Journey, Not A Destination

You are probably right...

To boot, I think their realtor would give me a shot even is someone came along and made a better offer.
 
She is operating under the impression right now, as well as the owners, that I am not in the market for a house. I am happy where I am and simply liked this house is what I said to them. So they probably feel no pressure.
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You don't have a timeframe for this - do you? it's not like you've got kids who would need to be registered for a new school (not that i'm aware of anyhow :D )

You're playing it low key so they're takin their time...

If I were you - and I'm not.... crap if I were you I'd never leave the mirror :D I would look at other properties just to see what else is out there...
 
hahaha, no, i'm in no rush really. I'm of the type though that when I get my sites on something... I want it then and now. It's a poor quality of mine. Not a lot of patience in this sort of thing. To add, Krista really wants this house.

That said though, we really weren't looking to move AT ALL until we found out about this house.

I think if the sellers take their good old time, it would be wise for us just to weigh our options. Look around at what's on the market in the area as you said. Shit, I could build a house for this kind of money.

The thing about this house is you aren't going to find anything comparable. There aren't many houses for sale around here built in the 1700s and certainly not any that have the sort of property this one has. It has the stream, a cliff, a large patch of woods, borders a state park/preserve....

It simply has a lot going for it.

But I'll be the turtle for now and wait it out. I emailed the realtor this morning thanking her for her time and service.
 
Good luck with the house Steve. I hope they take the offer. I'm sure you will make a good decision. Just use your head. I have seen a lot of people make mistakes with big purchases by either
A) Giving in to much, getting anxious and over enthused and paying too much
B) Turning the negotiating into a pissing contest and losing out on what was still a great buy over a few thousand dollars or the buyers refusing to paint the fence first or something silly.

As a salesman I can tell you that I have seen some people do some down right boneheaded, completely illogical decisions based on some of the most petty, irrelevant factors.
 
Oh, I need advise. On an overhead press. Any pros/cons to using one foot in front of the other form verses a feet side by side? Some of the form vids/pics I have seen it seems like at full extension the weight is well behind the lifter. That seems odd to me but is it correct? I seem to have to focus on not sticking my belly out and kind of turning into a more bench like motion. I try to keep it linear. From chest, right past the nose, to directly overhead.

Here is a picture of what I mean. It seems the bar is well behind him.
 
edco76 said:
Oh, I need advise. On an overhead press. Any pros/cons to using one foot in front of the other form verses a feet side by side?
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One serious con associated with the staggered stance is instability. Side by side offers a much more solid foundation to press from.

Some of the form vids/pics I have seen it seems like at full extension the weight is well behind the lifter. That seems odd to me but is it correct? I seem to have to focus on not sticking my belly out and kind of turning into a more bench like motion. I try to keep it linear. From chest, right past the nose, to directly overhead.
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Check out the vids on overhead pressing here:

http://weight-loss.fitness.com/topic/21687-relevant-videos.html
 
Thanks Steve, I checked one of your stickied threads for vids but the links were busted. I have never seen that thread before. I'll be sure and bookmark it.
 
edco76 said:
Thanks Steve, I checked one of your stickied threads for vids but the links were busted. I have never seen that thread before. I'll be sure and bookmark it.
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No problem, and yea, that's some good instruction in that vid from Rippetoe so watch it a few times.

I think I gave some instruction in the "basic lifts" sticky too if I remember correctly. Maybe not though.
 
Re:Steve (isolation vs. compound)

Steve said:
Certainly. :)

I definitely suggest reading through the stickies too.

A compound exercise requires the use of multiple joints and muscle groups.

An isolation movement revolves around one joint targeting a singular muscle.

Take the biceps for instance.

To train it in isolation, you would do something like a dumbbell bicep curl.

To train it in a compound fashion, you would do something like a dumbbell row.

bicep curl =

dumbbell row =

Note, I'm not suggesting these videos show proper exercise form. They do exemplify what I mean by the two exercises though.

With the former, you're really only targeting your biceps. (isolation)

With the latter, you're using your back/lats, shoulders, and biceps. (compound)

More muscles used = more efficiency. When dieting, you don't want to spend a huge amount of time in lifting. If you were to use primarily isolation movements, it would take you much longer to train your entire body since 1 exercise = 1 muscle, right?

So you want to utilize that efficiency associated with compound exercises. They, in general, also expend more energy. So they're better for muscle maintenance and they're better for caloric expenditure.

Follow me?

I should also note that there are times and places for isolation movements. Nothing is black/white, either/or in this field.



It was just an analogy.

