ever a factor in my weight loss. the healther i am the longer i'll live -and with the hits my IRAs have taken over the past few years -I don't want to live til im 92 -i can't afford it...
 
That's an interesting topic.

For instance... someone like you, Mal. Nobody was going to be able to make you lose weight. You're one particular type of person.
Yeah there's a word for people like me -and it's generally not flattering..

but i'm not all that unique...

and I know we've had this discussion here at length -there are multiple people on this very forum that haven't found that readiness yet... and those people are NOTHING like me... they've got the tools they need, they've not made the choice to do something about it.

But to get to that internal place, some people are much more receptive of external forces.
I keep hoping that if I talk long enough that some people will lsiten but doesn't really happen. I don't say the right things..

In my experience, there are a good number of people who you can coax. It's not so much coaxing, but a matter of changing the way they view things, which in a way might be labeled education.
Those are having the right words to get that person to the point where they are ready... is it education - maybe - maybe not... Part of being ready is accepting that you can eat a reasonable amount of calories, you don't have to exercise yourself into a coma.. that you can take a common sense approach that it does take time... and it's finding that REAL motivation... why you really want to lose weight... (and i'll bet a dollar that most people -health -ain't the reason... :D
 
Simplicity is the hardest thing sometimes.

That's another amazingly profound statement. One a lot of people get hung up on. I'm a contrarian by nature who values simplicity... always have been. So by nature, I have a knack for breaking things down to their foundational elements. I can't imagine not doing that with most things in life. It's that foundational understanding of *everything* that helps me think rationally.


Interesting!

From my brief and limited life experience, some people you can get through to....others, nuthin. That case always sucks.

Yup, that's been my take. And that's my point. Different people are responsive to different things. As a trainer, that's something I've found to be true firsthand quite often. I feel it's my job to establish drive in a client when it doesn't exist there naturally. Rather than waiting for that drive to be ignited, I believe in the idea of helping people find it.

No, I don't mean cheerleading, which is what you see most trainers doing in gyms. Saying things like, "You can do this" when in truth, the client can't.

I mean more along the lines of finding mental constructs that are habitual and counterproductive and breaking them down. Helping people change perception.

But again, that's easier said than done. Some people are receptive. Some people are not.

For those who aren't.... I'm certainly willing to try but I'm also willing to count my losses and feel like I have a good gauge in relation to knowing with whom my 'training' will work and not work.
 
Yup, that's been my take. And that's my point. Different people are responsive to different things. As a trainer, that's something I've found to be true firsthand quite often. I feel it's my job to establish drive in a client when it doesn't exist there naturally. Rather than waiting for that drive to be ignited, I believe in the idea of helping people find it.
that's part of what makes a good trainer - finding what a person responds to...

I've done software training for entirely too many years.. and it's quite close -there are some people who are terrified of technology - i know it's a skill that I possessed to be able to break down complex concepts into terms the person can understand... and not make them feel like a retard in the process..

It's harder to find in a trainer.. too many take the one size fits all approach ... and it really doesnt
 
Good points....

To be good at anything, it doesn't matter what the profession, I think being dynamic in your approach is necessary.
 
i don't disagree...

unless of course your profession is burger flipper at the bk lounge then you have to follow the predestined guidelines... very few other jobs, and life itself, doesn't have an explicit set of rules to follow.

but you knew that - i just like typing today...
 
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Being a dynamic burger flipper would be beneficial over the inflexible burger flipper.

I mean, the need to be dynamic isn't only about your ability to reach a broad range of people.

Sometimes being dynamic is important when environment changes. What if BK decided to completely change the rules? The inflexible flipper might have some trouble b/c he can't let go of old, preconceived notions.

I like typing too. :)
 
ah but what if the flexible burger flipper decided to start making open faced burgers or not using pickles or adding 3 slices of cheese -it could throw off the time space continuum of burger king patrons who had the expectation of a burger done the way they had always had it...

Does burger king have rules regarding food preparation? i was a jester of the polyester palace in high school - and haven't been in one since..
Ok so everyone should be dynamic.. :D
 
i want a really good burger now...

and i used to want a job at burger king because it required absolutely no thought processes... but apparantly i was mistaken about that.. :(
 
Being dynamic requires a certain level of intelligence and logic too. It's just another characteristic of a well rounded person.

I've met plenty of intelligent people that are not dynamic. They are also not well rounded and it shows in their decision making abilities and critical assessments (or lack thereof).

Enough seriousness though.

I ate McDonalds the other day. First time in such a long, long time. I know you don't like that shit. I found it amazingly appetizing. It is not something I could eat regularly at all. But it's was a nice treat.
 
Blackie’s Legendary Best-Ever Burger –juicy half-pound beef hamburger with leaf lettuce, onion (raw or grilled) served with golden french fries – 6.95

Blackie’s Cheese Burger –same delicious burger as above with a choice of American, cheddar, swiss, or monterey jack cheese served with golden french fries – 6.95 Bleu Cheese – 1.00 extra.

Blackie’s Mushroom Burger -juicy half-pound beef hamburger with sautéed fresh mushrooms, thick cut bacon, leaf lettuce, onion (raw or grilled) and served with golden french fries - 8.95



Once you've had Blackies.. you can never go back :D

With a nice chilled beer... :D
 
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it's not something a person could have every day and live too long... but there's nothing like a couple of slices of thick cut well cooked bacon to make anything taste good -heck bacon could probably make a whey protein shake taste good :D
 
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