ROI = return on investment.

What I meant by that, related to what I said above, is isolation exercises don't give you as much bang for your buck in the context of this discussion.



If I'm understanding you, it sounds like a front raise, targeting your shoulder. If that's the case, I wouldn't concern yourself so much with this movement.



This is basically doing the same thing as the first exercise.

It sounds like you need to restructure your program.



Most people are weak in these movements. It's not necessarily b/c you're weak either... the lever arm is really long in this movement. Fancy way of saying the physics and the angles of movement make this exercise feel harder than others that train the same exercise, thus requiring you to use less weight.



As someone noted above, eventually, and probably sooner than later, you're going to want to progress.

Dumbbells that don't allow you to adjust the weight really limit what you can do. Lifting weights is a stressor. Our bodies are highly adaptive and don't like stress beyond what they're used to. This being the case, when you place it under stress above and beyond what it is accustomed to, it's going to adapt to make this stress easier to handle.

In the case of weight lifting, this adaptation entails bigger, stronger muscles.

If you're aren't placing a stress beyond this threshold... adaptation isn't going to happen.

8 lbs in the beginning may very well be an sufficient 'overload' in certain exercises. You will undoubtedly outgrow this though.

Also, isolation exercises require the use of less weight than compound. So where 8 lbs might be heavy for your isolation shoulder exercises from above, the same dumbbells may feel very light for compound exercises for your shoulders, such as overhead presses.

I feel like we're really hijacking the thread. If people wish, we can certainly move this convo to my journal or something.
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This has been SOO helpful. You are right about restructuring my program. The only thing I do and pretty much the only workout I know is a 10 yr. old Cindy Crawford tape. That's where the front and side raises that I was talking about are from. I'll be doing a lot of reading from the stickies today so I can formulate a new routine. I do have a treadmill, and will be getting a plate loaded weight machine this week and an exercise bike in August. By next month I should be set. For now I'll work on learning more compound exercises with my weights and burning calories on the 'mill.


My body type: My legs and arms are long and lean in comparisson to my middle. Most of my body fat accumulates in my back and stomach. I know that with restriction on my caloric intake that will change, but I do want to get a jump start in building muscle in those areas. I'll look on youtube for more compound exercises...but are there any that you personally recommend? Thanks again!
 
Steve said:
Well if it makes you feel any better... I don't ever test my body fat. It's just not practical. I put the majority of my weighting in measurements with the old fashioned tape.

Beyond that, pics are good too.
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That doesnt mean you can get out of giving me an idea of where im at :)

What would be good measurements? what recommendations do you have oh wise master?
 
Compound exercises I like: Squat variations, deadlift variations, chest presses, row variations, overhead pressing, vertical pulling.

is a decent site with vids. I can't facking wait for my site to be released... I'm so sick of passing around shitty exercise vids.

You say you are getting a plate loaded machine. Do you have a link to the product? In general, free weights are the way to go opposed to a machine.

Adjustable dumbbells are great for in-home training.

I'd start with a full body routine 2-3 days per week, and I'd throw some specific suggestions at you but I really think you'd be better suited reading the stickies first.
 
wishes said:
That doesnt mean you can get out of giving me an idea of where im at :)

What would be good measurements? what recommendations do you have oh wise master?
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I say if you're real concerned with bf% find a better testing measure, like hydrostatic weighing. Most universities have it. Few trainers have access.

My opinion is you should just toss it.

I can't tell you what measurements are good for you. What looks good on one might look shitty on another.

I'm not helping you at all, lol.

I'd simply start tracking measurements every two weeks or so, same place, same time, same body segments, etc... and track the trends. Take pictures monthly.
 
re: steve

Steve said:
Compound exercises I like: Squat variations, deadlift variations, chest presses, row variations, overhead pressing, vertical pulling.

Workout Routines & Exercises - New iPod Videos! is a decent site with vids. I can't facking wait for my site to be released... I'm so sick of passing around shitty exercise vids.

You say you are getting a plate loaded machine. Do you have a link to the product? In general, free weights are the way to go opposed to a machine.

Adjustable dumbbells are great for in-home training.

I'd start with a full body routine 2-3 days per week, and I'd throw some specific suggestions at you but I really think you'd be better suited reading the stickies first.
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Hey Steve,
Thanks for the advice. :) I'll get started. When's the release date for your site...count me in!

The weight machine. I'm actually going to pick it up today. :
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I'll have to wait until next month, but I'll get some adjustable dumbells. I am so ready to do what I gotta do! I've waited waaay too long.
 
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